“Now it’s your time to realize your dreams,” he told graduates. “The timing could not be more perfect.”
My dream is a world without ultracapitalist CEOs.
My dream is that when I search something on the web I get results 100% arranged on relevance with no commercially motivated rearranging of results. I also dream about ad free OSs, but that one came true for me back in 2005 (thanks Linux!).
Well, Linux isn’t totally ad free. Once you use it, you become the ad.
Ngl this is such an underrated comment haha. 😂
I thought linux came out around 1992?
Yeah, but I was still pissing in a hole next to the sandbox back then. :-D I got started in late high school/ early college years, went back to Windows for a year or so, then fully committed to Linux going forward.
Don’t let your dreams stay memes
Now it’s your time to realize that dream, the timing could not be more perfect.
Sounds like a threat.
“These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact,” he added, referring to AI.
Out of context it sounds like a threat, but in connect it just sounds like vacuous CEO-speak, designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.
designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.
Ok, I see why they are so enamored of LLM chat…
I think he meant the people booing are the ones making the threat to Pichai.
In that case, carry on.
“…and live with its consequences.”
That’s why they’re booing, you moron.
What a creepy thing to say. The guy pulling the strings on Ai talking about consequences lol
Someone should Luigi this guy
Although satisfying it wouldn’t really solve anything. They would just elect another CEO. They’re all exactly the same anyway.
You want to really make a change you burn down the data centres, that would really hit them where it hurts.
I mean, they’d run out of people willing to do the things that inspire French revolutionary style ideas eventually. But no, it’s probably not a feasible solution.
Too reactive to really work. Efforts to prevent fuck shits like this from getting into positions of disproportionate privilege and power in the first place are needed. Good luck with that in a capitalist system though.
I’m so tired of hearing reports of what CEOs and billionaires say, as if it was news. These people aren’t smart, they just managed to stay on stop for longest. Quit giving them a platform.
Most CEOs are smart. They’re smart in the corporate politics that keep one in such a position. They’re apparently doing something right in the eyes of the board members, or they’d be fired.
They are not smart in any sense that benefits humanity. The only thing they benefit is themselves.
“The board” is mostly just CEOs of other companies. All they have to do is vote for each others’ absurd compensation packages, no smartness required. It’s a true circlejerk.
Some CEOs I’ve met aren’t smart.
The vast majority that I’ve worked with are deeply analytical, highly intelligent and understand people really well. By any measure they are “very smart”.
But what all CEOs are, like most people who get to that level, is incredibly disciplined and willing to sacrifice almost anything to achieve at work. They work insane hours, at least all the ones I’ve seen.
It’s a nice story that it’s just a lottery and once you’re there you’re somehow in some secret club. The reality, at least as far as I’ve seen it, is very different; it’s about what you’re willing to give up to get there.
By any measure they are “very smart”.
Psychopaths. The word you’re looking for is psychopaths.
Maybe true in general. I’d love to hear about your experiences. I’ve worked closely to four CEOs. Only one of them felt like they treated people as objects. The rest were actually deeply concerned about how other people felt.
how large were those companies?
25000, 55000, 200, 2100 employees.
They own the platforms.
These folks just don’t get it.
Let’s put aside the discussion of whether their enthusiasm for the tech is merited or not, that is beside the point.
A commencement speaker is not there to talk about themselves or their favorite things. They are not there to teach the graduates anything or try to debate with the graduates.
A commencement speaker is there to honor and respect the graduates. To commend them on how far they have come and express optimism for what they will bring to society in the future. To make them feel appreciated for all they have done and are about to do. To feel inspired by what they have accomplished and the possibilities they bring to society. There has been and will be plenty of opportunity to educate, debate, and convince them, but this is not the venue for any of that.
Speaking about how “awesome” AI is and how they should be grateful for it is disrespecting them by failing to let them be the focus of their own graduation.
the “Some of you may die” speech by Lord Farquaad from Shrek would be too on-the-nose, tho.
Also to rouse and inspire them.
“I’m working on a machine that will make you guys redundant, and then I’ll make those booing me see. l’ll make you all see.” is hardly going to do that.
He would be much better off talking about how it was the stuff of science fiction not long ago, and how the graduates would be helping to push humanity forward, and make real, things that were also previously considered impossible.
Some of the talks are also just really bad. I’ve seen a few, and they’re little more than ads, or bragging about a thing the institution is doing that’s unrelated to the graduates themselves. Saw one where the speaker was talking about how the college was using AI for various things. Why even have that in the graduates’ speech?
it’ll be hilarious when all this shitware collapses in on itself under the weight of the actual costs.
And the actual costs are starting to hit https://thenextweb.com/news/microsoft-claude-code-retreat-ai-cost
Yeah, an experienced devops can turn a max claude code subscription into a credible position or two. You give it a directory full of indexed md’s and access to your playbooks and it’s really good at understanding your logs and using saveguarded tools you write for it.
But those data-centers full of the most advanced purposed built machines are expensive AF, and the tech is moving so fast, those boxes from 2 years ago are already too inadequate.
When the seed capital is gone and the ventures all want their payday, the banks aren’t going to foot the bill.
AI is here to stay, but the cutting edge will continue become more exponentially more expensive while still only being incrementally better than humans. Sans some amazing breakthrough, it’ll price itself out the the market.
well put.
my only question is how many years of this shit will we need to survive until they realize: there’s no such thing as a free lunch? yeah, you can get agentic systems working with accuracy and precision, but will it ever be a panacea to dev costs that justify the trillions - TRILLIONS - of dollars invested for the paltry billions of profit?
how many years of this shit will we need to survive
That’s largely dependent on the “trillionaires” negotiation with the banks. Some of the data centers are already having trouble getting funded.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers. They’re only building them because of the huge return on investment, tax them in real time on what that return looks like. I think a state and federal tax rate above 40% would greatly slow down this bullshit and get some stuff paid for that we actually need. No hiding behind ‘losses’. That Equipment gets taxed locally at market value and the warehouse+water+electric hookups are taxed at such rates that the utilities can expand what is necessary without fucking over the residents.
FWIW, if you REALLY want this shit to stop, push legislation to tax the fuck out of the data centers.
fuckin’a
while still only being incrementally better than humans
That’s only true in some extremely rare use cases.
It’s not better by default, at least for now. It’s better at writing than most of the US’s 5th grade adult reading comprehension levels. It’s better at logo design than your average coder. It’s not better than a trained craft person, but it’s often faster. You do have to be really careful to either give it tools that can’t fuck things up, or super carefull in reading what it’s asking you if it can do.
If you give Claude code a manual, it’s shockingly adept at following instructions at speed. Take this license file from my email and update my perforce server. Use my Ansible in /projects/Ansible to connect to it.
Can I read that file?
Can I read that Ansible inventory?
Can I run this Ansible command to find the install folder?
Can I run this Ansible command to copy the file?
Can I run this Ansible command to backup the existing file?
Can I run this Ansible command to install the license?
Can I run this Ansible command to verify the install worked?Done.
It’s not hard, but it’s only once a year, and hell if I remember the ins and outs of 1:10000 tasks
From the banchode who had uBlock Origin killed from running on regular Chrome 150 because he thinks it’s killing his profit from ads.
https://github.com/w3c/webextensions/issues/1000
r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1tlkaaw/goodbye_chrome_version_150_removes_the/
And of course throwing in AI shite into Chrome with that awfully huge 4gb unwanted addition.
LLMs are really good at avoiding direct answers and spitting out words in sensible order that has absolutely no meanings.
You know who’s also good at it? CEOs. Replace CEOS.
LLMs are really good at avoiding direct answers and spitting out words in sensible order that has absolutely no meanings.
Spoken like someone who has never used one. I guess this is the place where you can make laughably indefensible comments as long as it fits the vibe.
Well, they’re undeniably good at it. Not saying that it’s the only thing they do or they’re good at.
I can see how LLMs can read better than you, for instance.
should replace CEOs with AI. They already talk like it anyway 🤷♂️
If you ask AI models to hallucinate what it would do as CEO, they usually say things that are environment and worker friendly, so it would be an improvement. Of course, they would train the CEO AI with nothing but Henry Ford speeches and books about the grindset.
I can definitely see LLM board members existing. They should already be gutting the PowerPoint filter management layer
Why do these colleges keep inviting these chucklefucks to speak to the various student bodies that clearly hate them? Humiliation tour or something? Or are they all completely up their own asses?
Why do these colleges keep inviting these chucklefucks to speak to the various student bodies that clearly hate them?
Because the universities are, themselves, riddled with patronage and graft. The privatization of the University systems has turned a lot of these schools into mere extensions of this or that corporate campus. And so the CEOs treat the student body like interns.
It’s the next step of their indoctrination into corporate wage slaves. They were just convinced to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a half-assed degree, and now you have to set them up for the frustration of either having a terrible entry level grunt job, or no job at all.
So you send in a Captain of Industry to encourage them to enthusiastically apply their noses to the grindstone in order to reach their dreams of success.
Except people are starting to catch on to the scam, and are letting them know.
American university to just weird. The university of my hometown tends to get speakers who would you would be excited to meet in the street. They had Patrick Stewart once, everyone was totally fine with him.
To influence their careers.
I love how butthurt these people get when faced with criticism. Like fucking toddlers
It’s a natural consequence of our society which divides people into teams without any room for discourse in between. The team you’re on is always right 100% of the time, and the opposing team is full of utter and complete evil morons.
CEOs are objectively utter and complete evil morons, though.
I look forward to AI slop making the next group of senior software engineers make complete crap because they have no idea what good software actually is.
There’s going to be another market for consultants cleaning up these moron’s mess once again.
Well, think of the bigger picture. After 3-4 generations, there won’t even BE consultants to clean up the mess. No one will know how to code at all. It’s ALL going to be AI.
There will be consultants. Most will be charlatans with an LLM, but there will always be a small number of people who learn the craft because they’re interested… and they will command high salaries by those who understand quality engineering.
It’s not like this is the first time our society has done this. We did it to textiles, then we did it to farming in general.
The difference here is that automation of thought is what’s being promised, but that’s not what’s being delivered. But then, for many of its applications, real thought was never needed in the first place.
Anyway, back to my actual point: manual software development will become a niche hobby like using a hand loom. The skills will survive, but more as a curiosity than a common career path.
I hope I’m wrong, but it all depends on how long it takes the bubble to burst. If the LLM companies get a critical mass of dependence before it does, this will be the result.
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They hate it. Keep doing it.
Fucking delusional. I’m betting their “AI” will never live up to the promises, good or bad.
It’s all hype to keep investors pouring in money in the hopes that the endless stream of money can fund the development of what they promise and tell us to fear.
It’s a classic scam. “Big return, we promise. We’ll strike oil soon, we just need more money.”
