It did seem like the writers’ only concept of “geek/nerd” was superficially gleaned from only watching other shows and movies about geeks/nerds. Which created basically a show about some of the dumbest “smart” people I’ve ever seen.
I find it a lot more palatable if you assume it’s viewed from penny, as an unreliable narrator. There’s actually a lot more geeky stuff going on under the obvious, but she doesn’t notice it.
I’ll add that the laugh track is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Seinfeld as well. Some of the writing is good but it might as well be called the Jason alexander show.
This show had a character that physically could not speak to women without being intoxicated. I think they eventually created a pharmaceutical drug to resolve this.
EDIT: As for Friends, there was a lot of fat phobia and gay panic.
He eventually got over it, but yeah it was forced and uncomfortable.
Friends I never understood. I didn’t have a problem with most of it. It just… Sucked. It wasn’t good. I had more of a problem with Seinfeld but accepted that it was superior.
That’s the entire premise of ‘Kevin can f**k himself’ essentially spitting in the face of these feckless sitcoms covering shit writing with laughtracks.
The one exception to this is probably MASH. If I recall correctly they didn’t want the laugh track at all, and when it aired in Europe it didn’t have the laugh track and was better for it.
This is the show where simply acknowledging a character owns/owned a NES was the entire punchline of a joke.
It did seem like the writers’ only concept of “geek/nerd” was superficially gleaned from only watching other shows and movies about geeks/nerds. Which created basically a show about some of the dumbest “smart” people I’ve ever seen.
I find it a lot more palatable if you assume it’s viewed from penny, as an unreliable narrator. There’s actually a lot more geeky stuff going on under the obvious, but she doesn’t notice it.
Yeah if you turn off the laugh track this show is terrible, for so many reasons.
Like how Ross from “Friends” is crazy without the laugh track.
Also, Friends just isn’t funny. Every character except Phoebie is bland and unlikable.
I’ll add that the laugh track is doing a lot of heavy lifting for Seinfeld as well. Some of the writing is good but it might as well be called the Jason alexander show.
Phoebe is just annoying and unlikable
They’re all unlikable.
I would hang out with Joey.
Hang out, maybe. Wouldn’t want him as a roommate, though.
I wonder if the big issue is tying their twin to the show Mad About You.
Joey seemed alright, until he moved to LA.
Reminds me of “Kevin can f**k himself” https://youtu.be/q2qGIsOkA64
There’s your problem. Just keep the laugh track on and it stays funny.
Same deal with Friends and also a fair amount of standup.
This show had a character that physically could not speak to women without being intoxicated. I think they eventually created a pharmaceutical drug to resolve this.
EDIT: As for Friends, there was a lot of fat phobia and gay panic.
If I recall, they literally just dropped it one episode and acknowledged it with an “oh well.”
He eventually got over it, but yeah it was forced and uncomfortable.
Friends I never understood. I didn’t have a problem with most of it. It just… Sucked. It wasn’t good. I had more of a problem with Seinfeld but accepted that it was superior.
I’d rethink any opinions you have of Jerry Seinfeld. He thinks the phrase “Free Palestine” is worse than the Holocaust.
Don’t get me wrong, he sucks. But his show was better than friends.
Hard disagree. People still laughing cuz he wore a poofy shirt and it’s not even a cohesive joke. He just wore a shirt. Woopdeefuckindoo.
“Airline food. What is the deal with that?” Why are people laughing?
I’ve read 5 yr olds put together more cohesive story with crayons. Dude was just lazy.
Do you think Larry David is funny?
If your jokes aren’t funny without putting fake forced laughter behind them then they shouldn’t be said.
That’s the entire premise of ‘Kevin can f**k himself’ essentially spitting in the face of these feckless sitcoms covering shit writing with laughtracks.
Well BBT, and every other that has a laugh track, is scripted and edited around it. Removing that will make even the best comedy suck.
The show sucks but removing the canned laughter doesn’t prove anything.
The one exception to this is probably MASH. If I recall correctly they didn’t want the laugh track at all, and when it aired in Europe it didn’t have the laugh track and was better for it.
Not really. When the laughs are removed you just realize it’s racism, sexism, and juvenile jokes all in one.
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