• Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    5 hours ago

    The fact that any AI company thought to train their LLM on the answers of Reddit users speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding of their own product (IMO)

    LLMs aren’t programmed to give you the correct answer. They’re programmed to give you the most pervasive/popular answer on the assumption that most of the time that will also happen to be the right one.

    So when you’re getting your knowledge base from random jackasses on Reddit, where a good faith question like “What’s the best way to get get gum out of my childs hair” get’s two two good faith answers, and then a few dozen smart-ass answers that gets lots of replies and upvotes because they’re funny. Guess which one your LLM is going to use.

    People (and apparently even the creators themselves) think that an LLM is actually cognizent enough to be able to weed this out logically. But it can’t. It’s not an intelligence…it’s a knowlege agreggator. And as with any aggregator, the same rule applies

    garbage in, garbage out

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      Thats why I have stopped calling it ai. Its a dumbass buzzword just like cloud, that tech bros like to use but cant explain (or blockchain).

      Its llms, and image generators/OCR (which has been around for decades), Using complex markov chains and a fuck ton of graphics cards. NOT AI. NOT AI.

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    I don’t care about their stock value but the situation fells so weird. So chatgpt refers to reddit less, and that makes reddit stock value fall. This really shows how much of the share value is pure hype and how much of “the economy” is pure manupulation of numbers instead of actual value.

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      That’s actually quite easy to explain. Reddits entire monetary value (or at least a very large portion) depends on how relevant it is as platform to mine user interactions - to use as training material for AI.

      Reddit getting references less is a sign that the models, or the owning companies, value reddit data less compared to before.

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        Tesla is “larger” than all other car companies combined when they’re virtually always “delayed” on actually shipping product. We live in bizarro world. Your livelihood is a single cell in a giant spreadsheet full of completely made-up numbers.

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            The thing that baffles me on that one is that it doesn’t stand up on its own terms. None of Tesla’s tech in 2025 is ahead of its competitors, and they’ve become so toxic as a brand that most top tier engineers don’t even want to work there.

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      You just described most tech stocks.

      As Cory Doctrow explains:

      the fundamental duty of every CEO of every high-growth tech company: explaining how his company will continue to grow. These growth stories are key, because growth stocks trade at a huge premium relative to the stocks of “mature” companies.

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    Reddit is a parasite that produces nothing of value. The users are the ones keeping the site alive.

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      Keep in mind if the Reddit stock price fell too much some hedge fund vulture would buy up a majority of the stock and then turn it into Nazi town.

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        Even better then. That’s how the mass migration from twitter happened.

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          It is more disaffected people than nazis. At least the places I was at there. The site wide moderation is pretty fucked in favor of powerful interests, including Nazis however. They like to chase off real people that are driving engagement in favor of the legions of influence agents with their bot accounts.

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            Right, and if the moderation allows Nazi ideology to run rampant, you have a Nazi town. Especially when it’s all mostly bots spewing Nazi talking points anyway.

            Refusing to fight hate speech is tantamount to supporting it.

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    Downvoted because this isn’t news. It’s clickbaity nonsense which has no bearing on anything real.

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    Reddit banned me today for making a joke that the patch title for Guild Wars 2 could match real life events.

    What is the patch name? The Mad King and his Lunatic Court.

    Permanently banned for what? Harassment.

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      im not surprised if the filters is looking for any “anti-trump” comments, they probably will ignore certain bots and not users.

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      I wish I could say I’m shocked. That site has fallen off so hard it’s crazy. The censorship has gone mad. It’s the main reason I’m here.

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          its pretty hard to get power mods here, since you isolate and sequester them by defederating, or block thier content. on reddit, you can get subreddit banned(mods), and sitewide banned(admins)

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          A few have. But when it happens people just start frequenting alternative communities. The good karma flows like water through the easiest path. So when an admin or a mod says they find the term bro offensive, people just unsub and find a better community.

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    That’s what pandering to the bigger techbros spez gets.

    Being there stopped being fun ever since the shits started running a massive profile-and-purge program powered by fucking AI, as even casually mentioning violence against right-wingers or POTUS and his merry chucklefucks gets your account flagged for banning. That’s why there’s now a chilling effect.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/reddit-stock-soars-as-company-posts-fastest-quarterly-revenue-growth-in-3-years-205631477.html

    Yeah, and it aged hard like milk.

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        israeli propaganda, as long as your pro-israeli or anti-russian you are free. last i recieved a 7day ban for critcizing benajamin as the instigator of the war.

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          I got my reddit ban for replying to someone in world news. Their comment was saying spain should declare war on israel. I forget why, this before the flotilla though.

          I got banned for saying that was unlikely as israel is a nuclear power.

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      All my accounts were banned except one, because I used a different email address for that one. Their “AI” isn’t as advanced as they want you to think. They literally just track you by email and IP.

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      you dont even have to mention anything you can just get banned for creating a new account, or firing up an years old account, since they will consider those as bots. it happens randomly though. so much so, the shadowban sub had so many of these bans because they got banned for little reason.(besides the one that have multiple accounts get shadowbanned).

      they started limiting the amount of time the shadowban questions stay open to silence any discussion of it.

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    Does Reddit stock pay dividends or offer shareholder voting? Is most of it at least hell by their owners, giving at least a financial interest to having its value affected? Then it might as well be Yet Another Crypto Scam, in which case it isn’t really going to affect Reddit because they’ve probably already cashed out.

    What people don’t realize is that the stock market is largely based off of on speculation on who’s going to buy or sell when, the articles that tie it directly to how the company performing are basically fortune tellers either telling their customers what they want to hear or catering to their customers by manipulating how their readers will behave.

    People use belief in the value of money to illustrate how crypto has value. The stock market is a far better analogy, and there are plenty of confidence scams to go along with it as well.

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    Oh my god I somehow forgot that Reddit IPO8ng means I get to read stories like this.

    Oh no, the world’s most poorly managed and funded corporate social media website’s with a publically traded stock is tanking, oh nooooo!

    Ahahahah!