She also made $29,000,000 in 2022 for herself, cause she worked so hard and made so many cars herself. Ha

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    Stock buybacks need to be made illegal again. I don’t understand how it’s anything other than market manipulation.

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        He’s was the first paid actor, just a puppet so the people in control can remain unknown. Skull and bones secret society was/is a real thing.

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          It’s not a secret, we know who the billionaires are that are funding this madness, but the only people that could put a stop to it, are the ones benefiting from them.

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            So we’ll have to eat them for real.

            The announcement of the first TRILLIONAIRE should cause a worldwide civil war.

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      It makes sense if they’re pulling out of the stock market entirely, in that case it’s just settling the books. Any other reason is to manipulate the price. The whole stock market is a house of cards controlled directly by a few self-titled elites though, so chicanery is literally built in and always was.

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      I agree. I could live with it if it were merely a way to defer taxes, but the U.S. has something called the stepped-up basis. This allows people to inherit stocks without paying tax on the capital gains. The wealthy can live their whole lives without paying any tax. Both stock buy-backs and the stepped-up basis severely undermine the stock market and tax system.

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        Thank you. And amazing to see you have positive upvotes.

        Whenever someone makes a comment like this on reddit, an army of accounts would appear to downvote and argue against it.

        I’m convinced the narrative on reddit is highly controlled on these kind of topics.

        Either that, or the retards of WSB were the culprits and they haven’t found their way to lemmy yet.

        Now that I think of it, perhaps those same accounts were used to manipulate retail traders on WSB… hmmm…

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          I am an MBA and agree that buybacks are fine. The problem is toxic anti-capitalism from my perspective. People are not really educated well on these topics. I find your comment funny that an army of accountants come to explain things and help everyone understand the nuances and why this is needed, but all the experts are somehow shills.

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            The problem is toxic anti-capitalism

            It’s not like capitalism is doing itself (or the 99%) any favors. When it’s blatantly clear that the ultra rich and short-term profit seeking are responsible for a lot of world problems (extreme pollution, climate change, corruption, being essentially immune to most laws), being “toxic anti-capitalist” is a natural step.

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                That was probably more valid before WW2. Afterwards, it’s mostly government (military) spending and financing that really funded the innovations we’re using today, at least regarding computers and electronics

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                  The modern PC was developed in a garage. Linux was a pet project. Uber and many other companies was funded by the previous success of another app. The owner sold StumbleUpon to eBay for $75M then used that money to make a killer rideshare app. SpaceX, Tesla, Streaming media. I beg to differ on whether most innovation is government funded. There are thousands of entrepreneurs that prove you wrong on that point.

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      It’s very obviously is. Stock buybacks aren’t allowed almost anywhere else in the world for a reason. It just leads to terrible behavior. This coupled with insanely low effective corporate tax rates means companies horde capital and do buybacks instead of doing other activities that are more economically beneficial to the country. Like increasing worker pay…

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      I agree. They need to do a reverse split if they want to change the shares in circulation.

      The idea was a company could show faith by buying their own stock. Now ceo pay is tied to factors associated with the stock that can be manipulated by buying it back.

      The IBM bro Ginny made millions while the company shrunk by manipulating the stock.

      I don’t care what a ceo makes. I do care what they do. If they’re only focusing on themselves, I care.

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    Keep these CEO memes coming. These assholes need to have a spotlight shown on them. A company is not a person, a company is ran by people.

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        They do if we threaten their pockets or their lives.

        Historically, which one is targeted is their choice.

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            I’d rather steal from them. There’s a Brazilian saying, “A thief that steals from a thief has 100 years of forgiveness”

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              We have the same saying in Spanish, but it’s 1000 in our case, so if you steal do it in Rodrigo Montoya way :)

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            Pick a time in history where there was violent upheaval of working people. Tell me who they targeted first.

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              You are calling for people’s deaths. That is a punishable offense and makes you batshit insane.

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                No. I’m highlighting that, historically, angry poor people have killed callous rich people.

                It’s naive to not recognise it will happen again.

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                  You have about as much plausible deniability here as someone saying “watch out mr president, a lot of presidents have been assasinated in the past”.

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        Seriously, a lot of CEOs and most managers could be much more easily replaced by AI than the workers. Run some analysis on some metrics lay off people based on that. Go over the market analytics, direct staff to work on derivative versions of the products that have good numbers, cancel products that don’t. I’m not even sure if you really need AI for this, a very basic script could handle a lot of it.

        Of course a program would be lacking in the common sense to say “Nobody is going to drop a week’s pay so they can go into a virtual world where they’re a poorly drawn legless cartoon character”. But present day CEOs make these mistakes anyway. It wouldn’t be good, but it wouldn’t be worse than the status quo.

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      It’s blatant stock manipulation. The stock price goes up because they increase demand for the stock for no reason. The value of the company doesn’t change at all other than they’re holding stock as an asset instead of the cash. Yet the stock is worth more now. It’s stock manipulation, plain and simple.

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      But…but it’s politics! Surely politics must always be 50/50 divisive, and not be based around universal assmunchers that any sane person should agree is an asshole?

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    They could’ve paid for all of the UAW’s asks and then some with just that but it’s less about the money and more about trying to look strong. The reality is they are nothing without their workers, no company is.

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      Just like how the losses the entertainment industry has suffered due to the writers and actors strike could have paid for their demands 10 times over. This is 100% about stripping the power from workers and keeping the power in the C suite.

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    How cool would sleeper cells of anti-capitalist assistants, cooks, personal trainers, etc be lol. These people should be living like Putin afraid everyone is planning to take them out. Take the joy from their lives if that’s all you can take.

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    “But if you shared that money among all workers, they’d only get an extra 50 cents per hour!!!” - some tool defending corporate profit

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        True, but that would only be for one year. What about after that? Take the raise away? They don’t do $3.4b stock buy backs every year I imagine.

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          That’s just the exorbitant profit that they put into stock buy backs. And if they spent half of that on buybacks and gave every employee a 10k bonus I’m sure opinions of them would be a lot more favourable.

          They could easily cut back some of their “profit” to pay people better

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            Yes, I don’t disagree that it should have gone to employees, just wanted to be clear that $10 an hour wasn’t quite accurate. I’m sure a one time yearly bonus would be just as much appreciated and needed.

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              They also paused stock dividends for COVID 3 years ago and only resumed it now at 9¢ instead of 38¢

              And their 2022 gross profit was nearly 21 billion dollars. That’s an extra 60 dollars an hour for every employee

              They have the money.

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          They don’t do $3.4b stock buy backs every year I imagine.

          No… but they could give everyone a $2/hr raise, which isn’t trivial, and sustain themselves at that level for FIVE YEARS on the current excess.

          Another option is to give everyone a bonus; doing the math on 3.4bn/167k workers, is around 20k each; even if they “only” gave half of that back to the workers, a $10k bonus is pretty nice and one-time. There’s no excuse…

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      They just want to maintain their status quo, humanity be damned.