Couldn’t happen to a nicer company
Reddit banned me today for making a joke that the patch title for Guild Wars 2 could match real life events.
What is the patch name? The Mad King and his Lunatic Court.
Permanently banned for what? Harassment.
Not how I expected GW2 to come up on Lemmy… But here we are hahaha
Well… no surprising since we ought to have the molengrad.
I wish I could say I’m shocked. That site has fallen off so hard it’s crazy. The censorship has gone mad. It’s the main reason I’m here.
Hopefully the mods on lemmy don’t go power hungry
A few have. But when it happens people just start frequenting alternative communities. The good karma flows like water through the easiest path. So when an admin or a mod says they find the term bro offensive, people just unsub and find a better community.
its pretty hard to get power mods here, since you isolate and sequester them by defederating, or block thier content. on reddit, you can get subreddit banned(mods), and sitewide banned(admins)
Must be the AI profiling system and how it flags anyone even remotely talking about POTUS.
im not surprised if the filters is looking for any “anti-trump” comments, they probably will ignore certain bots and not users.
Insult to the king, off with your head!
/s
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
I don’t care about their stock value but the situation fells so weird. So chatgpt refers to reddit less, and that makes reddit stock value fall. This really shows how much of the share value is pure hype and how much of “the economy” is pure manupulation of numbers instead of actual value.
The bubble bursts when one of them can’t make their monthly payment.
It’s the dot com bubble all over again
Makes me think I should sell all my retirement stocks and stick it in bonds until the bottom falls out from under Nvidia
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How decoupled stocks are from reality or value. It’s bizarre.
Tesla is “larger” than all other car companies combined when they’re virtually always “delayed” on actually shipping product. We live in bizarro world. Your livelihood is a single cell in a giant spreadsheet full of completely made-up numbers.
Tesla sells itself as a technology innovation company, but it sells hype.
The thing that baffles me on that one is that it doesn’t stand up on its own terms. None of Tesla’s tech in 2025 is ahead of its competitors, and they’ve become so toxic as a brand that most top tier engineers don’t even want to work there.
The market can stay fascist longer then you can stay solvent.
meme stocks.
That’s actually quite easy to explain. Reddits entire monetary value (or at least a very large portion) depends on how relevant it is as platform to mine user interactions - to use as training material for AI.
Reddit getting references less is a sign that the models, or the owning companies, value reddit data less compared to before.
You just described most tech stocks.
As Cory Doctrow explains:
the fundamental duty of every CEO of every high-growth tech company: explaining how his company will continue to grow. These growth stories are key, because growth stocks trade at a huge premium relative to the stocks of “mature” companies.
The fact that any AI company thought to train their LLM on the answers of Reddit users speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding of their own product (IMO)
LLMs aren’t programmed to give you the correct answer. They’re programmed to give you the most pervasive/popular answer on the assumption that most of the time that will also happen to be the right one.
So when you’re getting your knowledge base from random jackasses on Reddit, where a good faith question like “What’s the best way to get get gum out of my childs hair” get’s two two good faith answers, and then a few dozen smart-ass answers that gets lots of replies and upvotes because they’re funny. Guess which one your LLM is going to use.
People (and apparently even the creators themselves) think that an LLM is actually cognizent enough to be able to weed this out logically. But it can’t. It’s not an intelligence…it’s a knowlege agreggator. And as with any aggregator, the same rule applies
garbage in, garbage out
Thats why I have stopped calling it ai. Its a dumbass buzzword just like cloud, that tech bros like to use but cant explain (or blockchain).
Its llms, and image generators/OCR (which has been around for decades), Using complex markov chains and a fuck ton of graphics cards. NOT AI. NOT AI.
I use the term “inference machine”
It is AI, along with a bunch of optimization algorithms, statistical decision trees (probably used in adaptive AI in games), etc. AI is a field in computer science that includes a ton of things many wouldn’t consider AI.
Basically, if the solution doesn’t come from direct commands but instead comes from some form of learning process, it’s probably AI.
It’s not “general AI”, but it is in the field of AI.
I’ve had to start calling it AI because most people don’t know what LLMs are, and noone cares to go through the explanation, including myself.
I’m afraid that, as these things go, AI has gained a new meaning by popular use, rather than the original meaning of the acronym.
No point fighting it anymore.Maybe we just need to adjust and start saying GAI (generative ai). It has a nice ring to it too.
If people are so dumb they dont even know what an llm is, they have no business using any “ai” products. Too bad we cant ban dumb people from using tech that will make them dumber.
It’s always been like that, even since the 1950s…
The main thing that AI has shown, is how much bullshit we subconsciously filter through every day without much effort. (Although clearly some people struggle a lot more with distinguishing between bullshit and fact, considering how much politicized nonsense has taken hold.)
Exactly that.
If I were to google how to get gum out of my child’s hair and then be directed to that same reddit post. I’d read through it and be pretty sure which were jokes and which were serious; we make such distinctions, as you say, every day without much effort.
LLMs simply don’t have that ability. And the number of average people who just don’t get that is mind-boggling to me.
I also find it weirdly dystopian that, if you sum that up, it kind of makes it sound like in order for an LLM to make the next step towards A.I. It needs a sense of humour. It needs the ability to weed through when the information it’s digging from is serious, or just random jack-asses on the internet.
Which is turning it into a very very Star Trek problem.
What it needs most of all, is a fairly complete intuitive model of how the world works. LLMs only have book knowledge. They have no body, perception or experience. I think that’s incredibly limiting.
“How do I parallel park a car?”
AI Overview: “git gud”
Technically correct
Usually the third/fifth comment down is correct while the top 4 are jokes
Good. Fuck u/Spez.
Keep in mind if the Reddit stock price fell too much some hedge fund vulture would buy up a majority of the stock and then turn it into Nazi town.
Even better then. That’s how the mass migration from twitter happened.
Happy cake day
Isn’t it already basically Nazi town?
It is more disaffected people than nazis. At least the places I was at there. The site wide moderation is pretty fucked in favor of powerful interests, including Nazis however. They like to chase off real people that are driving engagement in favor of the legions of influence agents with their bot accounts.
Right, and if the moderation allows Nazi ideology to run rampant, you have a Nazi town. Especially when it’s all mostly bots spewing Nazi talking points anyway.
Refusing to fight hate speech is tantamount to supporting it.
Nazi cucks at the moment.
Just realized I was posting a reddit habit on a lemmy thread about reddit…
Oh my god I somehow forgot that Reddit IPO8ng means I get to read stories like this.
Oh no, the world’s most poorly managed and funded corporate social media website’s with a publically traded stock is tanking, oh nooooo!
Ahahahah!
This is certainly part of OpenAI’s plan, and a warning shot to other user content-driven sites. An extortion play, if you will, which is business as usual now for fucks sake.
reddit is all cahoots with OPEN AI/googles own AI. im not surprised, its probably what led to thier massive ban waves, since they are using AI to overmoderate the whole site(indiscriminate bannings) they sold thier souls to 2 DEVILS.
News about short term falls are just click bait. Just look at Tesla
Tesla stock ups and downs seem like someone is literally gaming the system.
That’s because he is.
the fact that neither Musk nor none of his cronies ever get comeuppance for that tells you everything you need to know about the “fairness” of the “system”.
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That’s what pandering to the bigger techbros spez gets.
Being there stopped being fun ever since the shits started running a massive profile-and-purge program powered by fucking AI, as even casually mentioning violence against right-wingers or POTUS and his merry chucklefucks gets your account flagged for banning. That’s why there’s now a chilling effect.
Yeah, and it aged hard like milk.
All my accounts were banned except one, because I used a different email address for that one. Their “AI” isn’t as advanced as they want you to think. They literally just track you by email and IP.
Their profiling system is based on content in the form of posts and comments, and they used AI to build it up in addition to user-submitted reports determining one’s character – and overall ideological alignment. Mods and admins would then use that information to determine if you are a candidate for banning.
Sounds right, tbh. Source?
mines was the same, until April the final account got banned. I heard early on in the year, that when it gives you the message “your account has been suspended for suspicious activity, change your password”, when i did that the ban was lifted. they fixed that later on. im guessing its thier way of asking for your password to fish out a pattern to ban you with(like fingerprinting,browser, desktop specs.
I wonder why people on worldnews are not banned. 🤔
israeli propaganda, as long as your pro-israeli or anti-russian you are free. last i recieved a 7day ban for critcizing benajamin as the instigator of the war.
I got my reddit ban for replying to someone in world news. Their comment was saying spain should declare war on israel. I forget why, this before the flotilla though.
I got banned for saying that was unlikely as israel is a nuclear power.
you dont even have to mention anything you can just get banned for creating a new account, or firing up an years old account, since they will consider those as bots. it happens randomly though. so much so, the shadowban sub had so many of these bans because they got banned for little reason.(besides the one that have multiple accounts get shadowbanned).
they started limiting the amount of time the shadowban questions stay open to silence any discussion of it.
heh I wonder if all the “old” content getting messed with and/or removed is causing issues with the algorithm/scraper.
For unauthorized scrapers? Definitely
For paid API usage? That tends to not be public for obvious reasons but, allegedly, people have, allegedly, done tests and found “deleted” content in the results.
Ive heard the same but I haven’t seen real evidence anywhere, so im skeptical. But yes I agree, if they CAN get that data, it means the training data is better-ish…
But we are still on this site for a reason :)
I mean… if the reason you left is because you didn’t want your data scraped then… the fediverse is one of the worst places to go? Because anyone can run a modified lemmy instance to pull everything through the tools specifically designed to do that.
Let alone just scraping websites that don’t have teams of big corporate lawyers.
What kinda of data would be valuable that people leave behind on Reddit? Personal information? Personally I don’t really do that when it comes to commenting, though Reddit probably knows where I live through my unsecured connection online. When it comes to comments or posts on Reddit, it’s not real data anyways because I always lie online.
It’s all relative I guess. I can see why the original GPT’s used the Reddit corpus for training. However I’ve always been a little sceptical about the quality of the training set in any social media given how much it exaggerates the extremes of people’s behaviour.
That’s why I edited everything before deleting it.
I did this too but reddit reverted everything back to how it was and undeleted my account
Looks like me too. Time for a cease and desist.
Version control mother fucker, do you speak it?
But, in all seriousness: That is what they use for the comments. It is why a lot of the mass delete tools were “accidentally” undone during The Exodus. Because it was literally just rolling back. Theoretically there might be a limited number of revisions available but if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you. Because imagine if A Brown Person wrote a message then edited it five times so that Chloe couldn’t alert Jack Bauer to who to torture
I edited everything before deleting it, double-checked it was still deleted periodically, and it all got restored sometime earlier this year.
Good job, Spez, you fuck!
he does love MUSK and his Xitter platform.
Downvoted because this isn’t news. It’s clickbaity nonsense which has no bearing on anything real.
Oh no!
Anyways what’s everyone having for lunch? I’m having bean burritos.
Tomato soup because of the flu… What other kinds of burrito would you recommend besides bean burrito?
Try chorizo, potato and scrambled eggs sometime.
Absolutely kickass breakfast burrito, get real chorizo tho
Try chorizo, potato and scrambled eggs sometime.
That’s awful greasy for someone who has the flu.
Wanted something to look forward to when I recover so it’s actually great!
Fair enough.
Well, I said “try … sometime”, but also… greasy foods are to be particularly avoided when one has a flu?
I… its not that I don’t believe that is a thing that does or could make sense, I’ve just never heard of that before.
Also, you can prepare chorizo, potatoes and scrambled eggs in ways that are not as greasy, sure they are still greasier than many other things, but you don’t have to do it in maybe, typical street vendor or highly rapid restaurant fashion, with grease dripping out like a cheap pizza slice at a bar.
Well, I said “try … sometime”, but also… greasy foods are to be particularly avoided when one has a flu?
https://health.osu.edu/wellness/exercise-and-nutrition/foods-to-avoid-with-flu
Huh. I legitimately did not know that.
Thanks!
Good, hope it crashes.
