I would not be that black and white. The USA has also done a great deal of good things. But ffs Trump and his followers need to get fucked but the rest of the population.
This isn’t the time. People are angry at us and rightfully so. We don’t need to get defensive, we need to get to the work of fixing this country. We need to make sure this never happens again.
Read what was said, think about what that means, then write a reply to what was said. Do not mix some things together in your head and then reply to that stuff.
Question, even if what you’re saying was true, what does it serve in the context of discussing the US military intervention in a sovereign country? Besides legitimating the US and its actions, that is.
You Americans are so delusional. This “America is the best country in the world” nonsense that is drummed into you as schoolchildren is nothing but propaganda. It’s just sad that many people still believe it as adults. For almost everyone on the planet, including Americans, the US primarily brings suffering. Whether directly, as in this current case, in Palestine or countless other military operations, indirectly through the capitalist exploitation of entire countries, trade blockades, economic sanctions, attacks via financial markets, or in the long term through its climate and environmental crimes.
The US will ruthlessly assert its interests (i.e., the interests of the American owner class), regardless of the price that other people, including Americans themselves, have to pay. Meanwhile, anything and anyone who does not submit is threatened. And when nothing else helps, they bring in the military.
My country is also bad. So are many others if not all. But at the top of the list of the most harmful, evil, and worst countries in the world is clearly the US.
Best country in the world – exclusively bad
You see there is a difference? Also, stop assuming things about others you discuss with, you do not know where I am from. Discuss the topic itself instead.
Name one good thing we got from America that couldn’t have been done without them and that somehow balances out their pillaging and murdering around the world.
What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.
The Nazis were defeated by the Soviet Union. Hitler already lost when the Americans arrived. Yes, it would probably have lasted longer, but it’s ridiculous that the US still claims credit for this today. American propaganda, that’s all.
Most US soldiers in the 1940s and 50s thanked and credited the Soviets for dying to help save Europe from Hitler. The saying is “Americans built it, British paid for it, Soviets died for it.”
And now if you say the genuine fact, people think you’re the one who’s a victim to propaganda.
More Soviets died than Americans or British. British paid for the weapons and ships used to win the war. America built the weapons and ships used to win the war.
Saying the the fact that this happened is the fact, not the saying. Context clues.
But it is still misleading. During Stalingrad, the decisive battle of World War II, Lend-Lease accounted for about 5 percent of Soviet production. During the Wehrmacht’s last large-scale offensive operation, the tank battle at Kursk mid 1943, Lend-Lease deliveries were still below 10 percent. It was only later that Lend-Lease accounted for 10-12 percent of military equipment. The only exception here is trucks.
Tanks: Total Soviet production: approx. 105,000, Lend-Lease tanks (USA + UK): approx. 12,000
Aircraft: Soviet production: approx. 135,000, Lend-Lease aircraft: approx. 14,000
Infantry weapons & artillery: Almost exclusively Soviet production
I thought you meant “technological advances”. But yeah, for the sake of argument: Einstein’s genius would’ve been found elsewhere, again and again, perhaps in some slum in India for instance, and the Nazis were mostly beaten by the commies, lol, America just joined at the end because letting them take over Europe would’ve been bad for the power balance for them…
For one who considers life to be sacred (even if you’re not white!), is there anything that is worth American imperialism? The genocide of the natives? The enslavement of Africans? The constant invasions and destabilisation of nations? Certainly not, right? Other countries live okay without having to murder, rape and pillage, even under American control!
No the US is a famous good country with only good intentions, just ask your native american friends or Mexico, but not the Mexico that is now Texas, the part of Mexico that’s still Mexico.
I would not be that black and white. The USA has also done a great deal of good things. But ffs Trump and his followers need to get fucked but the rest of the population.
His only argument is that if you point out America’s flaws your just as bad as maga who uses their flaws to their advantage as making it great again.
Surely he’s not a status quo defender, surely.
Yes, but the foaming-from-the-mouth “it was always exclusively bad” is still rubbish. Just like MAGA rubbish about how all immigrants are rapists.
This isn’t the time. People are angry at us and rightfully so. We don’t need to get defensive, we need to get to the work of fixing this country. We need to make sure this never happens again.
“Hey America is invading a country illegally.”
“Yes, but America is good still, we do good.”
“Name something we did that’s good in the last 26 years?”
“You really can’t think of anything? Ugh, maga expecting me to list things America does well.”
Even when Trump is actively invading a country illegally, Americans still find ways to defend it.
Read what was said, think about what that means, then write a reply to what was said. Do not mix some things together in your head and then reply to that stuff.
Question, even if what you’re saying was true, what does it serve in the context of discussing the US military intervention in a sovereign country? Besides legitimating the US and its actions, that is.
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Nothing, I specifically replied to the comment die to the absurd nature of the “always only bad”. Let me quote, it is a bit up at this point:
As a global south citizen, we never received any “good things” from the USA. Only war and destruction, a century before Trump.
For example?
Is this the level we are at now? That the USA is exclusively bad?
You Americans are so delusional. This “America is the best country in the world” nonsense that is drummed into you as schoolchildren is nothing but propaganda. It’s just sad that many people still believe it as adults. For almost everyone on the planet, including Americans, the US primarily brings suffering. Whether directly, as in this current case, in Palestine or countless other military operations, indirectly through the capitalist exploitation of entire countries, trade blockades, economic sanctions, attacks via financial markets, or in the long term through its climate and environmental crimes.
The US will ruthlessly assert its interests (i.e., the interests of the American owner class), regardless of the price that other people, including Americans themselves, have to pay. Meanwhile, anything and anyone who does not submit is threatened. And when nothing else helps, they bring in the military.
My country is also bad. So are many others if not all. But at the top of the list of the most harmful, evil, and worst countries in the world is clearly the US.
Best country in the world – exclusively bad You see there is a difference? Also, stop assuming things about others you discuss with, you do not know where I am from. Discuss the topic itself instead.
No examples, weird!
I mean it’s hard not to see things that way right now, saying this as an American.
Name five good things America did for the Global South.
Notice how every time he’s asked, he downvotes and says America is good even if he can’t give examples. I’m sure that’s not a coincidence.
Name one good thing we got from America that couldn’t have been done without them and that somehow balances out their pillaging and murdering around the world.
What does “that couldn’t have been done without them” mean? That a different human could have been Einstein if Nazis murdered him? That Japan and Nazis would have eventually been beaten by someone or something else anyway? That is such a broad and hard to define “gotcha” that any argument is useless.
The Nazis were defeated by the Soviet Union. Hitler already lost when the Americans arrived. Yes, it would probably have lasted longer, but it’s ridiculous that the US still claims credit for this today. American propaganda, that’s all.
Most US soldiers in the 1940s and 50s thanked and credited the Soviets for dying to help save Europe from Hitler. The saying is “Americans built it, British paid for it, Soviets died for it.”
And now if you say the genuine fact, people think you’re the one who’s a victim to propaganda.
A saying is not a “genuine fact”
More Soviets died than Americans or British. British paid for the weapons and ships used to win the war. America built the weapons and ships used to win the war.
Saying the the fact that this happened is the fact, not the saying. Context clues.
But it is still misleading. During Stalingrad, the decisive battle of World War II, Lend-Lease accounted for about 5 percent of Soviet production. During the Wehrmacht’s last large-scale offensive operation, the tank battle at Kursk mid 1943, Lend-Lease deliveries were still below 10 percent. It was only later that Lend-Lease accounted for 10-12 percent of military equipment. The only exception here is trucks.
Tanks: Total Soviet production: approx. 105,000, Lend-Lease tanks (USA + UK): approx. 12,000 Aircraft: Soviet production: approx. 135,000, Lend-Lease aircraft: approx. 14,000 Infantry weapons & artillery: Almost exclusively Soviet production
Fair enough! Thanks for being reasonable and not rude. I apologize if I came off as rude.
I thought you meant “technological advances”. But yeah, for the sake of argument: Einstein’s genius would’ve been found elsewhere, again and again, perhaps in some slum in India for instance, and the Nazis were mostly beaten by the commies, lol, America just joined at the end because letting them take over Europe would’ve been bad for the power balance for them…
For one who considers life to be sacred (even if you’re not white!), is there anything that is worth American imperialism? The genocide of the natives? The enslavement of Africans? The constant invasions and destabilisation of nations? Certainly not, right? Other countries live okay without having to murder, rape and pillage, even under American control!
So there is nothing that would not happen without the USA (or anything, anyone) then, when even one of the most unique humans is replaceable?
Maybe nothing is worth all this death and destruction…
Sorry what does that have to do with the absurd “always only bad” we are talking about?
No the US is a famous good country with only good intentions, just ask your native american friends or Mexico, but not the Mexico that is now Texas, the part of Mexico that’s still Mexico.
But America does good things he said. Just ignore all the genocide we do!
Name one good thing, I’ll wait.
Notice he can’t even name one good thing.
I noticed.
I noticed too
Sorry for being so blunt but what is wrong with you? You are the exact equal of a MAGA person shouting how bad all immigrants always are.
As you say America is great and does good while it invades a country that have immigrants coming to “the best in the world”.
You’re closer to maga than I am, I don’t tout my country is good while it steals heads of state.
He’s replying to me but still hasn’t. I’m sure there’s a reason he can’t give one good thing.
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You didn’t name one thing.
PEPFAR
Now answer my questions.
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