The judge cited the Supreme Court’s recent decision establishing parents’ right to opt kids out of LGBTQ+ inclusive lessons.
A Boston judge has ruled in favor of a Massachusetts dad who sued his local school district to ensure his five-year-old son is never exposed to books featuring LGBTQ+ characters.
As the Boston Herald reported, the father, identified in court documents as Alan L., is described as a “devout Christian” who objects to the inclusion of certain children’s books featuring LGBTQ+ characters in the kindergarten curriculum of Joseph Estabrook Elementary School, where his son, identified as J.L., is enrolled.
Religion = denial of reality.
It should be illegal for religious people to indoctrinate children with their religious beliefs.
But in USA they have turned it on its head, and made it illegal to teach the truth because of religious superstition!In Texas, voters just passed a constitutional amendment giving parents the right “to exercise care, custody, and control of the parent’s child, including the right to make decisions concerning the child’s upbringing” specifically for cases like this. Almost everyone I spoke to was in full support of it and kept saying “obviously a parent should decide what’s best for their child”. But as someone who grew up in a toxic religious family, it makes me so sad to see that there’s no protection for kids in these situations. Parents can ensure they’re doomed to a life of ignorance and bigotry before they even have a chance. :(
Legalized child abuse.
Why even have kids if they can’t be warrior-slaves for your crusade?
I see this as a complete parenting fail. It is not your job as a parent to ‘protect’ your child from the world, it is your job to prepare them for it.
That poor kid is gonna need a lot of therapy later in life after he/she moves out on their own.
Dad in the future: “Son, you never call or visit. You’re always so busy.”
Parents like this ultimately hope the child never moves out. It is a cult.
Parents like this hope the child moves out when they graduate high school and get rich so their kid can care for them when they’re old.
That is a very silly take.
Teach them how to think, not what to think.
Doesn’t this open the way for a parent to sue the school over Christian symbolism? A parent could should take that school to court over a Christmas tree.
yes and you know it doesn’t work that way
In Massachusetts it might.
It’s Heads-I-Win and Tails-You-Lose in the Trump-stacked court system.
You’re looking at the judiciary as some kind of impartial machine, but you need to see it as a Vegas Casino, where you can maybe win a hand or two here or there but the game is stacked against you by design.
There is no world in which a conservative court bans Christmas Trees or Crosses or any other Christian iconography, because these courts are run by evangelical Christians for the benefit of evangelical Christians. You might as well ask a Chinese court to remove images of Mao from the classroom or an Iranian court to outlaw the Koran.
I mean yes but also You’re out of touch if you think the judges value internal consistency like that.
Pledge of allegiance should be banned too
Opting-out should just be done away with. I had to deal with that, during school, and 8th grade was my first real exposure to non church kids.
I naturally avoided everything that was obviously gay-ish, just because of how I was brought up. I’m still learning things that I have to unlearn, 25 years later.
It really fucks you up in life, if you’re like me and are an actually decent person that was just raised in the fucked-up cult of Christianity.
The entire process of getting woke was just a constant realization of the huge amount of different kinds of people and ideas I had spent my life shitting on.
I haven’t done anything besides just blind hatred, but given how fucked the process is (of coming out of it), I’ve blacked a lot of it out. Kinda like I blacked out most of the week one of my brothers died. I’ve just kinda put up crime scene tape around memories that hurt too much.
The opt-out thing is only a tiny piece of my trauma, but it did hold me back yet further. And kids will humiliate kids that don’t get to go to the sex ed classes. So beyond getting held back which I only realize the damage of now, at the time, being late to learning about sex was embarrassing, which I did feel immediately.
I get why the option is attractive to super religious and controlling parents, but given that they’re all just blatantly wrong, this option should just be removed from their arsenal. If you want to legally harm your children, that’s what private school (read: religious school) is for.
But public school should not support that choice. If you’re gonna hurt your kids, you better have to pay out the big bucks to do it.
it absolutely does
Christianity has harmed more people that LGBTQ people have. Many types of Christians have to try and save you by converting you. LGBTQ folks aren’t trying to convert you.
Compare the number of Christians convicted of child sex crimes vs the number of LGBTQ+ who have and it paints a pretty one sided picture.
Numbers wouldn’t be meaningful, only percentages.
It would be the same result either way
It would probably be a pretty similar percentage. Plus lots of LGBTQ+ people are also Christians. What would they be counted as?
I bet the numbers per capita are pretty similar.
You’d probably lose that bet
Why do you think that? Is it because of all the news you’ve read about Catholic priests?
What do you think the balance of news was like before that story came out?
The bull hypothesis has got to be that people all have the same base line propensity. The only thing I know that changes it is themselves being abused as children.
Many types of Christians have to try and save you by converting you. LGBTQ folks aren’t trying to convert you.
That’s one motivation behind their behavior. Since they are constantly trying to manipulate people to join them, they assume the gays are recruiting, too.
“The fluoride in the water is making the frogs gay” - one of America’s greatest thinkers /s
It’s not just Christianity. Religion is the excuse to be hateful
I’ve actual heard decades ago people insist that the LGBTQ community was in fact trying to convert people.
Imagine thinking evangelicals aren’t the ones converting people away from a religion of hate, hubris and hypocrisy.
I don’t believe in Christians
Ok, no more Bible. After all eve came from Adam’s rib right?
Now all I can think of is Eve pleasuring herself with a human rib.
New kink unlocked.
Giggity, but is rib just another word for penis?
TBF, everything is another word for penis.
No, it was a pun for “life” in the Sumerian original.
Penis bone, or baculum
It would explain the Mcrib
Yeah, I guess it wouldn’t be a barbecued pork rib, would it?
Pleasure yourself with the all new McDonald’s McRib this Easter.
Some Athiest should sue to get all religious texts banned in that district, using this ruling as direct precedent.
Do you think they read the Bible? (Or read any books at all?)
The average American has a sixth grade reading level and some 14% are functionally illiterate (https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/education/adult-illiteracy-us).
Do you know how hard the bible is to read even as a literate person? Even if they did read it, most wouldn’t know what they were reading.
Correct, either Adam or Eve was canonically trans.
Yeah, so men are giving their own rib. That’s kinda gay. Not that I mind being called gay, even though I’m straight (I tried sucking dick. Twice! Not my thing) 🤓
Amazing they enroll someone in school to not learn things. Devout ignorance.
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Also worshipping a callous, narsiscistic bully lest they torture you for eternity, so it is really weird when people say someone like Trump is unchristian. He’s actually godlike as he appears in the book, no wonder so many fall in line.
Kid is going to have a rude awakening when he runs a web query on his dad and everything that comes up has “gay” in the title.
Dad vs Reality lawsuit incoming.
Your Religion = What YOU can’t do, NOT what I can’t do.
That very much is not what religion is about, in general.
As a Christian, I object to books featuring rich people, people who don’t help poor people, people who don’t heal the sick, and people who are mean to foreigners. Unless the perpetrators of those unChristian acts get their comeuppance, of course. Can I now demand from schools that my kid doesn’t get exposed to those kinds of books?
Ban books that show people wearing clothes with mixed fabrics! Its against mah religion!
Why do fundamentalist Christians choose homosexuality specifically as their hill to die on?
Leviticus 19:19
“You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.”
Deuteronomy 22:11
“You shall not wear cloth of wool and linen mixed together.”
Why do fundamentalist Christians choose homosexuality specifically as their hill to die on?
It’s an easy out-group to identify and target.
With the advantage that the target can’t easily opt out of it. It’s probably fairly easy to stop wearing clothes from a wool/linen mix (although avoiding cotton/polyester might be harder), so your target disappears.
That’s very interesting. So much of culture often comes back to biology or geography. It’s funny how an evolutionary advantageous biological instinct of forming an in-group vs out-group to manage resource scarcity eventually led to fundamentalist Christians hating gays.
This guy is probably one of two types: a) He’s a culture warrior who gets a little thrill if he makes life a bit harder for the gays because he was told they are the enemy or b) he needs to uphold his current cultural zeitgeist because if people are allowed to do the things that make them happy then what’s stopping him from banging his hot neighbor Greg and if he can do that he’s wasted his life married to a person he’s not actually attracted to and it was all a lie. So he goes super hard on being anti-gay to stop those intrusive thoughts. Stay occupied. Don’t think about it. Hate hate hate.
Or c) this parent is a pawn being used by right wing interests.
Ding ding ding
That is when you know you are losing when you have to hide the truth from your kid.
As the Boston Herald reported, the father, identified in court documents as Alan L., is described as a “devout Christian” who objects to the inclusion of certain children’s books featuring LGBTQ+ characters in the kindergarten curriculum of Joseph Estabrook Elementary School, where his son, identified as J.L., is enrolled.
Bigotry ftw
Seems like an ideal candidate for home-schooling, though that’s a shitty thing to do to a kid.
This problem is going to work itself out, as the public school system is being killed off. “Don’t like what your school is teaching? Go somewhere else. It’s a free market. Here’s your voucher.”
Of course this new system will create a whole host of other problems.
