“Unremoval of Piracy Communities” https://lemmy.world/post/6018317

This post needs to be updated to reflect the current policy.

Six months later, a new Removal of piracy communities announcement confirmed that these communities had been removed. !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, which was the most popular piracy community, is still inaccessible to lemmy.world users. This is misleading: users see the old post, sign-up, and then find out they cannot access the community.

Please edit the original post to include the new removal announcement.

    • onlinepersona@programming.devEnglish
      39·
      7 days ago

      The strength of the fediverse is exactly this: don’t like what an instance admin is doing? Move to another instance or create your own.

  • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
    531·
    7 days ago

    I had no idea this was a thing. Interesting. I can see from liability why this is not something they dont want to touch, being a general purpose instance.

    I think lemmy/fediverse needs a place where if you try and subscribe to something blocked, you get a post/page explaining why they did the thing. Its going to confuse new users otherwise.

    • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      7 days ago

      IIRC when it was implemented in the first place, it seemed like lemmy.world had actually been contacted by some stakeholder with a DMCA-style request, even though the community was not actually originating on lemmy.world. Explaining how federation worked to lawyers didn’t matter much and with .world at the time becoming one of the larger and more visible instances that seemed like the best way to avoid the headaches. Initially they defederated with dbzer0 entirely before developing a way to block just the community.

      • azuth@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        252·
        7 days ago

        Considering the bullshit spewed by them to justify their ban of pro-Luigi comments, claiming they consulted a lawyer, I doubt this ever happened.

        • Cris@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          7 days ago

          Is it a known thing that they were dishonest about speaking to a lawyer with that situation?

          I’ve been meaning to change instances and find a new home, if it’s known that they lied or mislead their users thats something I’d love to know more about

          • Ænima@lemmy.zipEnglish
            7·
            6 days ago

            I’ve been on a few instances. Was on lemm.ee before owner-fatigue. Joined a couple since, but lemmy.zip felt closer to my old instance than any other. Super transparent admin and one of the reasons I have a monthly donation set up. Got good quality folks here, also!

          • azuth@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            5·
            6 days ago

            They did not admit it. I don’t think anyone could have have proof they didn’t. Only the ridiculousness of their arguments.

  • pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
    5·
    6 days ago

    I didn’t mean this post would make people talk about whole federation and censorship. Looks like we really need to talk about Federation and Censorship

    • pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      so why don’t lemmy.today block them :D

      I’m suprised someone on lemmy.today says that

      • whaleross@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        I’m just speculating, but maybe the owner is in a different country? Not everything is America and even the EU varies somewhat in laws and regulations. Then there is the entire rest of world. And finally different people have their individual morals and stances and what risks they are willing to take for others. Regardless I don’t see any need to bash anybody else over this. Just switch to an instance by your own preference and be done with it. If it is really that important; run an instance of your own, private or public, and deal with it yourself.

        • pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zipOPEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

          It’s not about where is the owner it’s about where is the server and there is hundreds of instances but only lemmy.world did this.

          Just switch to an instance by your own preference and be done with it. If it is really that important; run an instance of your own, private or public, and deal with it yourself.

          Yeah I did but still this don’t justify the outdated “unremoval of Piracy communities” post they should update this

    • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
      12·
      6 days ago

      By law, you cannot host and distribute licensed/copyrighted content, not talk about it. Not even reddit bans piracy related subs. Pretty sure FitGirl (was that the one?) uses a subreddit as official community.

    • Luci@lemmy.caEnglish
      4820·
      7 days ago

      Wait until I tell you about .ml

      Oh wait…. Shit, sorry.

      • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        122·
        7 days ago

        Hi, I am from an instance no one ever seems to talk about and when reading these kinds of threads I am glad I made that choice. 😁

        • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth
          103·
          7 days ago

          To be fair to others less knowledgeable, I’ve seen first hand someone admitting they joined .ml because it was the first/largest server they learned about, not knowing it was a marxist-leninist joint, and they were asking how to transfer their account up on outta there. That was a fun thread lol

          My point is, just like we can’t judge people based on their national origin, we shouldn’t judge people from their home instance. But as a general rule, yeah .ml reeks lol

        • Ænima@lemmy.zipEnglish
          12·
          6 days ago

          In case you aren’t aware, there is a comment chain below the first reply to your comment that adds some light-hearted teasing to your reply. Nothing but love for our German lemmings! ❤️

        • Godric@lemmy.worldEnglish
          92·
          6 days ago

          As nice as those anticommercial ideals are, I generally just see shills that enjoy downplaying Russia’s invasion and justifying Iran’s mass-murdering of protesters out of .ml. Some really, really bizarre cyberstalking weirdos too.

          Might be survivorship bias because only the assholes get noticed, but .ml has a pretty shitty reputation because of them.

          • Shatur@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            5 days ago

            I generally just see shills that enjoy downplaying Russia’s invasion and justifying Iran’s mass-murdering of protesters out of .ml

            From your post on YPTB https://lemmy.ml/post/43198332, I think you’re tend to misinterpret things. Even people from .world pointed it out.

        • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          31·
          6 days ago

          That wall of text could be summarized as “but what about the other guys” without addressing a single criticism.