Sounds familiar?

British Empire?

American Colonies?

Time is a circle.

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    Only problem with this theory is there is no native population to exploit. Colonialism/empirism fails when you can’t subjugate anyone.

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    80+% of earth’s surface is still completely uninhabited by humans.
    I’m talking about the sea floor, Antarctica, most of Australia, most of Siberia, the high mountain ranges, and the Sahara.
    It would be so much easier to build colonies there than on Mars.
    Even if our worst predictions about climate change come true, hell even if warming was twice as bad, they would still be much more hospitable to human life than Mars.

    We haven’t colonized those places, because it simply isn’t worth the effort.
    So why would it be worth the much, much bigger effort to settle on Mars?

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    Not an expert in this, but since east-asians are more family/clan oriented, i do think they are less likely to focus on individual freedom.

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    So, a Martian Congressional Republic? It does sound like something those damned dusters would pull.

    What next? The denizens of the asteroid belt calling for more rights and designating an Outer Planet Alliance, while a mysterious proto-molecule wreaks havoc on the Solar System?

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      Wrecks havoc? Expanse was so unrealistic. Protogen would pay doctors in all factions to “speedrun herd immunity, open up trade and travel for the economy”. Errenwright would tell Secretary General to say “stop testing protomolecule and we won’t have cases”. MEGA will be ordering deliveries of protomolecule injections to inject themselves. Holden spaces himself because canonically at that time he still thinks the problem with people is lack of access to information.

    • I actually don’t know enough curse words / insults.

      Maybe like: 伊隆係個死八婆 (Cantonese for “Elon is a dead bitch”, in Cantononese, they add “dead” in front of curseword nouns to make it more dramatic lol, its shall not be construed as an actual threat, legally speaking)

      Or maybe: 埃隆有小鸡鸡 (Mandarin for “Elon has a small dick” ? Idk I heard other Mandarin-speaking classmates say it.)

        • Cantonese vs Mandarin

          Different Sounds, Different Transliterations.

          Idk how those even work, but that’s just what the wikipedia says.

          The reverse transliteration also has differences.

          Like…

          A Mainlander and a Hong Konger also have different name transliterations.

          黃家駒 is “Wong Ka Kui” in Hong Kong, but if he had been a Mainlander, it’d be “Huang Jiaju”.

          Heck, even Taiwan use different transliterations, even tho its the same Mandarin as Mainland, like Tsai ing-wen would be Cai Yingwen, if she was a Mainlander

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    and after a while a regime change leaves an ousted guy running to mars to exile and then use its labor forces as cheap labor for american capitalists who then attempt to pretend mars was never chinese anyway.

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    They already have a few of those right now. They don’t seem too keen on letting them go.

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    What a take, lol. China is “not free” but the West has either hick Gestapo or German/British police officers arresting grandmas and beating up brown people to their hearts’ content… These Chinese Martians wouldn’t just randomly become restless, confused, unstable Westerners, btw. 🤷

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    Why China tough? They would just be walking in the footsteps of England at that point? Totally lame!

    Would be way cooler if you built a chain of rebellions: Rome -> Britannia*/England -> America -> Mars. That’s like next level independenception or something.

    *caveats: Britannia did rebel, but independence came when Rome just couldn’t afford to rule Britannia any more. They weren’t kicked out.

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        Yeah, it’s cool to colonise a new place, but what about the day when the colonists bite the hand that feeds them? In many sci-fi stories, Mars eventually rises against Earth.

        History repeats itself, like the episodes of Power Rangers. The writers had only one script, and hardly any creativity, so they just made minor tweaks here and there and turned that napkin into a series.