Funny, my digitized collection of movies and TV shows seems to be working just fine. :3
I need to download more shit!
Yarrrr
How strange my pirate streaming site seems to be fine also
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I think they were just pointing out that this is the problem with subscription services. You own nothing and you’re screwed when the service goes down.
It really doesn’t take “ludicrous amounts of time and money” to build a private library. It’s interesting how the subscription giants have managed to change people’s perceptions - when you buy content to keep, you keep some of the value, but when you subscribe you’re just getting a time pass to use someone else’s library and won’t see that money again.
They sold the proposition on convenience when everything was in one place, but now it’s all fragmented it’s a waste of money.
And of course plenty of people are building media libraries for free by sailing the seas.
@BananaTrifleViolin @dukemirage a huge proportion of the stuff people watch on Netflix/listen to on Spotify is really old media you could get second hand on CD/DVD for pennies. I mean how much is a Friends box set going for nowadays
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Didn’t you mention ludicrous amounts of money?
streaming service: 15-20€ per month per service me: vpn 5€ and a cheap hard drive
i’d be poorer with subscribing
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i don’t really understand your point. even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services. people just became too comfortable.
users pay for convenience and when the service stops their money is gone and they have nothing in return.
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i wonder why you started off on a high horse? like yea of course digitally independent people will brag about it because they´ve been telling everyone for ages they are right and we generally seem to agree
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Nope, buying things second hand should be considered just as bad as pirating as you’re depriving the creators of their entitlements, just to take your argument to its logical conclusion.
@CmdrShepard49 @dukemirage If ten people want to store or listen to the same original album at the same time then the creator gets to sell ten copies. Then they might hand them on, but ten copies are still out there. Maybe an eleventh person wants one but they’re all in use - they’re going to have to go back to the creator and buy a new one. If someone pirates one copy and gives it to nine people for them all to have at the same time then the creator only sells one copy, forever.
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Sure it is. Its their content and you’re not paying them for it which is the same as stealing, right?
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Ludicrous amounts of time and money? What do you think is involved with media piracy? lol
To be fair, if they are talking about digitizing your own library, yes, it can take a lot of time. When I attempted it, each DVD took about a half hour to 45 minutes to rip. I flat out didn’t have that kind of time with the size of my collection. It is way easier, although riskier, to download.
I did it in a few weeks. I basically swapped discs while playing games, before going to work, before bed, etc. It was tedious, but I got them all.
Now when I buy one, I’ll rip it first before watching.
Fun fact, in some countries like mine, downloading is completely legal, it’s the uploading back or seeding that’s illegal.
I think downloading movies you already own is legal, though I could be misremembering.
Ludicrous amounts of time and money? What do you think is involved with media piracy?
those tall ships are not cheap, and have you seen the price of parrots?
lmao, buddy you can get a 10tb hard drive for like $200 and fit all the pirated media you want on it. that’s less money than two mainline subscriptions for a year.
the VAST majority of data hoarders are pirates. very very few actual spend fortunes on their media collections. that’s why everyone is dogpilling you. it felt like you were attacking a strawman of the average user here and they feel the need to correct you about their nature.
it’s not about pirates feeling moral or superior. it’s about you being wrong about data hoarders.
Good advice, except that’s not a long term storage. Bit corruption is a thing.
yeah, you certainly can spend more and get better, but most media consumers don’t actually care about long term storage like that.
i only know the pricing on those drives because i just had to replace one in a nas device. i only spent money on a nas device because i work in media and need to keep large files for clients. i follow a 3-2-1 backup system because my job depends on it, but it’s not at all necessary to enjoy media.
yep!
Just let us be excited
This is our version when there’s a big storm and your neighbourhood dads start going around with chainsaws offering to cut up downed trees.
So, in the US, a standalone, bare-minimum with ads included Disney+ subscription costs $9.99. Oops, actually we’re raising it to $11.99 TOMORROW! So after a paying for a year of Dinsey’s cheapest plan, you’d have paid $144.
But maybe Disney isn’t your thing? Well. Netflix costs $7.99 for the ad plan, and $17.99 for the no ads plan. But do note, even on the ad supported plan, you STILL can’t watch everything.
Ad-supported, all mobile games and most movies and TV shows are available. A lock icon will appear on unavailable titles.
Ranges $96-216 per year for ads or no ads.
Like anime? Crunchyroll offers a $7.99 plan, but it might not have all the content, so then there’s the $11.99 plan. So $96-144 per year. But their catalog doesn’t even have every fucking anime, and they’ve let dubbing go to the wayside after buying out their main competitor, Funimation (in which we lost several anime due to licensing).
Listen to music on top of that? Spotify for non-students ($5.99) costs $11.99, so $144 in a year. YT music is $10.99 for non-students, so $132
So say you listen to Spotify, like anime, and watch Netflix, you’re paying at minimum $336 per year, on the cheapest plans available, which usually have ads or missing features.
I’ve been looking at Optiplex and Lenovo ThinkCentres on ebay recently, and for my bare minimum standards of 1. Can support virtualization, 2. Can do Intel quick sync video and encode HEVC 10-bit (So about 10 year old devices) the prices range around $90-$150. Some 2TB HDDs would be about $100. You’d probably be pirating since most of the new shows on streaming services have no physical media to buy/no way of just owning a movie or TV box set. Even then, outright buying music and movies is cheaper in the long run. Anything you already own can be added to your library. You’ll never be told that “oops we didn’t pay to re-up our access to that movie, so it’s gone!” You’ll never have new ads, paywalled features, limited devices, or other bullshit. The server is up whenever you want it to be, provided you can handle being tech support.
So in the end, a home server + drives costs less than paying for several services where you own shit, and they can cut features or raise the price any day. But yes, we’re just being conceited assholes.
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conceited
1981 wants it’s term back.
I’m not a native speaker.
old server + 12 tb block acc. Costs like 15 cans of coke zero
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Dawg even pirate stream sites don’t host on AWS and GCP, you can still watch your content for free online without worrying about a cloud outage because pirate sites actually distribute their files on several cloud platforms since they’re technically always at risk of DMCA lol.
https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status
I suspect the big problem is that IAM (AWS authentication system) is affected and it is not decentralized, which is causing other systems worldwide to fail because the internal authentication is broken.
I can’t login to the AWS console to check on my stuff in the European zone, because the login goes through IAM in us-east-1 where all the authentication does.
It really highlights just how centralized so much of the internet is on like three companies (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google)
There is a chrome addon that will “block” anything from AWS with the goal being you get to see how much of the world relies on it.
I’m starting to understand why some companies are starting to exit AWS and back to their own data centers.
That’s the ebb and flow of IT hosting / support.
On prem -> off prem -> on prem -> off prem
Same goes for off shore workers. Back and forth back and forth
Every company I’ve ever worked for has had that flip flop. :/
It really highlights just how centralized so much of the internet is on like three companies (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google)
Cloudflare: What am I? Chopped liver?
Sorry I missed this. I was too busy enjoying my library of media locally over Jellyfin.
Funny. My Jellyfin instance is working fine. 😏
Oh no, anyways
opens VLC to watch stuff I already downloaded a few days ago
its us-east-1 as usual, I guess its that time of the year. and the companies haven’t changed either… so, basically the IT guys told the budget approvers we need more money they calculated it and said, no. see you next year for another one.
Or aws still haven’t fixed their own dependantcies on that region
*won’t fix
Looks like it was an Amazon AWS outage. Just geos to how how vulnerable the Internet is as it becomes ever more concentrated into the hands of the tech giants.
As someone who works in tech I occasionally point out to people that if Jeff Bezos decided to go full supervillain he could hold the internet hostage. If you disabled AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud individually the cascading failures on the various systems would take weeks to fix, which we might not have with a supply chain collapse. Genuinely, I think there’s a real chance it could trigger the collapse of human civilization
The mindblowing part of it for me is that a company the size of Disney don’t seem to have the appetite to own and run their own servers.
These are the same people that managed to get two counties redistricted so that they could own their own city, and to this day literally buy the entire electorate by giving housing only to people who vote the way they’re told to.
They’re being run by accountants, and one thing accountants hate is paying people to do a job, its always “far easier” just to pay a company for that.
And criminals.
That’s what they said.
Thats what happens when a single company controls the flow
Hehe. Imagine managing your house in the cloud, and suddenly there is no heating, no light, all the “smart” appliances don’t work anymore, and the shower only produces cold water, because the shower thermostat got a “0” as return value when asking for the preferred temperature…
There’s a good reason why I refuse to use cloud connected or Internet required “smart” devices.
It’s essentially an excuse for shitty engineering.
If you really need a device to be cloud connected then it can also maintain local data when the remote server is down. Even better, it uses an open spec and you can standup your own server.
This is why Home Assistant exists.
Of course. But 99% of the population is either too lazy or to dumb for that, or such problems would not exist.
99% of the population is either too lazy…
Nudges an unopened box of Zigbee door sensors ordered 2 years ago to the back of the shelf.
It’s not that far off. I woke up to an Internet outage and none of my home lighting routines fired off and I couldn’t control my lights via wifi. I got it under control shifting to Bluetooth but for a second it was infuriating.
the fact that your home network setup for this relies on an internet connection is baffling
Games that require persistent internet are baffling to me… I mean the hitman games cannot store your mission achievements offline…
But games are games… if my stove and fridge and showers (fucking showers with wifi?) Need internet connectivity then that is bullshit. They are being too fucking optimistic about everything.
Knowing a game is spying on me ruins the fun. My Steam Deck is blocked from the internet for that reason, but a fair number of games on Steam won’t work without connectivity. I seem to remember hearing about some girl who shares a huge collection of games that don’t require connectivity, though.
Is she fit?
I love fitgirls.
Well it ultimately just keeps score snd achievements… but why the fuck do the achievements need to be cloud based? None of the other games I have are like that.
Games like that are also baffling to me, thankfully I’ve not purchased one but I would return it as soon as I discovered the limitation if that were to happen
I bought just the hitman game because I am a completionist and I just want that one. I don’t care for many other games.
Sounds like someone needs HomeAssistant…
Mostly they need to move to Zigbee/Matter or similar.
Was getting up and turning on the light switch not an option?
Never.
God, so many things gone wrong there. At least they could use “30” as the default value, right???
at least its not -254
That would break physics (assuming you’re using Celsius)
well considering it controls a heat exchanger device it can only break you
NM, I had it in my head that absolute zero is -253.15, but it’s -273.15
Hey, I could at least observe superconductors at home!
at least its not -254
PirateBay reliable as ever…
Signal seems to be down as well?
Its back up now but that’s because Signal uses AWS.
I like signal and use it daily, but it is very strange that an app built for privacy and security doesn’t let you self host. I wonder about the reasoning behind that sometimes.
I think it’s more questionable that it uses AWS
It appears to be resolved now? I’m able to message people.
It’s working on my end as well!
Oh I didn’t notice 🏴☠️
LoL, same. I didn’t even know a problem existed til I opened up Lemmy this morning. 😂
Same.
It’s perfecto
but how? isn’t all that stuff all up in the cloud? The cloud is great, right?
cloud’s gone
AWS outage. Basically Bezos went down on all his customers.
Whooosh
I sure do love working at an MSP during times like this. Today fuckin sucked. Clients called in non-stop about things being broke AND our ticketing and remote support software was up and down all day
People are too uneducated to just see what works and what doesn’t and add 1 and 1 together. If Google or WhatsApp work and Amazon doesn’t then it‘s definitely an Amazon problem.
At this point, I’m not surprised by people not having critical thinking skills. I encounter folks who do not think at all about anything on the daily.
But… those people are allowed to vote… and have children…
And that fact is deeply upsetting at times.
Like union guys on an automobile assembly line but holy crap do they ever get paid well!
Don’t judge an entire industry of people bro. That’s hella rude.
I was judging the union, not the working stiffs. Still rude though I guess.
