• Redrangutang@discuss.online
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    I like a lot of JPs stuff l. He intruduced me to a lot of concepts but ironically i must warn that his content really is for the thinking man in the sense that you need to stay vigilant to spot the cintradictions with reality. Cleaning your room doesnt fix dating or the job market for instance and sometimes those realities that go beyond our own self discipline and talent really are overwhelming.

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      McDonalds marketing is getting pretty aggressive if they’re sending their cashiers to Wendy’s…

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        The cashier is working undercover in order to steal the krappy patty’s secret formula.

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          “What did you find out, Steve? Did you get the formula?”

          “Yeah, commercials, we just need more than the other guys. I don’t think our food matters, like, at all.”

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    This is only missing JP coming up with a completely deranged definition of what fries are that he demands the cashier adheres to (I don’t think the vodka applies, that’s more making fun of the cashier). And also him entirely dodging the question of whether he likes fries, stating that people have discussed whether he likes fries but he refuses to reveal it.

    • HSR🏴‍☠️@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Obviously fries represent the western civilization. Frying oil is the chaos dragon of woke left that means to destroy the fries, but will instead transform them into something even more beautiful, an entity of culinary perfection. But you would already know that if only you had bought my online course. sob It’s so sublime. sob

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        Employee listening in the background hears the timer for the fries go off. Pulls the basket out from the oil.

        Looks at the fries.

        Looks at the stand for them to drain.

        Looks at Jordan Peterson.

        Looks at the fries.

        Shoves their own face into the hot oil to escape the sound of JP’s voice.

  • Frenchfryenjoyer (she/her)@lemmings.world
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    Sealioning (source) + whataboutism. A very cheap method of trolling and exhausting the opponent of the argument which relies on the victim being unaware of sealioning and they’re being sealioned. It’s frustrating seeing JP fans think this is proof he’s a genius. it’s like Ben Shapiro, another rightwing “influencer” who constantly speaks fast and gish gallops on purpose and his fans think he’s a genius for that too

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        That, too. For people who don’t know what that is (source)

        The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions that share similarities: one modest and easy to defend (the “motte”) and one much more controversial and harder to defend (the “bailey”).[1] The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, insists that only the more modest position is being advanced.[2][3] Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer may claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte)[1] or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).[4]

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          Thanks for teaching me something new!

          Also your username is very apt for this thread.

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    False inductive reasoning combined with butwhataboutism and sealinoning. All designed to exhaust the opponent and muddy the argument. Conservatives love this form of argument.

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    My dog is an intellectual powerhouse compared to Jordan Peterson fans.

    Lol. I just Googled him and his YouTube channel description reads…

    “Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan B. Peterson for enlightening discourse”

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    Watching him debate those atheists was painful. His debating technique is beyond stupid.

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      1. Make a statement that is at best wildly controversial and at worst blatantly untrue
      2. Redefine the words in that statement to make it vacuously true and completely uninteresting
      3. When challenged, say that you don’t care about common parlance
      4. Everyone loses, because this debate is now pointless and annoying