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    Reminds me of Google glass or whatever it was called. It’s not that people aren’t ready, it’s just a bad idea

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          I used to support the Glass team at Google. I felt so bad watching them destroy the team after Sergey influence plummeted after he was caught cheating. They just slowly moved everyone to different projects. They had super stars on that team.

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      It’s annoying how tech bros phrase products and services so that you don’t get to say no, it’s something like not right now or people aren’t ready. Lots of stuff from pop ups for OneDrive in windows to press releases about Google glass. It’s fascist.

      No your product or service is unwanted and no means no.

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      True AR? Absolutely not a bad idea, are you kidding me?

      Take out the ability to record stealthily and they’re a great idea. Overlay art on walls, place monitors in your real space, do work on a laptop with the screen off, put directions in the actual world so you’re not looking at a screen, and that just what I can think of off the top of my head.

      Don’t let the tech conglomerates ruin an amazing tech concept.

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      The problem with Google Glass is that had a form factor which limited what could be done. On top of that it was a beta product and you technically needed to be a developer with I think C language knowledge to be allowed to purchase one. Even if you could buy it the device was like $1,000+ because it wasn’t a consumer ready model.

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        Yeah the idea was so bad Apple stopped developing future Apple Vision products and pivoted to release an affordable alternative.

        This thread seems to have a whole lot of hopefulness and not much actual data they are going off. If Apple actually launches a good usable pair for a decent price, it will all become “I wish manufacturers never made these” and people yelling pervert at someone on the street will result in them getting sued/arrested/baker acted.

        It’s been 12 years since glass went public, I have to imagine someone figured out decent ways to work the upgrades in hardware since into them.

        2013 version: 45nm Chip made by Texas instruments.

        Any chip from 2026/7 will run laps around it

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        that make sense, why i only saw one person in public once using, so they had to be a tech dev. in any cause it was still considered as a perv glass too, because you could watch porn on it.

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      Bad enough that Tesla’s are mobile surveillance nodes. Definitely don’t need cameras going indoors everywhere too.

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      By “not ready,” they mean, “not complacent enough.” Fuck the tech bros.

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      i remember that, the first news of it was it was being used to WATCH PORN. and then i saw a person in a subway once with it, it looks silly and kinda perverty.

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      Did you know tubing cutters are cheap, portable, and silent in their operation?

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      Sure, but this is an international thing, Flock is US only. And it’s completely expected to see comments about something US specific written like it’s a global thing (or that nothing outside the US exists) because that’s fucking always the case.
      The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.

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        The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.

        Your comment says way more about you than you comprehend and your assumptions about all Americans are laughable. Having a bad day, are we? Maybe you should call your mum.

        You should fly yourself and your asshole attitude back to Reddit, find the rest of your miserable flock and claim victory, that is if they don’t ignore your sorry ass there too.

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      Unfortunately, this has a habit of becoming a self-reinforcing need for authoritarian policing.

      “Flock camera destruction” becomes the rationale for more cameras and more cops and more draconian punishments. And this cycle continues so long as the public continues to send up corporate shills and industry hacks to fill the municipal offices.

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        Oh good to know. I guess we’ll just have to stick with the alternative. Do nothing and watch it happen anyway.

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          No, you have to go after the local politicians who keep approving these systems. Electorally of course, you psychos. Your local city council rep is going to feel much more pressure from an angry letter from a voter than your senator would.

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            Electorally of course, you psychos.

            Or not, if push really comes to shove.

            But you do have to recognize that you can’t just break the fascade of the machine to get it to stop working.

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              This is probably one of the few issues you could really get grass roots bipartisan support on these days. It would have to be marketed right though. Maybe something like “DEI cameras”, or “6G posts”.

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              Yes? The reason shit you don’t like happens is because you refuse to a participate, you fucking dunce.

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              Ignore the vote! If we don’t vote, it delegitimizes the election and then the local government will be forced to ignore everyone that stayed home and still do the awful thing anyway because the winner is an open fascist.

              Much better alternative!

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          Or you could try to make ACTUAL change, instead of throwing temper tantrums like a child and encouraging others to get themselves in legal trouble that would affect the rest of their lives.

          How many have you destroyed? Let me guess. Zero. Another internet tough guy who others to take the hit.

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    “I saw all these comments about if you wear those glasses you’re basically a predator or a creep, and I was like, ‘Oh, maybe it’s not a good idea to have those,’” said Kujawa. "I didn’t really think that through all the way… there are a lot of times where it’s not appropriate to wear cameras on your face."

    Words to live by.

    CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.

    Sure, Jan.

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      CEO Mark Zuckerberg remains convinced that smart glasses will eventually replace the smartphone.

      Just a regular reminder that facebook has a massive child sex material trade problem, that they’ve actively done nothing to prevent, but they have called police on reporters reporting on it.

      So Zuckerberg wanting his creepnology on every face, in every bathroom, hospital, etc, while he gets a copy of every video, is very much in character

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        Well, yeah. It starts with people sharing “just family photos,” and the monsters make it a cesspool.

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          So…

          I inherited my grandmother’s house. I’m a heterosexual bachelor, I don’t give a shit about decoration, so the automotive tools and 3D printing detritus, house cat, and electronics shit from about waist down are mine, the artwork and curtains and shit at chest level and above are still my grandmother’s.

          Included in this is one of those “one large frame full of a bunch of individual family photos” things that ceased to be manufactured during Dubya’s first term. In it is a picture of a bunch of relatives of mine hanging out in a back yard, the last of whom died last month, a black and white photo of my father when he was 7, a dageurrotype of my great grandfather’s first wedding…

          And a polaroid of me, age 2, scrote ass naked, riding Bradley. Who the fuck is Bradley. So, while I was a fetus, my family went to a state fair. My father decided to stop at the carnie section to play ring toss. My hilariously pregnant 5 foot tall mother wanted to play too. So Dad gave her a fistful of rings. And she got one. As my dad tells it, the second my mama cheered, that carnie took the rest of those rings from my father, chucked them in a different, empty basket presumably to inspect them to make sure they are in fact smaller than the neck of the bottles, and begrudgingly told her to pick out one of the hilariously huge stuffed animals on display, and she picked a life-size tiger. On the way back out of the fair, my family walked past a National guard exhibit, including several tanks and armored vehicles. My grandmother, the idiot that decided to carpet my bathroom, noticed the sign next to a particularly large tank-like machine said “Bradley Fighting Vehicle” and she said “Oh how cute, they named it.” And lo the 6 foot long polyester tiger was named Bradley.

          Three years later, I got out of a bath tub, and before some toddler sized tighty-whiteys happened I mounted that very tiger like a horse, which amused my father enough to go get the family Instamatic. My grandmother ended up owning the resulting photograph, time makes corpses of us all, I inherited my grandmother’s estate to include a 37 year old picture of my own dick.

          So when I build my drinks cabinet intended to go on that wall, and pull down that photo collage and give it to my parents, one of whom was the photographer of several of those family photos, am I going to be arrested for trafficking child porn?

          Probably, in Trump’s America.

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            You write well. Also, is it illegal to possess a naked picture of oneself as a child?

            I guess it’s about the risk of someone viewing it sexually.

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                Correct me if I’m wrong but the key to any good long text/speech is having as many interesting visual descriptions as possible. Emphasis on interesting.

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                  See? Imagery. And also, buy a bottle of bourbon and a bottle of rye with the excuse of doing A-B comparisons of Old Fashioned cocktails, drink like 6 and come away with the opinion that your favorite between the two is Luxardo cherries.

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        Yeah having to let the battery die on a patient’s prescription glasses that they needed to like. Not fall down while walking. Was not a fun couple of shifts.

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        If they didn’t have a camera they’d be pointless, there’s really no reason to have a screen on your face if it wasn’t to help AR the world.

        Which is why it’s going to need an extremely valid reason to use them aside from being a creeper.

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          Not true. I’ve had my eye on a pair for awhile that has no camera, only microphone, but has a HUD. Having navigation, an irl minimap, without having to keep your phone out is nice and has some actual positive safety implications. Also, this might mean less to Americans, but as someone living in Europe, having in line translation is really, really cool. Could almost sell it on that alone. I’ve heard some deaf folks are also using it to help understand people by augmenting their lip reading (which usually doesn’t get all of the information across by itself) with summaries that the mic picked up.

          I’ve only held off because the pair I was looking at seem like it isn’t quite there yet in reliability, but there are definitely some pretty big use cases I can think of. I would 100% get some of these without a camera.

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            Wondering how we’re doing on echolocation or if sensors that are less invasive but still useful might be tolerated in public. The device might identify objects generically… Maybe there’s some middleground between useful and perverted.

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          there’s really no reason to have a screen on your face

          Look around. People have a screen on their face 24/7. Currently they need their hand to hold it there.

          Maybe you mean there is no need for a camera on your face. That I agree with.

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          Lidar, rather than a camera. Allows it to create a 3d model of what’s in front of it without being able to take pictures itself

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          So there are certainly some valid use cases. They could be useful for surgeries, engineering design work, surveying, etc. None of these have you wearing them all the time or in social areas through. It’s a niche product they need to focus on those markets and stop trying to force mass adoption. It’s the same as AI.

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      They will, unfortunately. I hate these things but I know that as soon as influencers make them cool, the shame will go away.

      I really want to be wrong about this.

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      100%. I’ve been saying it for years that at the end of the day, the only punishment that actually works is the public shaming.

      Bring back the public perp walks. March the criminal through the streets with a big banner announcing their crime, and then leave them them in a public cell in the middle of town for a few days with their name on it, their crime, and no privacy so that people can come and see them.

      A few days of that will do more to cure recidivism than any jail you can name.

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    There is an Android app that looks for the Bluetooth signatures of these glasses and alerts if they are nearby. Hopefully something exists on iOS devices as well.

    Edit: The app is called Nearby Glasses and it is available on iOS and Android.

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        It’s from 2013, when Google released Google Glass, the first glasses containing a screen and camera. The backlash to that was exactly like the backlash today towards glasses with cameras. The techbros just hoped we had forgotten.

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    Specifically identifying the “pervert glasses” as “pervert Meta Ray-bans” would kill these products even faster. Associating Ray-bans with perversion would surely be a deal breaker.

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    “A lot of men and their behaviors have ruined this product.”

    That’s men acting as they intended using a product as intended. There is no plot twist here.

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      I remember this media cycle from the GoogleGlass era. And while the initial reporting was “People are viciously attacking anyone seen wearing them!”, the business post-mortem was more that nobody was buying them to begin with.

      These glasses are oversized, heavy, ugly, and pretty much useless for anyone who isn’t a pervert. The sticker price for this largely pointless gadget can go north of $800 retail. That’s a high-end PC or fully loaded PS5 for a small camera that sits on your face and some lenses that give you a Virtual Boy tier of AR overlay.

      Who has time for this shit? There’s no use-case.

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        Excuse me but whens the last time you priced a “high end pc”? You’re living in the past…

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          whens the last time you priced a “high end pc”?

          👉👈 Maybe five years ago. Even then, I’ll admit “high end” is generous.

          $800 is still a ton of money for an ugly pair of glasses with a gimmick nobody has implemented.

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          To be fair, you can get a $800 high end PC… but it would be used and 4 to 5 generations out of date.

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        I can think of several use-cases: subtitles for the hearing impaired, translation, AR overlays for technical work, etc. Not saying they’re a good value, but it seems weird to say there’s no use-case.

        And I genuinely don’t understand the pervert angle. What do they do for perverts that can’t be done with much cheaper button/pen cameras, or even a phone in your breast pocket?

        Like sure, there are problems with surveillance and ads and other nasty tech bro shit, that much is obvious. But I sincerely do not understand why they’re being called pervert glasses. Am I missing something?

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      yup. they knew what they were doing when they made it possible to kill the notifcation light without killing the recording.

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    Being accidentally recorded in the background of someone’s photo or video is one thing, and it happens all the time, that is fine

    But we all know it doesn’t end there.

    These glasses allow secret recording

    Of your children at the playground

    Of your wife and children at the beach

    Of your wife and you at a nude beach

    Then all the videos will be picked up by Facebook and fed into their AI. your kids, your family, you, will forcibly be used for AI proposes, you will also be identified, your locations will be stored with it and sold to the highest bidder. Your facial expressions will be determined, what you all were wearing, what you were doing. All of it will be not used but abused to hell and back

    If I see such glasses making a recording of me and or my family that will be the end of those glasses

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      Cell phones can do all of those creepy things. Plus, glasses that can record have existed for many years. The only reason people are pissed is because it’s Meta.

      If you ever assume I’m wearing recording glasses (I don’t really have an interest) and think you have a right to assault, I will knock your fucking teeth out right in front of your family.

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        If someone points a camera at you or your children, or at you and your partner at a nude beach, that is (1) much more noticeable and (b) doesn’t make it okay “because it can also do those things and have existed for many years”.

        It’s not just because it is Meta. Meta is an unethical shit company, yes, but any of those US companies, or even non-US companies that use US cloud storage like AWS, fall under the Cloud Act and are therefore all untrustworthy. It is not unreasonable to think that always-on spy cameras are feeding into Palantair and other AIs or are ultimately used for ICE to track down and shoot people.

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    “There are a lot of times where it’s not appropriate to wear cameras on your face”. When is it ever appropriate? Try walking around pointing your cellphone at people’s faces all the time and see what happens.

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      Well in the US it’s a protected right in public places and if people assault you for it, self defense laws apply.

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        What is a right? Filming people without their consent? In the civilised world it only applies to public figures.