Family and neighbors have told media outlets Maria had a restraining order against him because he allegedly had been harassing her. Her uncle posted a statement on Facebook that the driver had allegedly followed his niece to her home for months and the police were notified, but nothing was done.
Other articles have indicated that he later live-streamed a statement about the murders on his gaming stream with tens of thousands of followers. He reportedly made comments about one of the girls on his livestream, targeting her for making disrespectful comments about Charlie Kirk.
The alleged killer is the son of a police officer and related to a local police chief, which some have claimed contributed to the lack of police action against his months long stalking.
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Headlines in the USA if our country wasn’t a giant pansy, conservative ass-kissing mass of pro-sociopathic servants to hate and fascism:
“INTERNET-POISONED INCEL PIECE OF SHIT MURDERS THE FIRST TWO WOMEN OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE - PARENTS AND HOME LIFE NOT BEING INVESTIGATED BECAUSE IT WOULD REVEAL TOO MUCH ABOUT OUR SOCIETY AND POLITICS AND POLICE BROADLY”
The alleged killer is the son of a police officer and related to a local police chief, which some have claimed contributed to the lack of police action against his months long stalking.
One of the victims had a restraining order against the alleged killer. Nothing was still done. I hope a jury of his peers finds him guilty, locks him up, and throws away the key.
Nothing was done because he was related to a police officer. I’m sure they thought the restraining order was an overreaction and “he’s such a nice boy”. Giving condolences is far too little, too late.
Probably should put the officer on paid leave until an investigation is completed. Preferably by an outside company, but that would never happen.
The officer is in a different town and isn’t closely related. Some NJ families of Italian ancestry have hundreds of members in the area and aren’t close with most of them.
That’s all good information that would have come up, the fact that he is NOT his son would wrap up most of the conflict of interests pretty quick.
It would come up in an investigation but IDK that many here would know what these families are like. I grew up not far from here and know lots of families like this where their 4th cousin lives three towns over but the families aren’t close.
Shit, I don’t see my first cousins but about once a decade. 4th cousin is nothing to me. I couldn’t even possibly trace my family that far sideways.
The way I read it his dad was a cop, and his distant family member was the police chief who we are saying wouldn’t have anything to do with not following up on the reporting. Maybe the body of text under the article got me confused. Any way about it, they should verify the report was followed up on through the standard process and make sure no officers of any relation were tied to altering that process.
Side note, I have one of those 10+ letter Sicilian last names with parents from the state of NY (not city), so I get what you mean when you say our families aren’t necessarily always close.
ACAB that once again got innocent people killed.
I couldn’t finish reading the article, the kids sounds like a complete psychopath.
No child deserves life in prison, but that is not someone you want walking the streets.
He is being tried as an adult and faces 30 years for this.
that’s not what it says.
“The prosecutor’s office has not announced whether it will move in Union County Superior Court to have the case transferred from the Family Division, where juvenile crimes are tried, to the Criminal Division where he would be tried as an adult. The penalty for first-degree murder is 30 years to life in New Jersey. Anyone convicted of murder must spend 30 years in prison before becoming eligible for parole.”
Reminded me of this lol
One reason why these people are on the street is because people are too soft on mental issues and think that people don’t deserve life in prison just because they are young.
Noooooo, what you’re saying is to make the prison owners (slave owners) more money while getting them young. Private prisons and mental hospitals should be abolished. There are other countries that have free mental health hospitals and prisons that aren’t horrendous that are publicly owned. They’re doing it right.
One reason why these people are on the street is because people are too soft on mental issues and think that people don’t deserve life in prison just because they are young.
Example please
<Looks around the US and spreads arms>
There are other countries that have free mental health hospitals and prisons that aren’t horrendous that are publicly owned. They’re doing it right.
Examples please. 🤦♂️
Examples please. 🤦♂️
Norway is an excellent example.
I love the dude coming in making baseless statements and then asks everyone else for examples.
Google it dude, it’s not a secret.
Google also shows many of those countries failing to do it, and canceling programs.
This has been hashed over millions of times. Look to Northern Europe for your answers.
You could have just said “other countries, like Norway,” but you wanted this argument. We all know who you are.
Ooh buddy, buckle up.
Prison is not a suitable environment for people with mental health issues anyway. It’s simultaneously both a criminal issue and a health issue. They should be in a mental hospital, getting medical treatment until they are either safe to release, or indefinitely if they are not. We don’t ask doctors to decide if convicts are safe to release, and we shouldn’t rely solely on judges to decide when someone has a dangerous mental condition.
While involuntary treatment is an awful thing to have to consider and historically mental institutions have been awful places, so are prisons. And if we don’t like that they are awful places, we should work to make it so that people have better support for mental and parenting issues before they reach the level of becoming criminals, so that fewer people need to be sent there, and also work to make them not-so-awful places, instead of simply deciding we will never send people there, which does not solve either problem. Because there is a legitimate need for these institutions for people of all ages, when we as a society fail at preventing people from falling into these mentally unhealthy conditions without support or treatment.
Prison can mean many things. Whatever way this is, they need to be removed from the general public and placed into a location to protect us from them. I don’t think this should be with convicted criminals, but a facility properly run to provide for these people. That’s a whole other conversation though—and it doesn’t matter because it will never happen in the US. This is as good as it will ever get. It’s all down from here.
I share your pessimism, but I still think it’s important to try, and to educate. Even if all we’re doing is softening the fall by the tiniest amount, and maybe laying a new foundation for something better to come after it.
I can’t argue with that, but I do think there are significantly more important things to worry about.
You had me on the first part, thinking you were going to suggest we should address mental health long before it gets to this point. But then you veered off. You wouldn’t need the latter if we weren’t ignoring the first part.
We need more mental health care. However, part of mental health care is caring for people who would be negatively effected by people who have [blanket term issues]. That might mean denying people like this access to the rest of humanity.
I’m sure we can figure that part out once we start working on the bigger problem overall. Maybe there will always be a handful of people that can’t be helped, but we won’t know that until we help those who can be helped.
once we
Alas, never going to happen. This is the best it will get in our lifetime.
Right, people don’t deserve prison because they are young. They deserve prison because they present a danger to the public.
Correct.
I guess we’re reverting to a more MAGA centric norm of “boys will be boys” when they stalk girls. No need for the police to do anything.
I’m not suggesting things were perfect, but we have fully left the me too era for one in which Jordan Petersons theory that women are “wired” to be more subject to men, because history, and damn the actual choice women had on the matter throughout that history. As such, there will be more complacency in these matters going for(back)ward.
It’s the same as it always has been. In counties and cities run by corrupt, extremely religious people - people don’t get prosecuted for things if they’re allied with the town church, police, or politicians. This has been going on non-stop since before 1776.
It’s how religions work. If you’re one of them, you’re golden and untouchable. If you’re not, they’re going to make your life as shitty as possible. That’s what religious people do in reality, actual reality. Every day.
That’s how “red” states work.
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If I were the Dems, my platform would be to create 10 million pick and shovel jobs.
Besides the roads and bridges, we could rebuild the power grid.
Get the man babies out of the basements and give them real jobs.
And yes, I’m sure that there are a lot of women who’d love to drive dump trucks and run power lines.
edit =This getting anonymous downvotes is the funniest thing I can think of.
No actual arguments as to why it’s a terrible idea, just loathing of the idea of picking up a shovel.
Bidens infrastructure bill. Democrats do a thing. Nobody notices. People wonder why Democrats don’t do a thing.
Not only “not noticed”, the republicans just took credit for it. Complete lies, but they said it was theirs. That’s how propaganda works, and one side only uses propaganda. Because we let them broadcast it non-stop.
I had a Nanny who was shocked to learn she missed out on extra pay because of Republicans killing that part of a prior tax bill. She voted for donald every time she could. She was shocked to learn about dems infrastructure bills. I felt like I was informing an idiot what the world looked like. Republican voters are completely misinformed about reality, no degree of “they should do this” will fix the voters being misinformed.
On a personal note. I let her life fall apart after donald won. She was struggling financially and I could’ve helped her, but I didn’t. She should’ve pulled harder on her bootstraps.
Biden did that bill. Already an option, but there’s a profound concept with people you need to understand. You cannot make people do what they do not want to do.
Why? Religion. He was a religious terrorist, just like the religious preacher terrorist, Kirk, taught him to be. He acted out in religious retaliation against someone who said that they don’t like religious terrorists. So he killed them violently.
That’s how religions work. For every 10, there’s 1 violent extremist willing to die for their fictional god. For a good reason? No. They’re just religious terrorists, spreading terror in the name of their religion.
Stay away from religious people! Even speaking around them was enough to get two girls murdered by a religious terrorist. Even if they seem OK, they suddely turn. STAY AWAY FROM RELIGIOUS PEOPLE. They’re nuts.
Also, because he’s a cop’s kid.
I’m sorry, but where in the article does it mention that the alleged killer did this because religion, and where in the article does it mention he had affiliation with Charlie Kirk?
All we have is this:
In the YouTube livestream, Battiloro said he’s been bullied and ridiculed over false allegations and called for more to done to address mental health in New Jersey, including requesting that the state’s Republican gubernatorial candidate, Jack Ciattarelli, focus on that issue.
That one sentence points to him possibly supporting republicans, it says nothing about religion. Fuck Charlie Kirk and fuck the current republican administration, but that one sentence does not a terrorist make. It’s more likely that this kid was but hurt because these girls did not want to be associated with him, colloquially or romantically.
I agree it’s more likely about the murderer being rejected in some way by the victims. If anything other than that though I’d say it would be ideology and not religion, because the murdering shit for brains framed it as response to Charlie Kirk comments.
What in the world are you talking about? This had nothing whatsoever to do with religion.
Naw man. I agree with you up to a point, but not all religions are the same. I don’t see any Baha’i terrorists out there. Not even all Christian denominations are the same. The whackadoos are attracted to some religions more than others, and some religions foster crazy shit more than others.
That being said, I don’t want anything to do with American Evangelical Christianity. From what I’ve seen, that shit is right up there with the worst of nutjob religions.
Religions always have been a detriment to civil societies
I have this theory that anti-theists are just basic bigots who think they’ve found a loophole. I’m saving your comment to back up my argument.
