On Monday, just one day after the Republican Party staged a Horst Wessel-style memorial for Charlie Kirk in Glendale, Arizona, President Donald Trump signed an executive order designating “antifa” a “domestic terrorist organization.”
The order claims that antifa is a “militarist, anarchist enterprise” that uses “illegal means to organize and execute a campaign of violence and terrorism nationwide.”
Antifa, as even FBI Director Christopher Wray was forced to admit in a September 2020 congressional hearing, is not an organization but a broad current of opposition to fascism. “Antifa is an ideology, not an organization,” said Wray, who also testified that the bureau had no data showing any lethal violence committed by the organization.
Since antifa as a formal organization does not exist, Trump’s executive order amounts to a blanket authorization to brand political dissent and opposition to his fascist regime as “terrorism.”
Looks like we’re all terrorists.
Everyone arm up.
CPAC is finally correct now!
I armed up back in 2018. Not sure why anyone else wouldn’t have by now. Maybe just extreme naivete.
Suicidal tendencies, mostly. As much as I wish I could buy a gun, I’d probably be most likely to turn it towards myself.
But there are so many billionaires just loitering about.
He signed an executive order making the entire US army oppose him.
Ima stay outa this now.
The far right which has taken over ICE and the Federal government under Trump is terrorizing many, many people in this country. JD Vance, Noem, and Trump know it (the cruelty is the point) and yet all cast any criticism of this fact as “terrorist rhetoric.” That kind of table-turning projection is foundational in the authoritarian playbook.
But what I don’t understand is - why does the American public discourse seem to tolerate all these tactics?why does the American public discourse seem to tolerate all these tactics?
Because most people aren’t very smart and will only care about something once it directly affects them, which is too late.
Which is why this is probably going to get a whole lot worse and everyone that is smart should be preparing themselves for that.
The right has complete control of the media outrage apparatus.
Because allowing these tactics let’s them “hurt the people he needs to be hurting.” They’re authoritarian themselves.
Oops, guess I’m a terrorist now.
Does this mean that Trump and his followers are fascists?
I am a terrorist now I guess.
If you’re a terrorist to a fascist regime, you’re one of the good guys.
The next big protest is going to be interesting for sure…
October 18th.
We need everyone that can walk & hold a sign to turn out.
I prefer the term freedom fighter.
It’s gonna be like nailing jelly to a wall.
Come on Trump, you can do better. Here in The Netherlands the government has signed a motion banning antifa already last week! Try to keep up, will ya? /s
It’s so unfortunate that journalism is dead, otherwise we could’ve had some interesting discussions on this topic. For instance, I would like really like to know what would happen if a WWII veteran would speak out against fascism. Will we (The Netherlands or in this case the US) lock that person up?
One can be anti fascist whilst not being a member of Antifa. Don’t forget people, these are the dumbest people in the world running this show.
Yeah but the more you read up on the Nazis the more you find out they were pretty dumb too. Still killed millions of people.
I think conflating Antifa with anyone they choose is exactly the objective.
Yup, it’s just a new method to be able to kidnap people off the streets. First it was “they were an immigrant” and then “they looked like an immigrant”. And now it has progressed to “they looked like a domestic enemy of the state”.
I am NOT a member!
I would NEVER be a member of any club that would have someone like ME as a member.
- Groucho Marx, 1959
True, but they have yet to utilize their new terrorist distinction on me, an anti-fascist, so I think the general layperson is safe atm
“They haven’t come for me yet, so we’re still safe” is not very good logic under a fascist regime.
You’re safe until you’re not, at which point, nobody will know because you’ve been disappeared.
So yes, we can hear from the people who we can still hear from. True equals true.
I would argue there is no organization known as “antifa”. Certainly nothing with structure or presence like tpusa or the proud boys, ya know the organization that terrorized the seat of our nation 5 years ago…
One can be anti fascist whilst not being a member of Antifa.
How does one become a “member” of antifa?
Annoy Trump and he’ll declare you one.
Gotta get recruited by George Soros.
Attend the planning meetings of any anti-fascist group that uses ‘antifa’ in their name, of which there are many; in my experience the ‘membership’ is almost identical to the ‘membership’ of the local Anarchist Book Fair planning committee.
Or show up to an anti-fascist rally, even as a bystander, get arrested for nothing, and now your name is on a ‘known members’ list in some pig’s office :P
explain how so? consider that there is no way to “be” a member of a group that does not exist in that manner. being of the cohort of people who are antifascist is not the same as being a “member.” I suppose we are saying the same thing. :)
So, so dumb that I can fully imagine a scenario like this playing out amongst the orange knobhead and his staff on the daily
Remember this moment? He’s probably right
Trump is leaving office in a casket tbh. There’s even a decent chance it happens before his term is up.
I’ll be mildly surprised if he sees 2026.
In the last 30 years, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) has documented only one killing committed by an alleged antifa supporter. On August 29, 2020, Michael Reinoehl shot and killed fascist Aaron “Jay” Danielson, a member of Patriot Prayer, during a protest in Portland, Oregon. On social media following the killing, Trump encouraged police forces to kill Reinoehl. “Do your job, and do it fast. Everybody knows who this thug is,” Trump said. Reinoehl was murdered by police and federal agents on September 3, 2020.
While there have been virtually no documented killings committed by alleged antifa members, there have been hundreds of murders and tens of thousands of assaults committed by self-declared fascists, antisemites, far-right militia elements and white supremacists over the last 30 years.
Since that name is now burned, maybe we could start a new organization to fight fascism. And to let the world know that we’ve reached a point of fascism we can’t turn back from, we can call it Turning Point.
It’d be fun to let them wrestle with calling brand Turning Point a terrorist group.
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