• Lojcs@piefed.social
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    Couldn’t they frame this without the angry bearded Arab vs smiling white woman?

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        The other person also said they didn’t look angry to them so that could be just me. His eyebrows are angled downward and I think that’s what makes him look upset to me.

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      He doesn’t really look angry to me. And he does have a beard and is Arab so those seem like things that will be in every picture of him.

      I’m sure hos photo is from the wanted list and hers is from her bio somewhere, but the juxtaposition just serves to magnify the point.

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        This is not an image that just comes up if you search him. Oop chose to have this image instead of him in a suit with a kept beard.

        Edit: also amplify which fucking point, that people with messy facial hair in headscarves are terrorists?

        Edit 2: look at my bias with the messy part, sub in ‘longer’

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          I think they were attempting to imply he was more dangerous than her and more deserving of being on the list. Its probably true, but tactically chosen pictures make the differences between them more extreme, less than a mug shot of her and a wedding photo of him would, as an example.

          I am surprised they didn’t find the classic terrorist photo (holding a weapon) they usually seek out for these headlines.

          Compared to what I usually see, this is pretty mild.

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      When I’ve let my mustache grow in I’ve been told I exuded porn star energy.

      I shaved it off immediately. I’m NOT my father!

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        I mean, that guy is a real literal terrorist. Who was he doing terrorism on behalf of? Please don’t probe that too deeply.

        Just, you know… keep this in mind.

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        But the message is that we should be stereotyping the guy on the left because he’s more dangerous, and not the lady on the right.

        And that’s wrong.

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          we should be stereotyping the guy on the left because he’s more dangerous

          He is more dangerous, if you’re a Christian, Alawite, Shia or Druze. Just not if you’re an Israeli.

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            I feel like we are having a conversation so I won’t just ignore, but I don’t understand at all what you mean by this.

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                  This is a perfect example of how the empire disguises spies, commits terrorist acts with them, launches a racist propaganda campaign against a people using their spy as example, and then it turns out to be their own guy.

                  This is not a stereotype. It’s literally the guy.

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    Sanctioning albanese is an abomination.

    it’s not true to say al jolani was the founder of al qaeda. He was a part of jabhat al nusra which was affiliated with al qaeda. They split over disagreements and actually wiped al qaeda from Syria.

    Whether he’s actually a terrorist is hard to say because the US designates any group it doesnt like as that.

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      Also, sometimes “terrorists” give up their armed struggle. That’s something that should be encouraged. If you go with the idea of “once a terrorist, always a terrorist” then there’s no incentive for so-called “terrorists” to ever change their ways.

      And, from a more practical matter, he’s in charge of Syria now. If the international community wants Syrians to be free, happy and healthy they have to try to work with him. If they cut off all aid to Syria and refuse to work with him, then the only people who will work with him are all the various bad actors of the region. They shouldn’t necessarily fully trust him, but they should give him an opportunity to show he has the best interests of the Syrian people at heart.

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        These mental gymnastics that selectively apply to very few specific instances to prop up US interest is always wild.

        The Nazis gave up their arms too, why did the Nuremberg trials happened then? Why even have international laws against war crimes when you can just say what the west wants to hear and get off scot free. This is exactly the plan with Netanyahu too.

        You people are despicable ghouls that only concern troll with the moral high ground when it fits your narrative.

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          So, it’s propping up US interests to help Syrians avoid hunger? Why is it that you think I care about US interests anyhow?

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      They split over disagreements

      “Listen, are we proxies of the CIA or not, guys?”

      Whether he’s actually a terrorist is hard to say

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_al-Sharaa#War_crimes_of_al-Nusra_(2012–2016)

      Under al-Shara’a’s leadership, al-Nusra Front and Jabhat Fateh al-Sham perpetrated a series of war crimes, suicide bombings, forced conversions, ethnic cleansing and sectarian massacres against Syria’s Christian, Alawite, Shia and Druze minorities. These included the January 2012 al-Midan bombing, which killed 26 people and wounded 63.

      🤔

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        I’m sure he was backed by the CIA, people forget Hamas was backed by Israel. Doesn’t mean Hamas is an Israel asset. The CIA like many others will play the dirty game of backing groups that they dont like if there is some strategy to it. Just like they did with the Taliban originally to fight the Soviets.

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          people forget Hamas was backed by Israel. Doesn’t mean Hamas is an Israel asset

          It’s the age old “backing moderate rebels” strategy. Divide and conquer. Netanyahu armed Hamas to undermine The Palestinian Authority, then turned them into a Boogeyman the moment they had an electoral win.

          Hamas was an “asset” in the sense that it gave Israelis an excuse to continue ethically cleansing Gaza.

          Just like they did with the Taliban originally to fight the Soviets.

          So easy for westerners to ignore how the fundamental local appeal of the Taliban was to break the hold of the opium cartels (which the CIA/MI6 loved).

          As soon as the US toppled Mullah Omar’s government, their allies in the drug trade rushed back in to rebuild the old opium trade. When they were finally pushed out 20 years later, the opium traffickers were pushed out with them.

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    Guy on the left is an (ostensible) ally of Israel

    Woman on the right is not.

    Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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      He cut off Iran’s supply to Hasbulla in Lebanon, cut off Iran’s reach to Israel, gave Israel extra strategic lands, let Israel destroy all previous regime’s Russian/Iranian military equipments and now he has announced normalizing relations with Israel.

      Then US immediately rewarded him with investments and aid contracts from the other dictatorship gulf countries, who are good dictatorships btw they say USA Good. They invest in the US, ONLY allowed to buy US defense contracts, tie their currencies to the US dollar ONLY and basically keep all their country resources under the exploitation of the US for the mere beautiful American/Western-values sponsored cost of emprovishing and beheading their citziens every fucking month for talking on twitterz and depriving them of human rights :D

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    ISIS are the good guys now.

    We have always been at war with the UN Special Rapporteur.

    War is Peace.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    asside, checked ADL, they treat her as if she’s Hitler incarnate for talking truth, then checked Elon Musk’s page on the ADL, practically nothing, no mention of his Hitler salutes, or that his AI is promoting Hitler and attacking jews.

    ADL is a fucking joke

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    I mean ISIS and Al Qaeda didn’t attack Israel once. I wonder who funds them. :-)

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    Al-Sharaa is actually kind of an ok guy. I don’t want to say that with complete conviction because unfortunately things haven’t gone well for Syrians for a long time and power vacuums can be dangerous when filled. That said, he seems to actually want to help his people, seems open to fair agreements and some more social responsible rules. I’m not going to speak on the woman as I have no idea, but peace with the Middle East and the US is a positive thing. Understanding them and being in a mutually respecting relationship will only serve us both well. I just hope that it ends up also being truly positive for all Syrians. They deserve peace and freedom after decades of oppression.

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        This isn’t good evidence. Netanyahu and israel backed and sent aid and support to Hamas for a long time because they want that opposition to use it as an excuse to do whatever.

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        Ah, that’s why Israel bombed the fuck out of his military in day one! Because he’s their agent! And Assad wasn’t, because they never bombed him. Riiight!

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      His thugs have been massacring Christians and other minorities. Syria is a multi confessional state and the Sunni islamofascists now in charge are putting an end to that.

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        There’s been some incidents which are outliers. If they wanted to massacre it would be a lot worse. Al jolani has mentioned they will bring those to justice, we will see if he fulfills this promise.

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      Calling Iranians occupiers. This level of projection can only come from one type of people.

      Not going to bother to respond to the rest of the falsehood in your comment.

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        I am Iranian and the IRGC are terrorist occupiers. Educate yourself on how violent the regime is against their own people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_executions_in_Iran and the recent women life freedom protests in Iran https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman,_Life,_Freedom that led the IRGC to hang nearly 1500 people.

        The tweet author in the OP is a mouthpiece for the regime

        Additionally I was not saying the author is wrong in this instance, a broken clock is right twice a day, however giving the author publicity is what I take issue with.

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          How are they occupiers when they’re at least as Iranian as you? Are they occupying themselves? And where is this 1,500 number coming from? Because it doesn’t seem to be coming from Wikipedia. The Western imperialist puppet regime installed after the CIA-led coup was no angel, either. Do want a repeat of that? Because they’ll come in and 1) take the oil and 2) set Iran up for a proxy war with Russia and/or China, just as they did with Ukraine.

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          Educate yourself on how violent the regime is

          Calmly explaining how the Apache and Comanche tribes colonized the Mountain West until it was liberated by the anti-imperialist insurgency of General William Tecumseh Sherman

          The tweet author in the OP is a mouthpiece for the regime

          Thanks, for the catch, bro. Around here, we only believe news from sources we can trust, like Voice of America and The Times of Israel.

          Additionally I was not saying the author is wrong

          🧐

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            You can be anti Israel and anti Islamic Republic you know. nuance

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              Sure. You can be a full on misanthrope. Just insist you hate everyone and pray for their collective grisly annihilation.

              That appears to be the beating heart of the modern MAGA movement.