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Am I the only one surprised there were even that many in the first place?
I can’t believe you’ve never heard of Zoogle, Bokia, Pamsung, ACKOOO, ACKOOO2², Votorola…
Don’t forget uPhone, GRE, Hawaii, Mulberry, Lentuvo, and Hitsubishi.
Chinese companies love the ACKOOO type names. LPOWERB, SUPERQ, FKPHONE, that kind of thing.
FKPHONE
Who wouldn’t want to buy a Fuckphone?
Honestly if I was in the market for an achoo or a fuckhphone, I would totally buy a fuckphone
With all the shitbrands on amazon and similar sites I was only half surprised but still 100% more surprised than I should have been.
Most of them were not real manufacturers, but slapping their name on Chinese white brand phones.
The movement for free and open source software has not achieved a world in which most people use only FOSS. But it has achieved a world where there is a lot of diversity in technology, including many Android smartphone brands you haven’t heard of.
Maybe they are counting all the times Microsoft launched a new brand of phone and then unceremoniously killed off about 6 months later?
HTC was truly a pioneer.
My first Android phone and it was amazing. Now I see that they make a “blockchain phone,” I hope it’s a fucking joke.
HTC is dead?
Deader’n a door nail.
The HTC Evo 3D was a bad ass!
That’s capitalism, baby! Thanks for playing!
“THERE’S NO CRYING IN CAPITALISM!”
*cries a lot in capitalism*
Well, yes, that’s how it works. What’s the problem? We should have 500 factories cranking out pollution and waste vs. the cream of the crop rising up?
I’m mocking the fact that the articles are often written in such a way that I should feel sorry for the companies that die, like how we killed the Diamond industry and the fashion industry and gasp the napkin industry
“Millenials are ruining the market again”
Market has skill issues.
The avocado toasts are killing companies.
“Y’ALL FUCKIN’ WITH MAH DIVIDENDS!”
Smartphones have reached a maturity level where upgrades aren’t really exciting. Sure there are the usual hardware power upgrades (and even those don’t really open up new applications), but in terms of features they’re not coming out with anything really novel. Last thing I could think of is bringing back folding which I do find appealing, but not for the cost or the reliability issues.
One of them has to do 3d camera sooner than later. It’s so close… just need another camera at the bottom back of the phone.
This has been tried and I’ve tried one out back in android KitKat days. Glassless display and all. HTC phone. They’re now bankrupt. The battery lasted a few seconds, and the display was not amazing, and even if done better today it’s a gimmic at best
The problem with 3D pictures is needing something to view them on. I’ve heard of one phone from maybe a decade ago that had a full 3D display that could be viewed from a wide range of angles, but it cost way too much and heavily sacrificed display resolution. Without widespread adoption, it’s doomed to be mostly a gimmick. Some would argue that it’ll always be a gimmick, but I think if it was widespread it’d basically be like high resolution i.e. an enhanced way of looking at content. Maybe not mindblowing after you’re used to it, but worthwhile if it can be done without sacrificing too much.
I want a phone with a built in projector… and a bigger battery… and something else I haven’t thought of yet.
I miss new features and innovation.
Since we have neither, give me modularization to let me have ^
Phone makers: hmm this isn’t selling. Guess we’ll only make phones that look like and do the exact same things as every other phone.
RIP project ARA.
I hate that Google killed that project. Haken’s block phone is still a great concept that is now used for Framework laptops. I hope thats someone can start doing that for mobiles. Fairphone is OK, but still far from Haken’s idea.
That was the Motorola Moto Z series for ya, had pins on the back for modules to be attached. Some modules were a battery pack, jbl speaker, a projector, and even a little printer to have the phone work like a polaroid
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I was just wiping my Force 2 the other day to install an unlocked OS and was impressed how much battery life that clip on pack gives it.
Without it the Force 2 was the slimmest phone on the market and with the pack on it just feels normal. Yet I can get like three days out of it, and I bought it in 2017.
Also the LGG5 to a lesser extent. I had a chin module that acted as an extra battery and fine control for the camera.
We are heading towards a future of Apple, Samsung, and Google, with even the latter two struggling to stay afloat.
And to be fair, Google deserves a lot of the blame for this happening.
How is Samsung struggling to stay afloat? Samsung has had the largest global market share for years.
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And are under the impression that what’s going on in the US is going on worldwide. Apple is doing fine worldwide, but isn’t nearly as dominant as in the US.
Yeah if you forget your iphone cable here, you’re going to have to go buy another one since you’re probably the only person you know that has an iphone.
Yes. But I think most importantly, Samsung can spin out budget phones and actually sell it. No one’s buying cheap Apple product. Currently mostly it is a status symbol… as most-if-not-all high end phones. Don’t get me wrong, great devices but we all know what kind of personalities mostly go for Apple stuff.
I pretty much go for the se models when they have them, and buy every 4-5 generations. Most people want a device that works, and most smart people want a device that’s going to get more than a couple years of software support. So Apple.
Google should have just spread Android features to 2, 3 years instead of as soon as possible, to match feature set of iOS. Then most Android would be getting easy 10 years of support. But then again most Android phone manufacturers selling a device, Apple is selling services and side products. Giving the die size of A16 SOC and quality hardware, Apple probably giving you their phones at cost and keeping them up to date so you can buy their other products.
Apple is making a profit on every piece of hardware, make no mistake. But that’s only possible because of their scale and focus, which is hard for competitors to compensate for. They literally bought all the 3nm chips for the next year.
Looks like Samsung and Apple trade off on leader of global market share, but Samsung is second place when it isn’t first.
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/global-smartphone-share/
Tell me you only live in an American bubble without telling me you live in an American bubble.
How much money do you think OEMs make off selling cheap Android phones?
Xiaomi making banks selling mid and low tier phones
Google, sure. But Samsung has more marketshare than Apple.
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/global-smartphone-share/
20% Samsung 17% Apple 12% Xiaomi 10% OPPO 8% Vivo
I’d doubt Samsung will be struggling to stay afloat. They’re so diversified they could pick one of their departments to throw money at and just run at a loss in perpetuity, if they felt like it. Apple makes phones, computers, and phone and computers accessories.
Samsung makes phones and computers. And appliances. And chips. And container ships.
And insurance, and healthcare, and construction, etc. They are involved in so many different industries it’s almost hard to believe.
When one of the owner family’s board members fell sick a few years ago they were monitored at a Samsung hospital in Korea if i’m not mistaken
And tanks, missiles, artillery, fighter jets…
It’s incredible how much they are involved in
Yea, was just talking about their phone lines, not them as a company.
Huawei and Honor can both survive purely on domestic sales before you even worry about ROW.
No idea why you think there are only three brands, or why you think the US is the only market that matters (it’s fairly obvious you are US based)
Absolutely nothing good came from them ending the Nexus program. I LOVED all the variety in Nexus. The Pixel phones are just shitty iPhone clones with barely better features.
I wouldn’t even say better features. This will be my last Pixel. I’m tired of Google just not maintaining their products at all.
apple & china robbed us of so much, if you’re a gadget guy.
i had sony phones, laptops, palm pilots, panasonic bit and bobs.
i get that technology has advanced infinitely in the last 20 years, but we are on a very narrow path at the moment.
Sony still makes phones, some super high end, bur their marketing sucks balls
As did their support - I had a p800 and p910, and while they looked cool, they were really not great compared to my original iPhone. Everyone here can romanticize all they want, but leaving symbian for ios was like a revelation; I can still remember the wonderment.
Its so cool to be contrary and hate the successful thing now, but nothing was “stolen”. You always had choice. Its not what was chosen though - that how evolution works.
Sony is the only company right now that has a flagship phone with great camera, removable battery, all the holes and comes in smaller sizing.
Yeah…and google had nothing to do with that. It was ALL Apple & China.
I’m sorry I didn’t mention your favourite brand
I’m an adult. I don’t have favorite brands.
What did China have to do with any of this?
Cheap mass production of electronics largely based on existing designs
Sounds like you’re describing amazon
I didn’t even know there were that many.
I’ve been using motorolla android phones for like…16 years now.
I just remembered! I got a samsung recently.
Motorola phones for me and my family, they are reliable and work. At work they give me Samsung phones I guess that knox things sells to companies.
Hate Samsung, they force their own keyboard into the work profile pure balls. It’s bad at basic keyboard things.
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Which is better than Samsung, they used force notifications for the likes of their calendar app. If you removed the permissions it would give you a constant notifications alerting you to the app not working properly.
Scumbag Samsung
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Wow. I can hardly name 50 brands, let alone 500.
They all did the same, without innovation there won’t be another big smartphone brand.
Somebody pls come along and make a phone with headphone jack, micro sd slot, and fingerprint sensor.
If you make it all, and in a small frame, I’m buying right away.
I bought this a few days ago and it arrives next week: https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_10_iv-11522.php.
It’s not iPhone or Zenfone small and it’s only midrange spec but it’s pretty compact. Plus SD card slot, 3.5mm jack…
Its a bit funny how I find that model to be too big. People like me have definitely been abandoned from the market.
But thanks for the recommendation. I ended up grabbing an older model that still works as a low end phone, but I wonder for how long I will be able to use older phones…
It’s definitely larger than I’d like but damned if the manufacturers haven’t heard our demands and realised that, once again, compactness is a premium feature. You can get an itty bitty iPhone or S23 but fuck all in the mid range. Thanks again, The Market!
Fairphone?
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I thought there were only 2 brands
I bet most people can name 6 or do.
But that’s about it.
Anyone paying for flagship phones has too much money and no need for a camera that great.
Blu and Moto phones all the way.
Moto?
Motorola lost my business when they sold me a phone and then provided a grand total of ONE OS upgrade its entire life (Moto G LTE, shipped with an outdated 4.4 build, and then got a single update to 5.1 before being abandoned forever).
There is no potential for brand loyalty when the brand themselves tell their own customers to fuck off.
No idea why you’re being downvoted but I agree. My non flagship android is more than adequate for my demands of it.
Yeah I have a midrange Samsung A31, its more than adequate for my needs
The difference between users on whatever instance you’re on lol. I’m showing myself at 8 and 0 in Kbin.
I miss LG.
I liked some of them. I still wonder how many were Amazon’s random relabeled crap like AIUEO.
Its good weak companies are getting thined out. Its sad but necessary
Uhhh
Why is that good
How is that good in any way
Who does that helpIt clears out companies who fail to complete. There are only so many people willing to buy a phone at a time and too many phones on the market means that the phone companies won’t be able to sell enough phones to stay afloat. This means that the companies who can’t offer a compelling device to consumers will disappear.
Its similar to natural selection
My response got eaten so here’s the gist: big tree gets all the sunlight, and you rejoice when a few saplings choke each other out.
The entrenched companies don’t need to do anything other than exist in order to eliminate competition. Fewer saplings means less risk of the big tree getting disrupted. That means less innovation.
What do you propose doing?
Break up the monopolies and encourage actual competition and innovation instead of this stupid hopeless deadlock.
I don’t think Tue android phone space is a monopoly. (Not counting Google’s control of course) A monopoly is when a single company is the only one selling a product or service
