If you’re still hanging on to old hardware. Linux is the way to go baby
Windows is so shit. Glad I switched, everything works so much better (and faster) on Linux.
Soooo, supermium, then?
Since most of Lemmy users are Linux fans, this headline sounds nice but is a bit misleading if you read the original post from Mozilla:
How can I get the newest features of Firefox?
If you want to keep your Firefox up to date, with all the latest features and security updates, you need to upgrade your operating system to Windows 10 or higher. In some cases, Microsoft may require newer hardware in order to support the newer operating system. After upgrading, you can easily reinstall Firefox and keep all of your settings.
Or, if your current hardware can’t handle Windows 10 or higher for some reason, you can switch to a Linux-based operating system. The vast majority of Linux distributions come with Firefox as the default browser. Please see the support websites for the version of Linux that you’re interested in.
sounds nice but is a bit misleading
To me it even sounds kind of scary. If they are telling users you need to switch your OS to continue using our app, that is going to isolate users and further decrease user base and market share. And apps that no one uses usually die. So for people who like Firefox, it doesn’t sound so nice. I’m also a Linux user, but I’m not sure if this is a positive way to drive users to Linux. (Thought it does mention windows 10 upgrade hardware requirement limitations, which might be a positive way to drive users to Linux, thanks Microsoft.)
Those versions of windows haven’t had support for years. They shouldn’t even be connected to the internet.
They shouldn’t even be connected to the internet.
Yes. What’s also true is that sometimes they must be. You will disagree until you find the exception.
There’s nothing great about companies dropping support and also keeping the code in-house so we can’t contract out improvements and fixes, but unless we change that we’re stuck in a world where ridiculously expensive hardware either needs an old OS or becomes astoundingly expensive e-waste. And yes, it needs to connect sometimes. And yes, that’s a scary as shit.
Yes. What’s also true is that sometimes they must be. You will disagree until you find the exception.
No, there should never be any reason to connect these versions to the internet.
If you are talking about legacy software in a corporate setting, then a vm should do the trick 99% of the time. If that legacy software needs an internet connection (which is already questionable), then you bridge only the specific port it needs to the connected interface. If that doesn’t work either, then you get a separate PC explicitly for that software and disallow pretty much all other connections.
If you are talking about private use, then the only thing keeping you on a windows version older than 10 is your unwillingness to upgrade. Its understandable, but it doesn’t change the fact that these versions have massive security holes and shouldn’t be used anymore.
What a bad take.
Are you really asking Mozilla to restart supporting Windows XP as well because the web browser is used for some embedded application, too?And so what?
If the user liked Firefox, they will need to switch the OS anyway. Doesnt matter if Apple, MS or Linux. Firefox is present in all them.man I’m facing either needing to get a new pc in THIS market to use 10, or find an entire new professional software workflow to do my job. professional video on Linux isn’t real. hobbysist video sure, but pro video work with partners just isn’t realistic on linux.
this is the first thing that’s actually pushing me hard.
How the hell are you editing video on a PC that can’t even support Windows 10?
Yoy are doing professional video work on a PC old enough that it can’t run Windows 10?
But windoze 10 or 11 are different operating systems then windows 7 or 8.
it was bullshit when they ended support for XP, and now I have to find alternatives on 7!!?
fuck you Mozilla, you just lost a customer!
Calm down, XP was 13 years old when it was retired. It lived a long, happy life. And Windows 7 was released seventeen years ago.
Using either OS in 2026 is extremely dangerous and stupid. Please switch to Linux.
Forgot the /s mate
Funny how often people get downvoted to hell here for posts that are obviously sarcasm.
I don’t get it.
/s stands for sarcasm, which is what I think you wanted to say.
Because its really hard to expect anyone to understand if you are joking or not in text form.
ok, I can’t keep stringing you along because I feel like you’re literally not getting the sarcasm.
yes, it was sarcasm.
no, I didn’t forget it.
still don’t understand? read the meme.
You need to be clear with things like this.
I am literally unable to understand sarcasm.
I understand. I don’t agree, but I understand.
lol how much have you been paying them?
at least $25 a month for the past year!
they won’t get another dime from me, that’s for sure.
if you’re serious pls update your shit it’s time to move on big bro
I run all my systems on XP and 7. I don’t like all this techno AI bullshit.
my whole work laptop is from 2002 and runs XP just fine!
Then upgrade to Linux.
If you’re still using those old and bugged versions then you probably don’t care about unpatched software. Big security issues. Hope no one is using them.
Honestly surprised to learn that they were still supporting 7-8.1 until now.
Microsoft did as well - 8.1 still had ESU support, and as Server 2008 R2 had paid extended support and as it shared a kernel with Vista & 7 you could use those to keep your system updated as well. IIRC both ended January this year.
NGL, I have Win 7 on a Mac that I play old as hell PC games with and FF has been a disaster on it for a long time - to the point where I get most of the downloads of games and the various drivers they need with the macOS install…
Get on Linux anyway. You have no privacy whatsoever on Windows.
However, if you (like me) have to dual-boot, remember that O&O ShutUp can help you easily turn off Windows’ insidious tracking measures and delete Copilot off your system.
I don’t recommend dual-boot on the same disk. Windows likes to fuck up the bootmanager with updates every so often so you can’t boot into linux anymore.
True but it’s an easy fix. If you can set up a dual boot you can fix the boot order.
I would do anything for Firefox to stop making a new audio sink for every tab that plays audio. Of course Chromium lets you have just one sink, so I’m just going to blame Firerox’s implementation of HTML5
The advantage there is that one tab can’t crash the others.
With the list of old Windows vulnerabilities so extensive Firefox could simply just install Linux for users like that.
Most of them (I assume such VMs don’t use browsers) would just click [Agree] and then [Next] a few times, never knowing what was it about, maybe not even noticing any differences.
/s
So, basically Microsoft’s “we know what’s best for you” style? No. Fuck that, no matter the purpose.
I was joking.
I added the “/s” to be extra clear.
I didn’t think of anyone taking that statement seriously (like how wound it even work?).You know there is some dude the thought removing the /s would make that a valid suggestion.
Thought virus’ are real.
New Firefox plugin incoming (“Download more RAM on your Windows 7 machine”).
Apologies. I’ve seen weirder shit proposed recently. 2025 has severely damaged my sensors responsible for detecting irony, sarcasm and satire.
As for “how would it work”: on systems as old as Win 7, it would be trivial to escalate privileges and install all kinds of shit.
I do agree with you, I could have written it significantly better (in my brainhole the notion of a browser/browser dev installing you an OS bcs it would mean less work for them was just funny, but I failed in communicating it).
Also lol, yeah, 2025 did a number on irony/nutty theories/near future predictions. 2026 is no better, like whym there aren’t any HDDs left, what kind of worldwide catastrophe hit Earth & caused that??
The install bit - so getting through admin Win would prob be easy (that was the og joke), then the code would have to partition the disk (ok), install Hannah Montana Linux (ok), but then also reboot to that partition - can that be done without Grub on a primary boot partition or the user accessing BIOS?
can that be done without Grub on a primary boot partition or the user accessing BIOS?
I was assuming you’d just write GRUB onto the primary disk and set Hannah Montana Linux (lol, excellent choice of distro!) as the only boot option (because who needs os-prober and a selection timeout when you’ve got the best of distros on disk, amirite?).
I suppose the most problematic part is the partitioning you handwaved as “ok”. Afair, Windows does not allow for live-resizing of the system partition (as it should). But I suppose there are ways around that, particularly if you’ve got another drive or spare partition of adequate size. (OEM recovery partitions come to mind; as much as 10 GB can be enough for a viable Linux system partition.)
Oh, your are right, I always resized partitions with Knoppix or (something with) GParted (Live).
Perhaps there is a way to use Windows partition without any reformat, reboot into the same partition but in Linux, finish installing the rest of the packages & clean up Windows file.
Using them old OEM partitions is a neat idea too.
I’ll open a ticket with Mozilla.
Hannah Montana, Knoppix… a man of culture I see…
I’ll open a ticket with Mozilla.
…who wants to see the world burn!
I switched to Ubuntu and I regret it. I cannot for the life of me JellyFin to work. That was my main reason for getting a laptop. I use VLC to access media from my laptop to my TV now, but JellyFin was a dream and now I can’t get it to work.
How are you trying to run Jellyfin? What part isn’t working for you?
I have it as a Docker container in Ubuntu and it works perfectly. The only trick was I had to find jellyfin’s internal docker IP address to do the initial Jellyfin server setup steps.
I set it up and the server has no files in it. I log in on the TV and the browser, but I don’t see the files on the TV.
Did you sync your library? It was confusing for the first time for me as well, but Jellyfin requires you to synchronise your library if you add or remove files.
Yeah, I tried that. No luck.
I would guess you have an issue with your docker volume or bind mount then, assuming you built it as a Docker container?
No, honestly I’m not even clear what a docker is.
Then I’m not sure what advice we can give you without knowing more about how you installed it and how the file structure and Jellyfin libraries are linked
Docker is basically similar to a flatpak: you download a package via Docker and it will practically do everything for you, so you only have to take care of the config file, if even needed.
I like this. Do you have a DL link for it?
I haven’t tried Docker Desktop as the other poster mentioned but I use a similar GUI interface called Cosmos Cloud to manage Docker. It integrates a “market” of easily installable docker apps, graphic interface for managing/updating the containers, internal port management and optional reverse proxy/url management for external access, plus a few more advanced features like VPN and OIDC SSO.
It’s probably overkill for just Jellyfin but if you’ve been considering trying out other self-hosted services I highly recommend it.Standalone installation is the way to go: https://cosmos-cloud.io/docs/index/
The easiest way is Docker Desktop, though I myself installed only the docker engine itself, which still was pretty easy to do. I did that because I had a dedicated server with no GUI. It does require to add the reposity though, but the documentation is pretty straightforward to follow.
Files? You pick the media from the library, files are abstracted away.
The files are in the selected folder on my computer. There are no movies on the TV.
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Post your issue on !jellyfin@lemmy.ml. That community is starved for new posts.
I have that instance blocked.
The most active community is !jellyfin@poweruser.forum.
Edit: Also try !selfhosted@lemmy.world, a LOT more people there.
Thank you. I will try here.
Are you sure? It has 105 subscribers and all of 3 posts. (The most recent one was from ~10 months ago)
The latest post is 17 days ago. Looks like another instance defederated from yours.
Ahh, thanks 🙃
Try docker compose rather than locally if you are struggling.
I did try a docker install. I’m not exactly the most savvy Linux user.
Fair enough.
On Linux. Still. Its names like these encouraging people to switch that help the switch along.
If you keep using Windows, you clearly do not care about your privacy at all. You can dual boot, there are no excuses.
Wait, I don’t even know what I’m using, it might be one of those. First they bring in AI without having to opt in, hiding any opt out part, now they quit supporting old windows?
I am afraid if trying to switch to linux it doesn’t work, but I need to. If you can’t download new os software because you deleted windows and the stuff you had didn’t work what are you going to do? My computer doesn’t even take cd’s. Computers sold around 2020 are shit.
now they quit supporting old windows?
That’s not too surprising, since Microsoft stopped supporting it earlier this year.
Not much point supporting an OS the manufacturer no longer updates in any capacity. Similar to how Firefox no longer supports Windows XP or Vista.
You can still use the old version, they’re just not going to bring the newer ones to Windows 7, or fix issues for it.
Most Linux distributions offer a “live CD” experience (does not actually have to be on a CD nowadays; you can use a USB drive). Basically when the computer turns on you tell it to boot off the USB drive instead of the drive in the computer. That way you can try it out on your computer before installing it and see if it works out of the box for you with its defaults. It will probably be a little slower running off a USB drive. I don’t think you can typically install additional programs or save things to the computer (someone more experienced might chime in), but you can try doing basic things like using the web browser or word processor.
So you have no idea which OS you are running? Well, that’s certainly a choice.
I think it’s 7, idk. I know microsoft was trying to get me to upgrade to a newer version for free a couple of years ago and I told them no.
