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Am I missing something?
Nothing in the article itself suggests that we know what happened to the dog after it was stolen other than the headline.
The article just ends after this part:
Guo cut short his trip and rushed back to China to search for him.
Checking the archive didn’t turn up any more of the article.
I think the rest of the article is locked behind javascript, there was a fade and a button to load the rest of the article.
How strange, since I don’t see any button at all. It’s just the end of the page and the footer for me.
Same for me with noscript
I’m sorry but this line is so absurd i can’t stop laughing
Anyway, this is a matter on the levels of disable someone
That’s just Doomslayer.
Maybe just stop eating dogs eh?
expand that to all animals and you’re really on to something
You say that like plants don’t die when we eat them too
There’s a massive difference of plants growing in fields and being cut down to animals being kept in their own shit where they can’t even turn around for years.
Oh and you know what kills more plants? It being grown for animal feed.
- yeah, plants can’t run or cry.
- i’m not tryna save anything. Fuck this planet. Stop trying to moralize killing to eat, it’s a fraught endeavour. Precisely the sort of first error that lets you generalize to inter human exploitation.
i’m not tryna save anything. Fuck this planet.
Then fuck right off these discussions. That’s right, you heard me. If you hate this planet so much then seek help or at least don’t get in the way of people who care.
Don’t waste your time and I’m sure we’ll have nothing to speak about.
So if they’re kept in an open field with plenty of space to roam about it’s fine right?
get real
genius.
Not to mention how much agriculture itself kills wildlife
What’s the majority of agricultural land used for again? Oh right, cattle feed and grazing.
Actually yea, I forgot that
Just as valid as eating a pig.
(However valid you think that is)
Depends on how you view the food chain. If you’re against eating mean for environmental reasons, carnivores are much more unethical then eating herbivores.
I’ve never understood the idea of farming carnivores for meat because of how much more costly the process must be.
Dogs can live fine on a vegetarian diet, and pigs will happily eat meat or predate. They’re both highly social omnivores. Most likely, they get the same kind of food when farmed, too.
The comparison gets more difficult to prove with cows, and a lot more difficult for chickens. But, a pig is almost the same animal ecologically, and people have pet pigs that live in their house just like a dog.
People typically don’t eat their pets. Regardless if dog or pig.
OP didn’t say “your dog” or “a pet dog”, they said “dogs”.
This hits close to home since my dog actually escaped the Chinese meat market. As far as I’m aware it’s actually a big problem over there. They were owned by an (assuming) wealthy family then stolen and sold. They were part of the batch that were seized / stolen back (tbh I’m fuzzy on the details). We’ve since given her a happy life and a family, but I feel a little morbid that fate could’ve swayed the other way and they would’ve been someone’s dinner.
do you eat any other animals?
Really? Not John Wick?
The article title and body don’t match in the amount of the sale:
sold for US$25
He was later told that Chutou had been sold to a dog meat restaurant for 180 yuan (US$27) and the pet had been eaten.
I mean, not that it’s that far off, but seems odd to have an article where the two don’t match.
180 yuan right now is $26.59. Given the headline only reports the conversion which changes, it’s arguably better to round it as they did to convey a general point rather than the exact specific amount of dollars.
Edit: Looking at it now, the conversion rate seems reasonably stable, so I wonder if they still rounded it just for simplicity’s sake.
Should have sold the dog as a pet. Previous owner paid $300USD for him.
Welcome to China’s huge gap between cities and some rural areas. Where the parents (from where the dog was stolen) live, there may not have been a market for a pet.
But restaurants have needs all the time.
What the actual …… 😕
I hope he shared which restaurant the dog was sold to. I suspect the place would be burnt to the ground.
Nah Chinese don’t care about animal rights in any capacity. Unless it’s a Panda - then you need a lease.
They do when it’s a pet.
Maybe china should focus its governmental might on stopping illegal meat butchers instead of stopping gay people from using public spaces.
A) It’s not illegal. It’s a dog, it’s a valid meat source in most regions of the world.
B) You’re severely misunderstanding (or were made to misunderstand) China’s LGBT stance. You can be gay in public (hell Chongqing would be under martial law if that were illegal), you cannot make pornography. That’s the only rule, and that also applies to straight content. The only LGBT crackdowns that have happened have been porn crack downs that happened to include, not specifically target just include, LGBT content creators.
There’s more openly gay people in China than there are gay people in the entire Western world bro.
China treats LGBT folks equally to cishets.
Looks inside
No gay marriage
So the definition of systemic homophobia. Not even the bare minimum.
No, they can just legally join in partnership and have all of the same government incentives as married people… They just don’t call it marriage since marriage is for incentivizing procreation.
People would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
https://legalclarity.org/is-gay-marriage-legal-in-china-rights-and-options/
And let’s live in the alternate reality you’re talking about for a minute. Can two straight people get married in China with no intention of procreation? Can two gay people get married if they’re planning to adopt? Can they even adopt? Come on man, I get being wrong, but don’t double down on it.
And let’s live in the alternate reality you’re talking about for a minute
We’ve been in reality for quite a bit.
Can two straight people get married in China with no intention of procreation?
It’d be really, really weird culturally and a huge risk most aren’t willing to take. Also if you’re a straight foreigner marrying a chinese national your application will almost certainly be denied if you state you’re not willing to have kids, since that’ll be seen as a fake marriage trying to gain Chinese spousal residency.
Can two gay people get married if they’re planning to adopt?
Since they can enter into a mutual guardianship and adopt yes? You people get tripped up on the word ‘Marriage’ way too much. A rephrasing would be can two gay people cohabitate, share full financial resources, get tax breaks, and adopt? Sure. Can they get ‘married’? No. The difference is entirely without substance at this point, but because Stalin was so incredibly anti-gay, we’re still suffering through the lasting ‘but that’s not the right way’ nonsense cultural war he started so you can’t call it marriage.
Can they even adopt?
Yes.
Come on man, I get being wrong, but don’t double down on it.
I live here half the year, dumbass. You are objectively the incorrect one, in anything you say about China.
Would two gay men in guardianship refer to each other as their ‘husband’ (i.e. the word that a heterosexual couple would use), or is there a different word for it? Not trying to be argumentative just curious how closely guardianship is culturally associated with marriage.
It entirely depends on the couple and region, 老公 (basically husband, most commonly heard between long time girlfriends to their boyfriends) is common enough to count, but 情人 can and is also used, which is closer to ‘lover’ but is used for any type of close intimate relationship including cishet married couples.
you cannot make pornography. That’s the only rule
Nope, that’s categorically false in every possible way, even if we’re being pedantic. For the sake of informing those who might have been misled by this (since I have little doubt you’re being intentionally disingenuous
as campists often are) Here’s a couple relevant excerpts from the Wikipedia article on LGBTQ rights in China:[LGBTQ] people in the People’s Republic of China (PRC) face legal and social challenges that are not experienced by non-LGBTQ residents. While both male and female same-sex sexual activity are legal, same-sex couples are currently unable to marry or adopt, and households headed by such couples are ineligible for the same legal protections available to heterosexual couples. No explicit anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQ people are present in its legal system, nor do hate crime laws cover sexual orientation or gender identity.
Under Chinese Communist Party (CCP) general secretary Xi Jinping, LGBTQ venues and events have been forced to shut and LGBTQ rights activists have become subject to greater scrutiny by the country’s system of mass surveillance. The CCP increasingly considers LGBTQ advocacy the work of "foreign forces”. LGBTQ content is censored. Authors of boys’ love works are routinely arrested and criminally prosecuted.
Yup this underlines what i meant very well, especially the excerpt from wikipedia.
I already addressed this but good try little buddy. I hope they’re giving you overtime pay.
You didn’t, silly. You said being gay isn’t illegal, which sure, is conditionally true, but neither was being a free black person in post-slavery America, and yet we hopefully both know how that demographic was treated then, if not even now.
Besides, my goal isn’t to address something you did before me, but to point out how, intentionally or not, you’re leaving out very important info that lays out the mis-or-disinformative nature of your point. You can’t talk about the quality of a book if you’ve only read a single chapter.
Anyway, feel free to continue implying something along the lines of me being on the payroll of the all-powerful capitalist oligarchs of the world or something. It’ll really help your point.
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Facts. Hmm… no getting around them sometimes?
Feel free to engage with the conversation if you believe that any of my counter claims are wrong. Breaking community and lemmy.world global rules isn’t a smart way to do that.
Claims made:
Dog meat isn’t illegal, except in some provinces.
Being LGBT publicly isn’t illegal.
Which also includes linked to the claims about Chongqing, since it’s incredibly well known (along with Chengdu, of course.)
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you didn’t say “except in some provinces”, therefore your first little white lie
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North Korea allows voting, and in the USA it’s legal to criticize Trump in front of ICE. Most people will get the point I’m making with that, but I’m sure it’ll go over your head.
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“except in some regions of the world” covers that in my opinion, and honestly I forgot that foreigners pressured the local governments in a couple of places to ban dog meat after covid. This covers less than 10% of the Chinese population, and isn’t relevant to the story, but at least this is an actual criticism this time. Congrats.
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Except unlike your Trump example, I’ve actually provided evidence the propaganda your masters told you to believe is wrong. The ban is on pornography. Yes China had an anti-lgbt period that it’s still getting over in the public consciousness, which is a serious topic that needs actual nuance and good faith attempts at understanding to discuss, and I’m happy to go into that to educate you if you would like as it’s actually super interesting. What does not happen is the boogeyman tracking down gay people in their own homes doing gay things.
The official stance held by the central government and all city and province governments is “gay people are people, why discriminate like the west does”
Lol I like how you completely ignored I mentioned North Korea too. Guess it’s because it’s also Tankie land
Because it’s not relevant to this or any other discussion and we’ll never agree on anything related to North Korea if you cannot even accept easily verifiable facts that go against your owners’ narrative on China.
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Eating Dog? In modern day China?
searches
https://www.humaneworld.org/en/campaign/ending-chinas-dog-and-cat-meat-trades
Globally, an estimated 20 million dogs and 6 million cats are slaughtered annually for human consumption. Of these, approximately 10 million dogs and 4 million cats are killed each year in China alone.
Sounds like it.
Eating dog is very mild compared to Virgin Boy Eggs
I got permabanned for discrimination towards China when I replied to a post about weird Chinese food saying that they’re pretty weird when it comes to food together with that link.
So dog meat is affordable?
looks at my cockapoo
You already own the cockapoo, so only you can say how affordable its meat is
My lab was $500. Discount doggy. But his alive value is immeasurable.
Rupert† was only $60. But we have fed him for something like 8 years. So that’s a pretty large investment for a meal. And if you see my posts over on c/cooking you will know that I am always calculating the cost of a meal.
Your lab has a lot more than $500 in them. Don’t undervalue them. I don’t think lab is suitable for breakfast, lunch or brunch. Have people over for dinner and charge a reasonable amount.
† aka I wasn’t letting my wife make him Giles.
This comment, hopefully, is solidly sarcasm.
There still exist absolute traditionalist peasantry, unbending even during Mao and the Cultural Revolution, and even unchanged by how much money they earn, where they still maintain their own culture and habits, which includes consuming certain animals for their supposed medicinal and libidinous properties. Yeah, to those people, a dog is a dog that can be killed for dinner as livestock… and washed down with beer.
It is a fair enough opinion to have. A dog is a dog, meat is meat.
