Let’s just declare victory after losing!

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    “The full reopening of the Strait is something the Administration is working towards, but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.

    No the fuck they haven’t. He doesn’t even know himself other than whatever Israel said to do, otherwise they’ll release the videos of him raping children.

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      Sure they have - Baby gets what Baby wants. If baby wants the objectives of a war to be Iran sends him a cool fire truck to play with, that’s how he defines “winning” the war that day.

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      You know, I’m not even sure I’ve heard a straight line about what exactly they’re trying to do and what precipitated starting the war.

      There’s been talk about wanting regime change and halting the Iranian nuclear program. But both of those things have been around for what, like 20 years? And the nuclear deal was being worked out over a decade age before trump threw a fit and ripped it up.

      Most wars have a very clear “they did this to us so we have to do this to them in order to secure… blah blah blah.” But with Iran we didn’t really get that. I just woke up one day and the headlines were “surprise, he started another war in the Middle East, checkout this new TikTok trend”

      At least bush had the intelligence to lie about WMDs. Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

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        Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

        I don’t think it’s just because “brown people bad”. I think his goal is to crash the global economy so he and his buddies (controllers) such as Miller, Vought, Kevin Roberts, Thiel, Andreeson, Musk, aka the technofascists (a la Curtis Yarvin), can get their hands in the system from the ground up to extract even more value from everyone and further control pretty much all of society.

        It really sounds crazy, but they are very vocal about it. Please read, save, and share this info from vcinfodocs.

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      When those videos hit the web, everyone will know the people who supported him. We will never let them forget, nor will we let others be ignorant of what they did.

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    Leavitt signaled that Trump may achieve those objectives by mid-April. “The Pentagon has always stated four to six weeks as an estimated timeline for Operation Epic Fury,” Leavitt said in the White House briefing room. “We’re on day 30 today—you do the math.”

    My math says it’s taking y’all a lot longer than you fooled yourselves into thinking.

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      Trump already has lost. There’s a Khomeni in charge of the country who is even more hardline than the last with a long queue of replacements should he get killed, they’ve not surrendered, they’re not negotiating and they’re only letting through ships they choose to. They’re still firing missiles at every Arab nation with a US base in it as well as at Israel. They’re still selling their oil. And now the Iran supported Houtis in Yemen have kicked off too, also lobbing missiles at Israel and threatening closing off the Bab al Mandab Strait which is the access to the Red Sea that’ll cut off access to the western oil pipelines Saudi Arabia has.

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        Hijacking comment to point out that both posters of negative scored comments are 12-13 days old and one of them has a gibberish username. Downvote and move on.

        Edit: Cry more, payroll shills.

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    “but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.”

    What objectives!?

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      Everytime I see shit like this, I immediately lose respect for the journalist writing the article. You can’t just write quotes and not provide any fact checking - especially when it’s so obviously false.

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    Somehow whatever he can’t do, or doesn’t benefit him, magically doesn’t matter! It’s like a superpower!

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    If you spend billions and end up with that path blocked, I don’t think you can say you “won”.

    Of course you can finish the war capitulating or losing too.

    I’m starting to think either Trump or his acolytes don’t really think.

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    Cool we’ve entered the, “I don’t want it anyway” phase of this bullshit. not sure where this places us in the timeline, but we all know the last step is hyping the massive victory of fixing the problem created by the administration.

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    America is good at not admitting they lost a war. Just ask any war since ww2.

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      Ending any war isn’t their goal. We are the single largest arms manufacturer and seller on the planet. Our economy is war. This whole machine supports our pillaging and our governments priority is spending tax dollars for weapons from their clubs companies, then they turn around to the construction side of the club and give their friends contracts to repair everything they destroyed. Wait 20 years and rinse and repeat.

      Mass murder for profit is our country’s legacy.

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        Well, let’s not forget that the US was also fighting against Japan for much of that time. And the invasion of occupied France and of Italy was not on easy mode either.

        And the collapse of the Wehrmacht on the eastern front had as much to do with the Russian winter, failing supply chains due to non-USSR allied bombing of German factories and railways, and Hitler’s interference in military decisions as it did the accomplishments of the glorious Red Army, which for the first year or more of the invasion, was under-equipped and incompetently led. They learned and adapted, but Stalin’s misguided micromanagement and paranoia cost the USSR hundreds of thousands of soldiers’ and civilian lives.

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          Yeah, I’m not trying to glorify the Soviet Union.
          And yes, the USA did do a large part in bringing down Germany.
          But the narrative that America beat Germany and saved the world is incorrect.
          Their factory workers had a bigger part in determining the outcome than their soldiers.

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        Nah? Battle of Stalingrad wasn’t even until 1943, after Operation Torch (N. Africa) had started.

        The UK did more with less. Escorting supply convoys to Russia, fighting in N. Africa and the Middle East, keeping the Wermacht pinned to defending the French coast. You could argue they contained Germany on 3 sides/fronts where Russia only had the one (which was heavily supported by the US/UK).

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    “Great progress has been made ​but, if for any reason a deal is ⁠not shortly reached, which it probably will be, ​and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately ‘Open for ​Business,’ we will conclude our lovely ‘stay’ in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil ​Wells and Kharg Island,” Trump wrote in a ​social media post.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-again-warns-iran-open-strait-hormuz-2026-03-30/

    Hell of a reaction to something that is not vital.

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    The guy throwing military parades for himself capitulates and leaves Europe to clean up the mess. Much Wow

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    TACO Trump Tuesday strikes again. Trump makes threats, those he’s threatening laugh at him, mock him and ignore the deadline, Trump chickens out and tries to make up something else to hide the fact he’s failed.

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      Taco is the dumbest shit I think I’ve seen being pushed as a nick name for him. It’s the cringest most forced bot phrase, of the last decade. I don’t think I can handle being on the planet and reading this garbage anymore.

      Like do people think it’s clever, saying the same thing over and over and over and seeing it over and over and over. Is it supposed to be funny?

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        Pointing out that Trump has no conviction to follow through on anything (Trump Always Chickens Out: TACO) and the irony that’s it’s a taco, from the cuisine of his favorite hated minority, makes it a perfect nickname.

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          Either a psyop to antagonize the pedo, or a bougi out of touch 70 year old from New Hampshire came up with it. Regardless it’s cringe.

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        It’s a great indicator that someone is serially online and rarely talks to others. At one of the protests I went to I brought a TACO themed sign and nobody got it. I had to answer “what does that mean?” sooo many times.

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          Well, why did you do it?

          What are you saying he’s backing out of? do you want him to follow through on all the weird shit he says? Would that be better to you?

          It sounds like it’s a far right psyop- “the libs are calling you a weak scared chicken wimp, show them you’re not.” Is the point to antagonize the old demented man?

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            It is a fact. He never follows through. It’s not a message for him, he literally doesn’t think about what other people say because he’s a narcissist. It’s a message for all the MAGA dorks who think they are so tough with a tough guy leader. It’s pointing out just how weak and pathetic they truly are when challenged in any way.

            As for why I made the sign, I’ve made a lot of signs and I only have so many ideas lol.

            Edit: also I left out a part of the story because I forgot. There was one person who clearly did get the message, and it was a scared little snowflake who rolled up all his windows in his emotional support truck even though he was smoking because he was scared while stopped at a red light next to some people with signs. He stared angrily at me specifically thinking he was being intimidating. I laughed at him and it made him big mad. So I guess in a way the sign worked.

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            I think it’s more a finance bro psyop… “Don’t worry about the shit he’s doing, just keep investing, he’ll give up anyway”

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    Operation taco teusday is a great success. We all agree. Congrats everyone. Wheres that George Bush “Mission Accomplished!” banner? Now that we’ve won lets get our fearsome ICE agents to cover our military’s retreat. *cough I mean victorious tactical redeployment back to the homeland of freedom.

    ICE already have a full set of tactical military gear anyway, and punisher patches and everything. They just need some rubber rafts and a push into the strait to finish the Iranians off. They did so well at the airports, its time to unleash their epic fury. No rules of engagement!

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    He really doesnt understand the global markets are interconnected and prices rising on inputs to American products due to logistics costs are the least of our worries.