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Sahwa@reddthat.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 15 days ago

8 in 10 Europeans don’t trust US, Chinese firms with data

www.politico.eu

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8 in 10 Europeans don’t trust US, Chinese firms with data

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Europe is rolling out measures to keep data local and reduce reliance on foreign tech.
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  • TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com
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    Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?

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      One of them is probably steam lol.

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      Fascists.

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    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      You can trust meeeeeeeee! What’s your first pets maiden name?

    • k0e3@lemmy.ca
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      I think this is the right mentality to have.

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      Data isn’t very valuable if you can’t transmit it.

      At some point you need to trust someone

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    To be fair, I don’t trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: “Where there’s a trough, there will be pigs.” Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.

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      Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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        To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more “competitive” some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it’s just the realpolitik influencing decisions.

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    Don’t kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it’s going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

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      It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

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        It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

        That’s only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there’s a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

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      For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don’t have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

      Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

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        Data control laws to prevent the sale of data not the government use of data.

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          governments often buy data instead of obtaining the necessary warrants, because its easier and more effective. if they can’t buy it, they have to do it the harder way, and the harder way can be made even harder with legislation

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            The us isn’t fond of other countries spying on you either. The state has not relinquished any amount of power or control in my lifetime. Europe caring about privacy is a facade.

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          Its one step better at least

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Boy do I have some news for you. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
        https://youtu.be/Kw96Qh0-rs0 (Gotta use auto-subs)

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      Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.

      At least it’s better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.

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    If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.

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      Don’t trust anyone, not even yourself.

      Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.

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        What’s an ass job? Like, butt stuff?

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          Yes. It’s a shit job. But it’s honest work

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        Full time ass job

        Sounds exhausting.

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          Leaves you utterly pooped.

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      Send it to me. I’ll keep it safe. I promise not to share it.

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        Still a better deal than what all big tech firms offer.

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          One year later: I’m changing the conditions of my promise.

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            Still better. You’ll have to promise to share with 180 partners from the get go just to be close to the same level as them. And then do some chicanery.

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    Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.

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      Me neither, not even myself.

      I forgot my own name. Can somebody tell me where my home is?

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        Try Google it, I’m sure they’ll know.

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    As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.

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      I don’t trust anyone with my data. Regardless of their nationality.

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      Me either, but I also have zero faith in Europe to guard human rights. There are no good guys here.

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    I dont trust the US with my data … or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.

    • w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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      Elon Musk is the middle of that Venn Diagram.

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      Removed by mod

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    I don’t trust politico with my news articles

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    I’m American and don’t trust U.S. firms with data.

    To be clear, I also don’t trust Chinese firms.

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      I use DeepSeek, because I feel it is less nefarious.

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      I don’t trust my own government, and have no reason to trust anyone else at this point, let alone for profit companies. It’s bleak.

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    Good, also don’t trust european firms either, don’t trust any corporations with your data.

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    4/5 of the people i know in the US don’t trust the US.

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      You can make that 6/7 (my wife and I).

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        6 7

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          Black Panther raising his hands with the caption "We don't do that here."

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            You might not, but I do 🤷

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    But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.

    9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.

    9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo

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      I’d say that are a looooot more 😒

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        Yup, probably like >99%

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          Probably more in the realm of 99.999%. Without exaggeration. Some countries even use WhatsApp for government shit.

          So sad, why would anyone freely use WA at all. People use tech without the slightest critique. Pure consumers…

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      Lumo shoutout!

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    At this point how does anyone trust anyone with their data?

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    Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.

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