• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    No they hate the US and NATO in general. The hotel was going to be build on the ruins of a military headquarter that NATO bombed because the Serbian army under Mladić didn’t want to surrender. Remember many Serbs see Mladić as a hero and they deny that the Bosnian genocide ever happened. Some of these protesters are pro ethnic cleansing. There are no heroes here.

    • Dayroom7485@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Some of these protesters are pro ethnic cleansing. There are no heroes here.

      I may not like the protesters’ motivation, but I like the outcome - Kushner’s an autocrat, and whenever he looses, it’s a win.

      Same with Anthony Joshua beating the shit out of Jake Paul. I may not like that Joshua supported Robert Mugabe in 2017. But when he breaks Paul’s jaw, I like the outcome, it’s a win.

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      2 days ago

      Feels to me like they’re protesting their own government more than Trump & Co. But of course, both can be true.

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          18 hours ago

          Of course I want people responsible for deaths to be held accountable, not allow the country to cross a dangerous threshold where people can be killed willy-nilly.

          Would love it if Trump could just keel over too, but that’s a bit much to ask for.

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        2 days ago

        If they protest their government catering to Trump & Co., that’ll be enough. They can’t directly influence US politics anyway, so focusing on their own is reasonable.

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    We don’t have the kinds of protections other folks have with regard to free speech. It’s not about balls. Our first amendment gives you the right to carry a sign down the sidewalk. If you stop walking you can be arrested. The arrest can affect your employment / you can be fired for being arrested. There’s no unemployment if you get fired. There’s no social safety net. People miss two paychecks and they can’t eat.

    Exercising free speech in America is super high stakes. Once again, it’s not about balls.

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        1 day ago

        If you literally don’t see the difference, I don’t know what to say.

        Ok maybe one thing: I’ve been in demonstrations all over the world, major protests like Arab Spring and the second penguin revolution in Chile. Actions that changed governments. I’ve met so, so, so many people who do what’s in the OP. And you will never convince me that not wanting to potentially lose everything their family’s ever worked for their whole lives to protest against billionaires doing routine billionaire shit makes someone a pussy.

  • TheJesusaurus@sh.itjust.works
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    Americans, and I don’t say this to be rude but more to say reflect on yourself. I’m not saying I’d be a hero. I’m not saying we’d all know what to do or do better, but there doesn’t seem to be any kind of working class solidarity as even a figment of the American psyche is seems.

    Anyway,  getting off track.

    What has America done on the path all the way the brought us to today, and what have you done, your state, your municipality. Community, whatever. From the outside looking in it doesn’t seem like a lot, and even now while trump casually casts aside clear restraints and limits on power established in the courts and constitution. Daily behaves like a tinpot dictator, and goes unopposed, because nobody says boo.

    It’s illegal, doesn’t matter he does it

    It’s unconstitutional, says who? He does it.

    He’s taking your people in the night, with unmarked soldiers, working outside the law, but it keeps happening. And that’s your citizens .

    The treatment of non citizens, of any status now seems to be treated the same. With suspicion and bias, and the threat of deportation to be hung above them to keep them in line. I say non citizens, but many citizens and green card holders are caught up in this. People have been jailed for weeks without contact with lawyers or family, this is PREPOSTEROUS in America, it’s lunacy. It is vile and cruel and a betrayal of the values your nation was supposed to uphold.

    Even citizens now are expected to stay inline or shut up, not to criticize the emperor and by extension all his little royal henchdweebs. Your social medias will be scoured 5 years thence, so ordered

    And you seem to largely be allowing this to go on occuring, in many cases without much let or hindrance.

    Is this the America you want and if not please do something.

    Signed, a concerned Canadian.

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      2 days ago

      If not us then who? If not now then when?

      His evil acts are being done on our behalf and with our power. I agree it should piss off every American to be associated with it.

      We have a duty to at least say it. A duty to tell our reps and senators. Our state goveners and legislators. Our mayors and councils. Our employers and coworkers. To tell them to reject complicity with unconditional acts, with ethnic cleansing, with the genocide. To call for protections at any level we can. To call for the removal from office of anyone that is complicit.

      We have the power. People are acting, but it needs to be any concionable person, any person who will be or someone they now will be affected by a government violating let alone failing to protect human rights.

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        17 hours ago

        We are causing some uh stirring, but I have a feeling if our president gets overthrown, some right-wing grifter will use this as an opportunity to hop on.

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      2 days ago

      I personally would like one of his golden statues where the gold is sprayed on so badly that it starts to come off pretty much immediately, revealing the mud-colored recycled plastic underneath.

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    2 days ago

    I like to think events like this can usher in a golden age in a nations history… I mean, what a show of national unity, right? Powerful.