Cool, I have workplace stress and complete fatigue from sitting in an office dealing with bullshit all day and I don’t get paid millions fucking around on YouTube and tiktok. You can’t pause any job. Stfu
If your audience will disappear because you go away for 5 minutes you were probably not providing anything of value in the first place
If your “job” is to convince brainless zoomers to eat tide pods or convince them to try DIY plastic surgery with hammers, maybe burning out isn’t a bad thing. Maybe we’re just seeing nature healing itself.
Bonesmashing?! Just when I thought people couldn’t get any stupider.
You get this a joke?
Children were never eating tide pods either.
Children were never eating tide pods either
Yes they were. Because some people really are that dumb.
The same year, nearly 220 teens were reportedly exposed, and about 25 percent of those cases were intentional, according to data from the American Association of Poison Control Centers.
So far in 2018, there have been 37 reported cases among teenagers — half of them intentional, according to the data.
And that’s just reported numbers for teenagers. I can almost guarantee you the number of idiots that ate one and didn’t know how to call poison control is much higher.
Out of tens of millions of children, that’s nothing. It was pure fear mongering
It’s both fear mongering and a problem. I imagine there are a lot more unreported cases, since teens are especially unlikely to ask for help with something like this. On the other hand, it was used as an excuse to attack TikTok, which is stupid because the similar things happen on other platforms and happened before everyone was on social media. Kids will do stupid things as long as peer pressure is a thing.
Your TikTok addiction may have turned you into a psychopath. “Kids die all the time, what’s the big deal?”
The gun rights crowd has better arguments about why their hobby is more important than kids dying.
? I’ve never used TikTok…
But yes, kids die all the time for various reasons. When talking about individual causes, it’s important to look at the impact on trends. Are more kids dying due to TikTok, or is TikTok merely replacing another cause?
Obviously no death is acceptable, but death will happen. The role of public policy isn’t to prevent all death, but to address the bulk of it with the least invasive policy possible.
Did you see the part where only half of those ingestions were intentional?
You would be freaking out about rainbow parties and snap bracelets in the 90s.
I could support a few of these
How does one unintentionally eat a tide pod? So you tell the guy when you’re checking in at the ER “Homie and I were just playing catch with a tide pod and I was yelling at cousin Mabel to get off the dang roof and it just dropped into my mouth and I swallowed. It was a one in a million shot doc. One in a million.”
More likely they did it intentionally and didn’t want to admit to it to avoid embarrassment. That or one of their dumb buddies thought it’d be funny based on some Tiktok they saw so they dropped one into someone’s bowl of Doritos.
Either way all I was doing was correcting a false statement you made about children never eating tide pods. Because they surely did.
Ngl my partner put a dishwasher pod on the counter the other day and I genuinely thought it was candy for an uncomfortably long second or so.
I feel that, looks like they might taste like one of those carnival lollipops :>
Title of your link:
Liquid Laundry Detergent Pods Pose Lethal Risk for Adults With Dementia
For all those teenagers with dementia XD
Speaking of rainbow parties - that was actually a great idea. How come we never do that?
Well maybe they weren’t at first. Just like flat earthers and bird aren’t real started as jokes. People started seeing and acting. My niblings had a kid in their high school
eattasted and spit out a tide pod. They ended up going home early.Like all horrible male “beauty trends” it comes from looksmaxxing forums where it was a joke but the people were highly autistic and actually did it. The same thing happens when it gets to tiktok. A bunch of people post about it knowing its a joke and people who struggle to understand its a joke get sucked in.
To “normal” people its like yeah obviously this is stupid, but to someone whos extremely socially inept they view it as a real path to looking like that. I’ve not met someone who has done this one exactly but ive met people who have done insanely destructive things because of what they saw on the internet.
Well you can’t stop everyone from being foolish. Before this they copied stuff on tv.
Thats true
You don’t understand, kids are really summoning satan with their dungeons and dragons books, and every grown up should be very threatened about it!
Just go hide back under your rock. Next thing you’ll say is that kids are absolutely safe minded individuals that stop and think about their safety and the safety of others when see they something that intrigues them.
Bro - I was literally a fucking teacher during the peak of that moral panic. I spend more time every day with teenagers than half of you on this thread do. Every kid knew it was a fucking joke. A handful of children actually did it on purpose, and like every moral outrage/hysteria it became “teens are doing this wild crazy thing!”
Yes, teenagers do dumb fucking shit all of the time. It’s not the shit the media picks up on for the viral clicks.
The real shit teens are actually doing is vaping shady carts and creating massive group chats to bully each other with naked pictures. But that doesn’t sell the same kinds of ad impressions as “there’s a stupid TikTok video that when viral so we are going to assume this is a massive regular thing that hundreds of children are doing.” Talking about those issues involves parents having to, you know, parent but instead it’s gotta be about stupid shit.
The real “hiding under a rock” is being distracted by the newest stupid TikTok video instead of dealing with the things teenagers actually do.
The point of the thread was for the influencers to fucking go and get a real job because they’re just rotting brains anyway. It started with tide pods and it’s grown into the exact thing you just stated. All that manosphere bullshit for example. You don’t think all those podcasts, Twitch, and whatever the fuck else today’s teenagers could get their hands on had any influence whatsoever from from all these dipshit people? We were all shitty teenagers so get off that “BRO I WAS A FUCKING TEACHER” high horse. It’s just worse now because they’re constantly bombarded by stupid fucking ideas. Welcome to the failure of the education system! Sorry you had to eat shit daily to find out I guess!
first of all these people are basicly making others buy crap they dont really want. second: this is just an article about young workers, who work too much and cant seperate their private life from worklife. could have been an insightful newspiece if it werent for guardian and the usual forced buzzwords.
Won’t someone think of the poor influencers!? Sorry, “creators”. Just like Van Gogh and Stanley Kubrick.
If someone calls themselves an “influencer“ I immediately want to punch them in the face.
I heard someone talking about a content creator they watch, and how that creator basically can’t take a vacation without losing tons of followers and potentially a major chunk of their income.
A lot of creators will have a number of videos created ahead of time, so they can go on holiday and still have a steady release schedule.
Doesn’t help if you’re a streamer, though. I guess that was a part I left out, whoops -_-
Yeah, that’s a whole different world.
Larger streamers post reruns.
Don’t they just take working vacations?
Yep, this exactly. They can never clock out at the end of the day. It isn’t 8 hours of work and you’re done. You’re having to constantly try to innovate. Make tons of content, spend so much time editing, constant filming, constant planning. And if you deviate in your schedule, or upload some content that isn’t interesting, the algorithm punishes you and you may even get people that unsubscribe.
Must be hell when you can’t afford to take a vacation from that content creator life. Can never really “switch off”. Plus the fact that less than 1% actually make it big, and it’s mostly based on luck plus years and years of determination.
It isn’t 8 hours of work and you’re done
That really depends on the type of content. Something like LTT is very much 8 hours and you’re done, except the handful of times when there’s a time crunch (e.g. new hardware launch). Even smaller creators plan out videos in advance and can create a working schedule.
The hardest part is starting out, followed by finding an audience. Once you get the audience, creating a consistent schedule is the easier part, especially once you can start hiring help.
I hear this all the time but I struggle to see how it is true. How many people regularly trawl through their feed looking for creators who haven’t posted in X days and unfollowing them? It would be a minuscule number. I’m pretty darn selective with my follows and I think I’d do this once a year, tops.
I think creators are conflating the everyday ups and downs of follower counts on their platform(s) as being something more. And I think the platforms themselves are encouraging this mentality because they need fresh content.
As OP specified in another reply, they were talking about streamers specifically. And with them, big chunk of the income comes from Twitch subscribers, which is a monthly paid subscription. If you are willing to pay someone for it, you’ll notice pretty much immediately if they miss their scheduled stream and cancel it.
For many other platforms what you said is true, I’m way more likely to unsubscribe from someone when they post a video and remind me I’m still subbed than when they take a break and fade out of my feed.
This seems like a flaw in the design of the platform…
if someone i follow posts a bad video, i remove them from the ‘People I Like’ list and add them to the other list
OK, Santa.
Just because you do something a certain way doesn’t mean everyone does. A huge chunk of these peoples income comes from the random people who find their videos or streams because of the “algorithm”. Not from their regular viewers. Those regular viewers allow for a certain amount of steadiness, but they’re also more likely to watch videos at a later time rather than right when they’re uploaded. Which is a significant drop in revenue for each view.
Lol
I currently scrub toilets for a living while I’m back at school for a mid-life career change. I work ten hours tonight, my feet are still a bit sore from my shift two days ago.
Suck it up, buttercup, get a real job. I’m not sharing all of this to sound like I’m better, I’m sharing this to show what a significant chunk of people do for a living, Joe Jobs.
Being a social media influencer isn’t a job for most people, it’s a vanity hobby.
You are better.
No I’m not, walking down that path leads to arrogance and unearned pride. I just live in reality, instead of falling prey to the lies of false riches in the social media popularity contest.
Seek for your own answers and Know Thyself. Please, all of you that are always on social media. Withdraw, do not fall prey to the Siren’s Tale of the Glory of Achilles. Instead, seek a good life, one that is quiet, and belongs to you.
Do not become a false god, you cannot live up to that burden.
This is the most boomer take I’ve ever seen on this website. And that includes what few conservatives have filtered in.
yeah I’m pretty shocked that a socialist website would value labor over entertainment like that
Socialism is about more than unions, that’s just the most obvious aspect in a heavily capitalist society. It’s about the sharing of burdens, which includes more than physical labor.
Does social media create a physical product? Remember, computers need engineers to repair them and electricians to keep the power on. Physical infrastructure.
May I ask what your age range is, and what you do for a living, as well as how much income you make?
By that metric do authors or poets or actors create a physical product? Do computer programers? Since the death of physical media, books and art are now far more frequently digital than paper or canvas. Applications and software is 100% digital. Newspapers are dead, so journalists don’t create a physical product. Is your argument that only physical labor producing physical things is “real” work?
No, there is value in artistic expression and other intangibles. Our ideas are what give the tangibles scope.
What I AM saying is that people seem to think that social media influencers are more important than farmers or gas station attendants or grocers. No they are not. Most aren’t creating anything more than a hobby level. That’s okay if that’s what you want to do with your time, just don’t expect sympathy from those who feed you, keep your lights on, and ensure the comfort of all.
Why won’t you feel sympathy for someone who’s hurting? Why do you feel that someone needs to fall into a very narrow category to be “worth your time”?
Just because someone doesn’t fall into your narrow view of what’s worthwhile doesn’t mean they’re not worth basic human compassion.
Of course they are worth compassion. I just don’t understand their desire to be the center of attention, when all the acclaim of the crowd doesn’t truly bring individual satisfaction.
Fame is fickle and not worth chasing. Achilles found that out the hard way.
I just don’t understand their desire to be the center of attention
There is that aspect of it, but there’s also the aspect of writing your own destiny, about creating something you care about instead of just being a nameless cog in an industrial machine putting out consumerist crap day in and day out. Why is the latter more admirable to you than the former?
It doesn’t come across as you appreciating value in artistic expression and other intangibles when you say “suck it up and get a real job”. That may not have been your intention, but it can definitely be read that way. I think that is the “boomer” people have commented on.
I don’t think there are really that many people who think social media creators or better than farmers or essential services personnel, and those that do are completely out of touch, but there are plenty of people who see alternative media creators as less than any other job. I personally think A-list actors, celebrities and sports professionals are no better than grocery store worker or warehouse person, but I won’t deny they work just as hard in different ways.
My point is that no matter what, if you have success at something, there’s going to be blood, sweat and tears involved. Sisyphus doesn’t complain about his boulder for cheating Death, why should they? It’s pointless.
Just keeping up with the boomer takes…
Something doesn’t need to be a physical product to hold tangible value.
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Where did I say that social media creates no value whatsoever? I’m just saying that without those who work in physical reality, creating tangibles with tangible things, make the mental edifices possible.
Also, you didn’t choose to share your profession with us. It makes me think that you’re attempting to create a social media presence of your own. Trust me, it’s pointless. I had a facebook fan page with 150-175 people on it. All foolish vanity, nothing more.
To win the acclaim of the mob is what the worst of us amongst human beings do. Do you want to be a politician in terms of expression?
Also, you didn’t choose to share your profession with us. It makes me think that you’re attempting to create a social media presence of your own.
Either that or I don’t think value is only subjective to what you do for a living. That my opinion is somehow less valuable because I don’t fall into a specific field you perceive as valuable.
I’m just saying that without those who work in physical reality, creating tangibles with tangible things, make the mental edifices possible.
And often those non-tangible things help to give those who make the tangible things the willpower to go on. It’s not a one way street, where value is only created by those who create tangible goods and stolen by the intangible. That’s a very pessimistic, if not “holier-than-thou” perspective. As though anyone who doesn’t do what you respect isn’t worth as much as someone who does.
Like I said, a very boomer attitude.
Who did you vote for?
Who did you?
I’m so glad I was young before this stupid reality happened. I have a regular job and no desire for internet fame.
I asked my younger family members what they want to be when they grow up, and being a YouTuber was at the top of the list. I hate this so much.
So no follow-up questions? “What content are you gonna make? How are you gonna promote it? Any backup plans?”
You can’t turn off any job. We all are burning out in this bitch. At least you’re sitting at home making videos.
I imagine that being a content creator as a full-time job is much more difficult than most people realize. Also, the modern work environment is a hellscape, and I can’t blame people who want to avoid it. Still, it’s risky as hell - if the platform you rely on changes its compensation policies, you are screwed, and have even less legal protection/recourse than a McDonalds employee.
I wouldn’t expect a responsible person to take on that level of risk without a safety net. If you’re young and childless, then taking that risk is your call, and it’s unfair for me to judge you. If you’re relying on social media to pay the mortgage for your child’s home, though, you’d better have a backup plan and keep it ready.
I think they should stop.
Firstly, let’s call them what they are, hucksters.
Secondly, I cannot think of anything I give a shit less about than their burnout at making internet videos of themselves.
If you’ve talked yourself into a world where you must be on social media, you are absolutely fucked. Get out. now.
only use things with pause buttons!
The responses in this thread are sick. So much vitriol for members of your own class who are just trying to make a living doing what they love and creating things.
I dont give a fuck about their burnout lol. if they love it so much why are they whining about doing it?
I’m in health care, you think illness has a pause button? I chose this, they chose theirs.
in the early days of the internet, I’m talking GeoCities days, I started what would be called a podcast about gaming. I recorded with windows sound recorder and a shitty Logitech desktop mic and then ran it through RealAudio to compress it to a downloadable format.
I shared it with communities online like IRC and BBS’s.
I got shit on so fucking much that I quit after my 6th cast. I received so much hate that I honestly thought of self harm.
now, it wasn’t right that it happened. but, it happened decades ago before podcasting, live streaming, YouTube, content creators, and influencers were a “thing”. my point is, it is a danger of creating anything for the world. if you don’t have the skin for it, the world will eat you alive, so get over it.
