iPhone 15 overheating reports, with temperatures as high as 116F::Widespread reports are circulating about the iPhone 15 overheating, seemingly across all models. Measurements taken with an infrared camera show…
46.6˚C in normal units.
Stupid us units had me thinking there would be fires everywhere for a moment.
F makes more sense for this. It’s 0-100 on a scale of a human feeling too cold to too hot.
In situations where what’s being discussed is touching human skin: weather, a hot phone, water temp, etc… F does give you a quicker idea of things.
That said, downvote me away!
No need to downvote, I can handle someone having a different opinion.
Fahrenheit doesn’t give a shit about human temperature, he based it on some obscure things (which I can’t remember right now). It doesn’t even fit with human temperature, I think human temperature is like 97 or 98 °F or something like that. The argument was made only to have some argument, it’s not a property of Fahrenheit.
It does make exactly as much sense as Celsius with one important distinction - Celsius plays nicely with other SI units.
Seriously, the only correct answer to
how many foot-pounds does it take to heat 1 fl oz of water by 1° Fisfuck you.I don’t mean it’s body temperature. I mean it’s good for describing temperature felt by a human. The weather is a scale of 0 being too cold to 100 being too hot. The typical person never sees temperature outside this range in their weather, but a good bit of the full range.
When describing weather, you don’t care about 213 being boiling temp and converting to SI. In all Other uses, yes, C is better.
Honestly, I get your point, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a property of the scale, rather your increased familiarity with it. When someone says 68F I don’t have a mechanism to understand that, it’s not part of my experience. Saying 68% of too hot doesn’t help much at all. Whereas I can tell you exactly what I 40C feels like; and how that compares to anything from -15C to 45C, because of my familiarity with the scale.
Yes, familiarity with the scale definitely helps. But 50 degrees is halfway between burning up and freezing your ass off. Aka, light jacket weather.
It only gives YOU a quicker idea because you are used to it.
I don’t deny that. But it’s also a well suited 0-100 scale for weather. It’s rare for a native C person to agree. I accept and expect the downvotes because hurr durr usa is dumb. To be clear, C is way better for anything other than things that touch my skin.
What’s this 0-100 scale you’re using? Just a personal comfort gauge that you’re assuming everyone uses? I’m American and it doesn’t even make sense to me. 70ish is room temperature, 98 is body temperature, 32 is freezing. That’s a really weird scale which doesn’t have any nuance to it especially since temperatures reach above 100 or below 0 in a lot of places. Add on that people like different temps and it’s really confusing.
For anyone willing to learn, a lot of devices have conversions from F to C. I have about half of my temp reporting equipment split so I can better understand C since all I personally knew was F. It also helps to have the formula in your head and convert it anytime you see F so you’ll slowly be comfortable knowing both of them. (Fahrenheit - 32) / 1.8 = Celsius, usually just do / 2 for a simpler time: i.e. 72F - 32 = 40 / 2 = 20C (really 22.222C but it gets you in the ballpark at least). It’s even easier to use the formula since 32 is Fahrenheit’s freezing temp so just always minus that away and divide by 2.
Like others have said, Fahrenheit is just easier for us because it’s what we grew up with and learned. It has nothing to do with the actual system besides personal experience. Thinking the “0-100” is a scale that makes sense when the bottom 3/4 is colder than comfortable room temperature is just being irrational.
The average temperature in the continental United States is just over 50 degrees while the extreme highs and lows are 100 and 0. Could make an argument that 0 is a bit too low.
Coincidentally, perhaps, but nonetheless you can’t deny it’s pretty good range for temperature of air in the US.
And if anyone’s wondering that’s 116°F in more normaler units
Edit: it’s a multi layered joke guys chill. Joke is Americans can’t read, the °F is in the title. The other joke is that American grammar is shit
Nearly 320K in the normalest units.
It’s exactly 1 in a new unit I just invented, it’s called 46.6˚C. So it’s 1 46.6˚C. And currently it’s nice 0.3 46.6˚C here.
You talking about 0.028 eV?
That’s 576R in a unit the Jedi wouldn’t tell you.
German actually.
YOU SHUT UP! FAHRENHEIT WAS AN AMERICAN! LIKE GALILEO!
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I loled. Fuck the haters
I thought it was funny. Also my upvote got you to -69
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Lemmy can be pretty hostile to non-European standards. It’s weird… I wonder if Europeans are just using more accounts than Americans, and stacking votes.
If not… Then yikes, if Lemmy is losing the American audience, that’s bad news, friends.
Celsius and Fahrenheit are both European units. It’s just that Fahrenheit is used by less than 5% of the world’s population, so it’s completely reasonable to expect a post title on an international website like this to use Celsius.
To be fair, the Fahrenheit measurement should be pretty intuitive here. Fahrenheit is easy because 0 degrees is “really fucking cold” and 100 degrees is “really fucking hot.” So anything triple-digits should be easily recognizable as “yeah that’s way too fucking hot for a phone.”
This is also why I prefer Fahrenheit to Celsius in general (even though I am an engineer and am not a die-hard patriot or anything like that). It is a more practical scale for everyday usage.
All I know about 100 in Fahrenheit is that the Americans always complain when it gets to it.
Why are Americans so bad at geography 🤦
You do know there’s a world outside of the US and Europe, yeah? Like other places are a thing that exist? And guess what - they all use Celsius!
This isn’t a Europe Vs US thing. This is a US Vs the world thing, with Americans expecting their way to be taken seriously by everyone.
Don’t be surprised when people want to use the actual standard.
It’s an incredibly euro-centric view to think that the rest of the world uses the metric system. Heck, even the UK mixes and matches units contextually. Plenty of global industries apply their own standards.
I’ve never seen an American on the Internet suggest China move from Chi to Feet, for example. Europeans just assume that they use Meters because they’re polite enough to just do the conversion on their end for international trade.
You do realise we’re talking about Celsius here, don’t you?
The UK absolutely uses Celsius, as does the vast majority of the world. To my knowledge it’s just the US and Liberia.
There is nothing Eurocentric about saying Celsius is the standard. There is, however, extreme US-centricity in thinking Fahrenheit is the normal one.
Whats the speed limit on British highways?
Is it miles per hour?
Yes, the UK mainly uses metric but for a few things they use imperial or both. For road signs they’re mostly imperial - what does that have to do with Celsius?
You’re not making yourself look good here by deliberately going off-topic.
Yes, every European has at least 3 lemmy accounts, as required by the European constitution.
There are a lot more Europeans online than Americans (not to mention a few billion internet users on other continents), so when Americans post temperatures exclusively in Fahrenheit it comes across as kinda thoughtlessly parochial.
There are a lot more Europeans online than Americans
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I don’t believe this at all lol
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The audience for this is English speakers. While much of the world reads English non-natively, those people often turn to news source in their native languages. If this article were in French, using Fahrenheit would be silly.
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Most iPhone users are American. This data shows that just a few years ago 43% of iPhones were sold in the US, with Japan in 2nd at 14% and China at 13%. Even adding up the UK, France, Germany, and Australia they combine for 20%, though once again I’d expect French and German articles fod those audiences.
Europeans just can’t handle the fact that colonization is over lol.
'Murika Fuck Yeah
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Lol, second comment this morning I’ve seen someone complaining about their fundamentally incorrect statement is recieving “unfair” hostility…
No, you’re just wrong and people downvoted you because of it
46c… lmfao what a stupid headline.
That is absolutely NOT “hot”or “overheating” for a piece of tech under stress.
The phone housing is the heat sync, and the phone is more powerful than many people’s few year old laptops.
Not to defend apple but this is just trying to sensationalise and farm clicks, my pixel 7 used to get way hotter doing just normal tasks to the point I was getting overheat warnings and the screen would shut off.
Now if it was more like 55c I could see that being an issue at least from a comfort standpoint.
On top of this, pointing a thermal camera as an emissive surface like glass… not the most accurate way to actually get a temperature reading, they should have used a thermal couple… but I’m guessing that would have showed an even less exciting click bait number.
I get where you’re coming from, but just because it isn’t hot when compared to a full throttle desktop CPU doesn’t mean it’s good for a device you hold with your bare hands.
Can you name one other thing in everyday life that you hold for hours on end, that gets 45+°C?
Actually it can pose quite a big problem. There’s no ventilation on phone anywhere and lithium batteries really don’t like heat, at all. In fact that’s just at the top maximum battery can take, so there’s a big chance of thermal runaway at which point whole thing might combust.
Lithium batteries aren’t going to thermal runaway at 46ºc.
Edit: I looked it up. it’s ~66º, so maybe closer for comfort that one would like.
Yup. Not that far from recorded temps. Combine that with leaving phone in car or in direct sunlight and you enter dangerous zone.
iirc iphones at least turn off if overheating so they might just be fine in that regard. sucks to get to your phone in the other room and find it turned off tho ig.
Those situations are best avoided. Fail safes are there to prevent catastrophic failure, but heat does affect things permanently. Your battery life will take a big hit. CPU might not like it, etc.
Please take that common sense elsewhere. Here we don’t defend Apple since this is a general technology community. You are supposed to hate them no matter what. Only if this happens to an Android device, we try our best to understand.
Look here, apple fan boy. You can try to piss and moan whatever way you want, but if you read the article you’d see this was happening while charging or just watching videos and doing “light duty use”. A 116f case is absolutely not normal for that. My three+ year old phone doesn’t even get a bit warm doing any of that. If my phone went over 90f from watching videos I’d be pissed. Apple likely screwed something up on their software side and the processor is spinning its gears hard for little to no reason.
It has also come out that there is a bug in the instagram app from what I’ve been reading.
This is causing a drastic increase in temperature and battery use on all iOS devices running ios17.
This could very well just be some app code bug that is caught in a processing loop.
It also explains why some people are seeing this and others are not, as not everyone is sitting on instagram while their phone is on charge.
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It’s the hottest Apple iPhone yet!!
Just in time for autumn! A hand warmer!
Obviously, you’re holding it wrong
This
But is has TiTaNiUm~
Some context:
http://www.antiscald.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=15
At 116F you would require firm, continuous contact for more than 20 minutes to produce a 2nd degree burn, and over 45 minutes to produce a 3rd degree burn.
So one semi long YouTube video is all it would take to get a burn? And you’d not even need a full length movie to need a trip to the hospital?
I get that these aren’t “instant” burns, but this is still a device people regularly hold for hours a day. And if you don’t realize it’s heating up, you’re likely to notice only when you’re in pain.
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If the temp increase is slow, people don’t realize it’s hot unless they happen to put it down or reposition it.
When my son was younger, he burnt his legs by using a laptop on his lap. It got hot, he didn’t realize.
Same concept as being in the shower and very slowly changing the temp until you’re showering in fully hot/cold water.
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He skipped 1st degree burns. Those would probably take 10 minutes or less.
Yea I think that when something is hot enough to cause burns, even when it takes minutes, I think it’s uncomfortable enough for people to let go way WAY before anything bad happens. If you don’t then you probably need medication for whatever condition ails you
So? My 250€ Motorola also has this feature, they are slacking behind
How long do you figure it’ll take them to make a phone that triggers nuclear fusion? Asking for a friend.
This is a massive problem. It’s not ok for a device which millions of people use to get so hot. This could cause a fire given the right conditions.
I hope this gets reported on the mainstream news so people realise Apple isn’t so great after all.
This is by far not the first time they’ve had hardware issues with their products. I think hardware is their Achilles heel.
Not that I feel sorry for them considering how much they fleece customers on the prices for the devices, repairs, accessories, the amount of times they tell you to get a whole new Mac when all it needs is 1 part etc.
This could cause a fire given the right conditions.
Something tells me it could also cause a fire given the wrong conditions.
(sorry yeah I’ll see myself out)
Good one 🤣
Apples hardware is one of their strengths. By far the best in class in mosts categories they compete in.
You might want to ask Lou Rossman about that, he would beg to differ.
I remember well when I was an apple fan that the unwritten rule was “never buy gen 1 of apple devices because they will have issues. Always wait for gen 2”
The issues with their laptops, especially the main board, is legendary. Then there’s bendgate, antennagate, the cracking of the cases of the white macbooks (which I had) etc
Not a stellar record. Whereas typically we don’t see these issues on PC’s and Android phones. The only big one was the exploding Samsung Note 7, but Samsung recalled them all and cancelled the phone. Unlike Apple who said “you’re holding it wrong” when their antenna design was the real problem.
Many laptop manufactures have terrible hinges, power connectors that break and terrible keyboards. The difference is volume of a single design and media pick up of the issues.
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Tested Genshin and it’s worse at higher temperatures.
This reminds me of the Samsung Phone incident… not as bad as that but it’s just something that popped up in my mind.
Sounds like a really expensive way to keep your coffee warm.
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I’m sure this will likely get addressed shortly with a software update. Curious to see if they throttle the CPU / slow charging a bit.
IMHO, this is always the risk you run with day one hardware and software. Early adopters can get burned. In this case both figuratively and literally.
That said, I’ve been hitting some 15 pros pretty hard and I haven’t noticed any heat issues.
Are Apple fanboys not happy with their magic boxes called “smartphones” that just works? xD
if you want a phone that “just works” BUY A FLIP PHONE
What about A BRICK PHONE???
