I clarify:

Let’s say scientists can’t come up with solutions to global problems, AI gets out of control and turns almost everyone into paperclips during wars, and in the 2040s or 2050s, the surviving people (about a few tens of millions around the world or even less) gradually return to the level of intelligence of their distant ancestors?

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    Let’s say scientists can’t come up with solutions to global problems

    We already have the solution, the French made it in the 1800. We just lack the will to use them again.

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    mad max world is probably likely, or a 4400 type of civilization, where the rich are in thier bougie clean enclaves, while everyone is the devastate mad max style living.

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    I mean…the short is answer is “die” almost certainly from unclean water, for at least 60% of the general western population.

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      Yeah that’s always been my assumption. My retirement plan is essentially to just be eaten by cannibals within about 24 hours of everything going full Mad Max.

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      Yeah if 10’s million survive that’s only 0.1%. Almost all of us are dead in this scenario.

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    As we can see from what is happening in the world today my answer is nothing. We will do nothing and just accept our fate.

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    Our distant ancestors had just as much capacity for learning as we do, they just used it in different ways because that was what the nature of their daily lives demanded. Where we can recognize dozens of brands by their logo alone, they recognized plants by their leaves, useful stones, and scat. Our accumulated knowledge we pass on doesn’t make any one of us any “smarter”. Some of us alive today are not rocket scientists but have the capacity to be, just as there were people thousands of years ago that had that capacity but not the thousands of years of science and engineering that was needed to build on to take that last step and achieve it.

    Solitary living is a luxury made easier by the abundance of technology we have, going it alone in a Stone Age state would be very, very difficult, then and now. Folks who understand things like tool making, agriculture, medicinal plant identification, bushcraft, animal husbandry, hunting/fishing/trap making, and clothing making would have a leg up. Those who have all that and the ability to form small cooperative groups would stand an even greater chance of success. I’d also throw out that despite the rise of digital storage, we have a lot, a lot of printed material in the world. Even if we forget how to read, there’s pictures and illustrations. Kids aren’t raised in isolation, knowledge (even diluted knowledge) gets passed on, and we wouldn’t forget where we once were, and the ruins of civilization would be all around. You’d almost need some sort of sci-fi level disease to wipe all of our minds to get us back to true Stone Age levels of living and prevent us from understanding how scavenged tools could be used. We might forget how to forge steel but we’d keep scavenging it for blades rather than revert to stone.

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    Well given the extinction of more than a half million essential crop species and the previously universal knowledge of farming that occurred in the last century. Expect to die alongside billions of others.

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    I can cook over a wood fire and teach others the same. I can do carpentry with un-powered hand tools to an acceptable level. I am a pretty decent archer. Hopefully I could find a group of survivors who valued those skills over my delicious flesh.

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    The world can support less than 1% of its current population if everyone reverted to a neolithic lifestyle. And countless species would be hunted to extinction during the collapse.

    So in short, the answer to what I would do? Like nearly everyone else, just die. The folks from Sentinel Island will inherit the Earth.

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    I’d become a craftsperson that’s for sure, whatever I end up doing will probably be creative manual labor of some kind - pottery for example, but not limited to. It depends on the situation wherever I’m at in the hypothetical moment.

    Also, as a side hustle I’d be running something like a DnD table. I’d be on a personal quest to reconstruct the rules, I’ll be pretty much asking everyone I meet if they played, what they remember and if they’d be interested in joining my group. I believe with no Internet, tv, or radio, ttrpg would become extremely popular.

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    What would I do? Probably flee the settlements and take my chances as a swamp shaman.

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        Fair point. I guess I will try to invent blacksmithing.

        (not that I think a return to the neolithic is a likely scenario - some knowledge will stick around, regardless of how far we fall in population, resources, and technology)

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        The world would be littered with metal sitting around, rusting away. I don’t see why bruh couldn’t build a kiln, strap a hammer, and make shit.