• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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        Eh, kind of. Musk is in this weird position where a lot of his wealth is tied up in one company in a way that he really can’t escape from. That’s why he keeps trying to build up XAI into something meaningful. He needs a back up plan for when Tesla’s share price finally collapses. And he can’t sell his stock because any time he does that it triggers an investor panic.

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    Great news, everyone! Turns out being a full fucking Nazi isn’t good for business.

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      Tesla.

      Even before Musk went full mask-off, they only had a single practical vehicle- the Model Y.

      Model S and X are priced like super cars.

      Model 3 is impractical, being a Sedan/Saloon with a fixed rear wall behind the rear seats (it’s not a hatchback)

      Model Y is the only one that’s both practical and mildly affordable (it’s still overpriced) - but you’d be better served by a BYD Atto3 for a third of (~AU$35k) the price and the same build quality.

      (Atto1 is about a quarter of the price AU$24k vs. AU$96k, but it’s not the same build quality, Atto1 is built-to-a-price and that price is low…) (none of the listed prices are drive-away)

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        just a friendly reminder that BYD is heavily subsidized by the Chinese government specifically to provide this edge in competitiveness.

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            A bit more than 3 billion, a fair amount of it from state and local sources. Also, much of not exclusive to Tesla. (though in practice much of it was, simply because for the longest time was the only real EV manufacturer.

            On the other hand, BYD received a bit less than 4 billion in subsidies that were exclusive to BYD.

            The US EV subsidies weren’t about increasing competitiveness on foreign markets, but rather to increase adoption of EV’s domestically. That is untrue of BYD’s subsidies.

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                and how many has BYD accrued and sold? they’re available to BYD every bit as much as Tesla.

                Musk is a nazis, and he profits every second from Tesla. but that doesn’t make BYD the good guys.

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                  AFAIK you can’t get BYD Atto3 in USA or any other ordinary BYD car, because USA won’t allow competition, and has posted steep tariffs on cars from China and EU.
                  So how the fuck would BYD have received carbon credits for 10 years where thy haven’t been able to sell cars in USA?

                  Tesla is every bit as protected and subsidized as any Chinese brand.

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                  BYD actually pay tax though which funds other things. How much has Tesla paid?

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          We no longer have an auto industry in Australia, so BYD can subsidise all they want. Cheaper cars for us.

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        That would just be software bros. They’ve never really been progressive, they just like to vaguely gesture in that direction because they don’t hate gay people enough to fit in with Republicans.

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            Libertarian Police

            I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.

            “Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”

            “What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”

            “Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”

            The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”

            “Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”

            “Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”

            He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”

            “Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”

            I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.

            “Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.

            “Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.

            “Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”

            It didn’t seem like they did.

            “Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”

            Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.

            I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.

            “Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.

            Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.

            “Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.

            I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”

            He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.

            “All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”

            “Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.

            “Because I was afraid.”

            “Afraid?”

            “Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”

            I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.

            “Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”

            He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me.

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          I was this close 🤏 to immigrate to the Silicon Valley in the early 2010s. There’s a good chance I’d still be enjoying licking boot to this day if that happened.

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    Musk’s downgrading from Mars to the moon. He’ll now downgrade from selling Teslas to selling driverless Edsels (which, let’s face it, are a better design than Teslas anyway).

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      They did announce recently that they’re gonna stop making and selling the Model S and Model X and put more emphasis on humanoid robots and AI instead of cars. Everything over there in Muskland seems so terribly chaotic.