• oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip
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    There is zero charger infrastructure where I live. I realize you can charge at home but I don’t want to rely on just that. I absolutely love the idea but it’s not practical here.

    I have a no charge hybrid which I’m happy with for now. Well almost happy. It’s in my top 3 favorite colors, but not my favorite. 😂

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    15 hours ago

    The main problems in the US in terms of EVs are lack of infrastructure and that car manufacturers keep pushing gigantic inneficient cars.

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      7 hours ago

      No excuse for car manufacturers focussing on high profit models/trims, but …

      I think the infrastructure considerations are overblown. Don’t get me wrong, its very true and this is an appropriate role for the government to coordinate infrastructure buildout, that it’s failing at. But it’s enough to support far more EVs than we have, and for many it’s not the obstacle they think it is

      • there’s a solid percentage of people who own their own home and can charge at home - that should be a no-brainer yet most don’t have EVs yet.
      • most of the us population is within 50 miles of a trip chargers, which, in conjunction with 300 mile ranges, makes road trips doable without too much inconvenience
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        I completely agree with you there.

        However, unfortunately more often than not people focus on the 0.1% of the use case for their car rather than the 99.9% day to say. I think until the infrastructure is ubiquitous and reliable, people tend to think that EVs are not practical.

        That’s wrong, but I feel it gets in the way of people getting them.

        And to be clear, I am an apartment dwelling EV owner that cannot charge at home. The difference is that I don’t live in the YS and can charge literally everywhere I drive to.

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    16 hours ago

    Petrol is still cheap (here it’s over $10 per gallon), and so long as the US continues to severely undertax it, the US (and global) economy is going to keep paying the price.

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      7 hours ago

      True, but spoiled petrolheads are complaint how expensive it is now that it hit $3.49/gal

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    2/3 of Americans still won’t buy them. They love overpaying for overpriced, oversized gas guzzlers. This has all happened before and will probably happen again. This is the country that elects people who want to tear down windmills and solar panels so they can “drill baby drill”.

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    17 hours ago

    I love EVs and still lease one, but they’re horrible for family’s needing to travel thousands of miles to take holiday/vacation or to see family.

    Broke down and literally just sold my Kia EV6 to get a Toyota Highlander Hybrid: zero regrets. There’s still real world use cases for gas cars still.

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      Do you drive all thousands of miles in 1 single session? You the driver needs resting and that’s like the perfect time to charge them back up.

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        We usually drive 400 miles straight without stopping and many times without seeing any civilization.

        Further, most of the Western half of the USA has level 2 charging stations, not level 3 fast charge (L3 chargers exist yes, but are often relegated to areas way out of the way in major cities). So it’s no where close to just ‘taking a break’, it’s sitting there at Maveriks or Love’s or some random Target/walmart for hours next to Fred in his model 3 jacking off to porn while Tony in his Rivian on the other side sleeps.

        Maybe it will be worth it in a decade when EVs can fast charge in under 30 minutes at a station in BFE Wyoming, Nebraska, Montana, South Dakota or Minnesota for example.

        For now however, the entire thing is not exactly advantageous for a family of 5 travelling 3,000 miles twice a year. Especially with young children.

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        I’ve driven over 1,000 miles down the east coast without too much inconvenience.

        It’s not just that people don’t really take as many road trip ps as they claim, but also a lot of them are quite doable. Of course we need a lot more infrastructure, but we do have a usable amount in many places. Of course a lot of geography is underserved, but that’s a small percentage of the population

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          We usually drive 400 miles straight without stopping and many times without seeing any civilization.

          Further, most of the Western half of the USA has level 2 charging stations, not level 3 fast charge. So it’s no where close to just ‘taking a break’, it’s sitting there at Mavericks for hours next to Fred in his model 3 jacking off to porn while Tony in his Rivian on the other side sleeps.

          Maybe it will be worth it in a decade when EVs can fast charge in under 30 minutes at a station in BFE Wyoming, Nebraska, Montana, South Dakota or Minnesota for example.

          For now however, the entire thing is not exactly advantageous for a family of 5 travelling 3,000 miles twice a year. Especially with young children.

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            For sure, infrastructure gets built out over time and least populated areas probably are last. But, pulling numbers out of my ass, if a third of the us has their own house and lives near a city or coast, at least a third of our vehicles could conveniently be EV already, and that number just increases over time

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              I had intended to reply to the person above you and deleted my post. sorry.

              You are absolutely correct in your assessment though. We can travel from Tijuana, Mexico all the way to Canada on the 5 in our remaining EV with no issues actually. Sure, it requires planning where to stop to find a level 3 charger. but it’s doable.

              Traversing the continent laterally is where EVs just fall short currently though and why we opted to get a hybrid.

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        Yeah, I live in the SF Bay Area and we’ve driven our EV to LA and Vegas. The stops are fine.

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    I think hybrids are better because there is no reliance on an external electric source.