Zionists are not on the left

Death to America

If you allow people defending a supermasist ideology like zionism than you are a zionist bar simple as that

Ask yourself why they would want to separate the left

Oh, i’m sorry, zionists are leftists now?

Zionism is a settler-colonial ideology which its goal is establishing the state of Israel on the Palestinian’s occupied land.

“If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? […] They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?” — David Ben-Gurion

“You are being invited to help make history. It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor; not Englishmen but Jews… How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.” — Theodore Herzl draft to Cecil Rhodes

Zionism (the belief that Israel has a right to exist) is fundamentally incompatible with leftism. Fighting with zionists isn’t left-wing infighting, it’s punching right.

and who benefits from that.

Leftists do. movements do not need zionist liberals muddying and diluting it until it’s meaningless. “Leftists” who believe Israel has a right to exist are right-wing, and should be fought against with extreme scrutiny.

Calling for death to nations (and their civilians) is a call for genocide. I hope non-extremists can see that.

big fucking emphasis on the parenthesis lmao, because nobody is doing that here. Calling for death to nations is not literal. Death to Israel does not literally mean evaporate each and every Israeli. It means dissolve the state of Israel. The people, imo, can stay. Whether hardline zionists can live without dying of bitterness in a free Palestine is not our problem, it would be their choice.

And, you have not responded to any comments showing zionism is inherently evil, but have made snarky weak edits. Israel has no right to exist, if you don’t agree, fine, but don’t lie through your teeth and say you are anti-zionist or a leftist, because you are objectively not.

Also, “extremist” is just a term centrists/centre liberals use to never want to change anything. No shit most leftists are “extremists”, what, you want to vote our way into socialism? lol

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Notice how the criticisms are based on a fundamental lie: that feddit.org is a zionist instance.

Well, I think this is where the “Nazi Bar” metaphor comes into play. I think its defensible for db0 to clearly say, and they had a debate, provided evidence, etc…, that feddit.org clearly has a Zionist problem. We could argue with their process, evidence etc… but we can’t disagree that they did have a process, provided evidence, etc…

Calling for death to nations (and their civilians) is a call for genocide. I hope non-extremists can see that.

I mean isn’t that the point? Feddit is turning a blind eye to this when it comes from a specific, narrow ideological group. The argument being made is that Feddit is either defending or turning a blind eye to one specific group of people who are ideological advocates for genocide because they do it on behalf of Israel.

And to be clear and I’ve said this elsewhere. I don’t think you leave a Nazi (in this metaphor, Zionists) bar to the Nazis. If you find out that a group of Nazi’s walked into the bar you are in, you collect your group of friends at your table, and you walk over and start a fight. Don’t give them an inch.

I think the argument here is that if you don’t want to be known as a instance supporting genocide and fascism, you have some work to do.

Notice how the criticisms are based on a fundamental lie: that feddit.org is a zionist instance. Without that lie all of the agitators “arguments” crumble to the sad leftist-dividing dust that they are.

“They’re not zionist, they just defend Israel’s right to exist.”

They are zionists and so are you. You’re also a dishonest coward who replies to people through edits and hopes they don’t notice. Death to “Israel” and death to the Federal Republic of Germany.

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Calling for death to nations (and their civilians) is a call for genocide. I hope non-extremists can see that.

Also, as a tip: don’t answer the trolls and agitators. Leave them hanging, screaming into the wind.

You are literally answering me, lmao. Well, not really, you’re actually replying to things I didn’t say.

You’re not a leftist.