Boiling lobsters while they are alive and conscious will be banned as part of a government strategy to improve animal welfare in England.
Government ministers say that “live boiling is not an acceptable killing method” for crustaceans and alternative guidance will be published.
The practice is already illegal in Switzerland, Norway and New Zealand. Animal welfare charities say that stunning lobsters with an electric gun or chilling them in cold air or ice before boiling them is more humane.
I had to tactfully shame my mom for this. Asked if she wanted her end to be quick or slow. She didn’t have the capacity to even think of it cause it’s not a possibility. Some folks just don’t really think about others in certain ways.
The usual way of dispatching a lobster is a knife straight in the centre of the brain and cutting forward. Not sure why anyone would want a lobster to be alive when its actually cooked.
I thought lobsters don’t have a brain and instead have a decentralised nervous system?
After watching Seaspriacy on Netflix, I stopped eating seafood, with exception to dried seaweed.
what about fish?
Scratched fish off my list.
I’m all for this but how are they going to enforce it on a consumer level?
Good!
With this administration’s track record, I’m half expecting this to turn out to be the justification for putting “lobster-verification” cameras in everyone’s kitchen.
“A bobby at every table and a camera in every pot.”
- Liz Truss or something, idk UK politics
Calling the UK Gov the “administration” sounds off.
The proper term for parliamentary systems is just “government”.
Oh, then that.
I didn’t realise they weren’t interchangeable. They feel a lot like administrators.
I didn’t want to be as vague as saying “these twats” to a possibility international audience.
i prefer lobsters that were boiled AFTER they become unalive
Culinary school recommended a quick kitchen knife through the brain immediately before boiling
Is the recommendation the same for other crustaceans?
Instead of boiling them alive, yes.
Lobsters are the one you are going to see alive most, though, as their meat breaks down very quickly after they die. That isn’t true of most other crustaceans, at least not to the same degree
I’ve seen crabs boiled alive, and shellfish like clams and oysters are steamed alive.
With the crabs you can snip them between the eyes for a quick death but I’m not sure what to do for a clam
proof that their flesh is only held together by their immense psychic powers :)
LET’S GOOO
UK government caring more about lobster welfare than that of trans people.
Maybe time to start identifying as a lobster…
The bad thing is that these goals do not conflict with each other: they could easily do both if they wanted to.
Is this a poorly executed joke or whataboutism.
It’s the Streisand effect, when an ineffectual government actually does something it becomes a reminder of its failures
While they are alive and conscious.
That’s why I fill my lobsters with propofol before cooking them. People always say my dinner parties are a snooze. I don’t know why, I always have a good time. Of course, I don’t eat lobster.
I like this
The amount of people that are in knots trying to defend a barbaric practice is quite telling.
Chopping down plants & eating them is also barbaric.
No, it fucking ain’t.
And it’s also not a funny joke.
Do plants feel pain the way a lobster would? I genuinely don’t know.
I do know that making an animal suffer rather than giving it a quick death is wrong.
Now this I can agree with.
Isn’t it time you checked in on Carol?
Yes agreed so lets just starve then, only proper thing to do
Just learn to photosynthesize like that guy obviously does
Nah, you starve. You’re the one who’s into that stuff.
Honestly that seems pretty reasonable. Boiling things alive is pretty barbaric.
time to ban Halal slaughter now too!
https://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/slaughter/religiousslaughter
I mean… its not really banning Halal slaughter.
Its adding a step to it.
Around 88% of animals slaughtered in the UK for Halal are stunned first. All animals slaughtered under the Shechita (for Kosher) are non-stunned.
Just gotta get that 88% up higher toward 100%, of stunning them (ie, obliterating their frontal lobe, I think?)… and also put that step into play for Kosher slaughter as well.
boiled potatoes are barbaric, agree. roasting and frying is the way to go
dumb
Just leave these animals to live their lives however they seem fit. Without unnecessary human interference. As we do have that option.
I.e. prohibit all hunted meats? Then say that. But this is not a practical solution.
Yes.
Start with prohibiting animal farming, then ban animal murder alltogether.
It is the only solution, it is not actually that difficult, and it is an inevitable outcome of human development.
In a few centuries, humans will look at today’s animal explotation the same way we look at cannibalism and slavery.
Im always supriced how many people think huntings only reason is to kill the animalls and eat the carcasses.
There are many places where humans have killed the natural predators for some animals and in those places animal population is in danger to grow uncontrollably spreading disaeses and dangering natures balance even further. Herbivores without carnivores can and will destroy the forest floors and growth if let unchecked, wich can cascade to further destroy enviroment for different species like small mammals, bugs and birds.
Most obvious fix (and best for enviroment) would be introducing the big predators back in the area, wich is very easy to say when you live in a big city and your, children, pets or livelyhood is safe and sound. People dont want wolfs on their backyards any more than people want lions on the streets of NY. Also i dont see much difference for the animal if they get shot by a rifle or tearn down by a pack of predators.
Other solution for protecting the animals would be capturing and shipping hunted animals to wildlive reservois where they could live with the predators without any interactions with humans, but that would again leave the nature where they were transported from in a unbalanced state where for example plants like vines could spread suffocating other plants.
Then there are exotic animal trophy hunting that many people seem to hate. Most places that offer that have chosen the hunted animal preforehand. Like old male lion that are not fertile anymore, but still tries to kill other lions cubs, or elephant that has started to showing extreme aggression. With that money source safaries can fight against illegal poachers and protect endangered animals like black rhinos, while they keep the other animal population healthy. Those animals would need to be killed anyway and if somebody is willing to pay for doing it I dont see how that is bad.
I personally live in rural area. This year wolfs have killed few dogs and livestock like chickens from the yards of my neighbors. Do i wish all the wolfs to be killed? No. Do i wish childrens could walk or bike to school without fear of being attacked. Yes. I have also lost family in accident where moose ran in front of their car. I definedly dont wish for uncontrolled moose population making accidents like that more common.
But i agree with your sentiment that we need to move away from animal farming. Not because reason i personally find naive and childish like “cows are friends” but because its bad for enviroment and we as a humankind are eating meat in our meals more than we need.
Start with prohibiting animal farming, then ban animal murder alltogether
What do you do with livestock animals that make up 62% of all mammals on Earth?
In a few centuries, humans will look at today’s animal explotation the same way we look at cannibalism and slavery.
some already do, but most people who have heard this argument are not convinced of it, so I doubt this is how things will turn out
I really don’t think we’ll ever stop eating animals. We’ve been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years, it’s practically part of our DNA. Why would we stop now? Vegans haven’t made a lot of progress convincing people, that’s for sure
presumably there will be more suitable protein sources when space travel becomes a thing
We’ve done a lot of other awful things since forever: forced child “marriages” (or just sexual abuse before then), child exploitation, some form of slavery, have all been a thing for millenia. And yet many societies now frown upon those, punish the perpetrators and help the victims.
What makes you think this (or other awful shit we still do) will be any different?
All those actions are no more or less “in our DNA” then meat consumption.
And, well, vegans have convinced some non-trivial amount of people, as you can deduce by the fact that many companies put “vegan” stickers on their products, because they think it will increase their profits.
example, violence for entertainment. yes we’ve majorly turned against that which is good. child marriage, also good we got rid of that.
meat for food though, that is in our biology. our bodies need the nutrients that come from meat. we are biologically omnivores. yeah we can try to supplant that, but it’s through an artificial means.
I’m all for it, but i don’t think it’s going to be frowned upon in the future and i don’t think all humans can switch over to a plant based diet tomorrow. vegans are too much caught up in themselves to think of the practicality.
ban animal murder
no such thing.
