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    5 days ago

    Great news, everyone! Turns out being a full fucking Nazi isn’t good for business.

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      Imagine starting your carreer with a publicly nazi dipshit, because he did. Fuck this guy.

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      I mean, people don’t broadly care that much, at least not nearly as much as we hoped. If people were really principled, his fascist support and political involvement wouldn’t have just tanked his whole company but landed him in front a prosecutor.

      But the reality is he just had a slump in sales, which had as much to do with affordable and higher-quality competition as his dumb nazi salute and insufferable tweeting. The installation of nation-wide charging networks basically started the countdown to Tesla’s demise.

      He pushed and launched the first wide-scale, accessible electric car with any level of support and reliability but without actually innovating and continuing to listen to consumers, he was not able to keep up with people’s buying choices and like with everything else in his entire, fetid life, he just stubbornly doubled-down and insisted that people want his janky-ass cars with their flawed touch screens and hidden door handles and death-trap engineering.

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        Eh, kind of. Musk is in this weird position where a lot of his wealth is tied up in one company in a way that he really can’t escape from. That’s why he keeps trying to build up XAI into something meaningful. He needs a back up plan for when Tesla’s share price finally collapses. And he can’t sell his stock because any time he does that it triggers an investor panic.

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    I was a huge fan of Tesla originally. I remember before the roadster, there was all this talk of open sourcing the platform so other manufacturers could build their own EVs.

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    Sadly i think this would be due to cheaper chinese companies competing? We got a shit load a cheap chinese electric cars on the market over here and you dont really see Teslas anymore

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      Probably not as this is talking about North America, where Chinese electric cars are still not widely available. It’s most likely due to Elon, cyber truck, and US relations with Canada.

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      Tesla.

      Even before Musk went full mask-off, they only had a single practical vehicle- the Model Y.

      Model S and X are priced like super cars.

      Model 3 is impractical, being a Sedan/Saloon with a fixed rear wall behind the rear seats (it’s not a hatchback)

      Model Y is the only one that’s both practical and mildly affordable (it’s still overpriced) - but you’d be better served by a BYD Atto3 for a third of (~AU$35k) the price and the same build quality.

      (Atto1 is about a quarter of the price AU$24k vs. AU$96k, but it’s not the same build quality, Atto1 is built-to-a-price and that price is low…) (none of the listed prices are drive-away)

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        just a friendly reminder that BYD is heavily subsidized by the Chinese government specifically to provide this edge in competitiveness.

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            A bit more than 3 billion, a fair amount of it from state and local sources. Also, much of not exclusive to Tesla. (though in practice much of it was, simply because for the longest time was the only real EV manufacturer.

            On the other hand, BYD received a bit less than 4 billion in subsidies that were exclusive to BYD.

            The US EV subsidies weren’t about increasing competitiveness on foreign markets, but rather to increase adoption of EV’s domestically. That is untrue of BYD’s subsidies.

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                and how many has BYD accrued and sold? they’re available to BYD every bit as much as Tesla.

                Musk is a nazis, and he profits every second from Tesla. but that doesn’t make BYD the good guys.

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                  AFAIK you can’t get BYD Atto3 in USA or any other ordinary BYD car, because USA won’t allow competition, and has posted steep tariffs on cars from China and EU.
                  So how the fuck would BYD have received carbon credits for 10 years where thy haven’t been able to sell cars in USA?

                  Tesla is every bit as protected and subsidized as any Chinese brand.

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                  BYD actually pay tax though which funds other things. How much has Tesla paid?

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          We no longer have an auto industry in Australia, so BYD can subsidise all they want. Cheaper cars for us.