I’ve been trying to do this, but the best I’ve achieved so far is having certain cords using adapters.
Now enjoy the power brick roulette. My work laptop charger (dell) won’t do anything more than trickle charge anything else (other than my girlfriend’s Mac?!). I had to buy a new brick to get something that appears to charge everything at each devices rated speed.
Being able to charge a laptop from my monitor using the same cable that handles the display output and peripherals is cool though! (But that DOESN’T work on a Mac… It won’t pass the keyboard through!)
“Standards”!
I bought a very small 100w Anker charger that works on everything USB c so far. I don’t carry my dell one anymore.
Really looking forward to my SO upgrading away from their older lightening iPhone, and back to Android, maybe an e/os fairphone (they like the green one).
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I’m still waiting for my EV to charge with USB-C
USB C +++ for extra $$$
Thank God for the EU.
If Apple and the Americans had their way, each of those would use a different proprietary connector.
The Apple who were the first to make an all-usb-c laptop?
Apple caught flak for switching iPhones from the 31-pin connector to Lightning, and obviously didn’t want to repeat the experience sooner than necessary.
I’m going to add Sony to this list.
Oh, there are vanishingly few hardware vendors I hate with a greater burning passion than Sony. Over the span of literal decades, Sony has consistently and systematically found so many ways to piss me off that I will never give them another red cent so long as I live. I will happily pay slightly more money for a slightly inferior version of whatever gadget from somebody else rather than deal with Sony’s bullshit.
Yes, Americans famously love having dozens of different chargers and cables to manage
The reason we should thank the EU is because of this rule. While I cannot guarantee this rule is responsible, the fact that it’s mandated means it’s significantly more economically viable to use the same connector across all regions (including America), and so this rule is the primary factor in the standardization of charging cables.
I know why we have the EU to thank .
If Apple and the Americans had their way, each of those would use a different proprietary connector.
Americans don’t want proprietary connectors. We’re happy to get USB-C, too.
Ah, I misunderstood. I conflated “Americans” (lawmakers) and “Americans” (everyone else).
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When did anyone say the EU created USB-C? They passed legislature that required the mass adoption of it and are the reason Apple had to switch from that stupid lightning connector (and other companies can’t try to make their own), but I don’t see anyone claiming the EU created it.
New chargers and cables = New freedom units to measure stuff with
The USB standard was made by Intel and the USB-C port is based on a port designed by Apple…
Which ‘port designed by Apple’? Apple’s Lightning is quite obviously more sturdy than usb-c, being just a puck with contacts, put into a hole with contacts and without flimsy plastic tongues. However, Lightning is more costly to produce, while afaik USB was always made from cheap sheet metal.
Though you might mean Thunderbolt, since afaik usb-c is made to be able to carry Thunderbolt. Not sure if that involved more than electrical concerns, however.
The moving parts are in the device rather than the cable with Lightning. The tongue on USB-C is required to be deep enough that you can’t torque it with the cable during insertion/removal.
It’s not an obvious comparison, but the mechanical engineers where I work seem to have a mild preference for USB-C
The expensive part of both is that you need a microcontroller in the cable
USB-C also has way more pins for data/power
The EU commision did not decide on USB-C in a vacuum. It looked on already existing stanards and talked to many large electronics manufacturers in order to come to a proposal for USB-C as a universal standard. You are right to point out the role that both Intel and Apple played (Along HP, Microsoft and the USB-IF) in the development of the standard, but you’re missing the forest for the trees, since it was the EU making it a *universal * standard within it’s boarders that means we all use the same standard.
Until a better option becomes available, and then being stuck with just usb c will suck
The laws specified by the EU allow for future technological developments and the advancement of the standard without having to re-write the laws. The law itself includes a mandatory technical review, and allows for new standards to be integrated, and outdated standards to be dropped.
I don’t think governments should be in charge of deciding what’s innovative
History has shown us again and again that corporations can’t behave decently if let to their own device.
I would much rather have the government stiffle innovation if that means that consumer are safe and benefit from said innovation.
I’m not saying don’t regulate.
I would much rather have the government stiffle innovation if that means that consumer are safe and benefit from said innovation.
How can they benefit from innovation that has been stifled?
Stifle wasn’t the right word. Sorry about that, I wrote my comment too fast amd English isn’t my first language.
Innovation isn’t an all or nothing thing.
There is a difference between removing all the red tape and saying “fuck it” and making sure that the said innovation isn’t outright dangerous. If we need to take thing slower to make sure that people aren’t killed directly or indirectly, then so be it.
How can they benefit from innovation that has been stifled?
If the innovation is a more efficient way to stub your toe
Stifled innovation means a loss of competitive advantage.
It’s the lesser evil in this case.
Exactly the sort of thinking that has stagnated Europe in all areas of innovation this century.
It’s not standardized on USB C. It’s standardized on whatever the USB IF standardized on. So when USB D is a think it will eventually switch to that.
No they wouldn’t lol
If Apple had any intention to switch to USB-C on their own, they would’ve done so with the iPhone 7.
They literally did until recently.
Apple would still be using different variants of their crappy connectors for everything, none of which were compatible with anything non-Apple, if not for the EU ruling forcing them not to.
You get hit by a driverless taxi. The monkey paw curls one finger towards its palm.
I’m just chuckling at the thought of a USB-to-CCS converter.
Since some cars can do v2l (vehicle to load) the oppoite is a valid product, a CCS connector to USB C for driving other loads from the cars pack.
Cruise is already dead. We need to kill Tesla before it kills more of us. The rest of the actors in the autonomous vehicles space appear to actually be acting in good faith.
My laptop takes 300w to charge. We aren’t quite there yet with USB-C. It will trickle charge off USB-C though.
I think your laptop may actually be a Mars rover.
Are you running a toaster oven off your laptop?
Is your laptop just a PC you rest on your lap?
Or this fucker on the left:
Jesus Christ
This.
Original commenter: are you using a blender as a laptop?
Blender can be used on a laptop, too. Y’know, the other one.
Now do yourself a favor and buy a good quality cable thats at least 10ft long and rated for 240W. The feeling of having one cable that can charge any of your devices from any seat on your couch is incredible.
I just bought a more beefy laptop and it has a special charger cable because it’s 170W :(
USB PD now supports up to 230W so thats on the manufacturerer being lazy, or the design having elements that are a few years old, since PD recently got that update.
I’m guessing its a lenovo, 170W is one of their bigger bricks.
But the next laptop you have might use the same charger as your ebike, so there’s that.
The spec supports 240W, and there are lots of cables rated at that, but there are still no chargers on the market that can hit 240W.
There are 240w USB C chargers now.
This was the first one with a 240w port, released 6 months ago:
https://de.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-nexode-500w-6-port-gan-desktop-schnell-ladegeraet
And Framework also has one now
Yup, I just bought a Framework and bought their 240w charger.
Granted I bought the 13 not the 16, so it can’t use all of it, but it exists!
Yes, Lenovo!
You’ll find that it’ll work just fine on 100W USB C unless you have a dGPU in which case it really wants the bigboy power brick.
If it makes you feel better, soon there will be adapters from USB PD 3.1 to 230W Lenovo Square sooner or later. And sometimes, older thinkpads with the square and circle connectors have had little kits made to give them USB C charging. Its only a matter of time.
And for what its worth, if it wasn’t gonna be C, Lenovo Square is a good one since I have tons of them knocking about, and eventually so does everyone.
It has a GPU, but it’s helpful to know that I can look out for adaptors, thanks.
I like to be able to have a charger set up in more than one room than can be shared instead of moving chargers around all the time.
Still need it for electric cars and household appliances
Am I the only one who was never bothered by this?
Yes
