May they forever live in existential fear and require personal security for the rest of their pathetic lives
The datacenter growth model has to stop now
The financial markets are starting to punish companies for throwing everything into AI
If the financial markets were doing that then AI companies and infrastructure would falter right now. Its not
It’s not really that clear cut.
The financial markets have a tendancy to keep propping up bullshit until said bullshit explodes harder than it was ever supposed to. See 2008
Good. These execs fucked with our lives and killed a lot of people. Let’s see how they like living in fear of retaliation.
No, they aren’t terrified. These people think they are demigods. I’ve seen it in plent of senior vice presidents even. It’s almost a job requirement at this point. Body guards make them feel even more important, and the company pays for it. Plus… that other tech bro has it, so I should too. That’s just the type of people we are dealing with.
I met Thiel once. He was every bit the cunt you’d think he was.
Tech execs have had armed bodyguards for a long time. There was a scandal in Santa Clara county where the sheriff accepted bribes to issue concealed-carry certs for bodyguards.
I think there’s another place in Arizona or something, with shocking amounts of sherriffs. Off duty leo don’t haveany firearms restrictions at all.
I mean Arizona doesn’t have firearms restrictions at all. So.
Yeah, it’s more for travel. I doubt any have been in the state. So they can take guns on planes or to church idk
They should be afraid. Luigi was just.
Wrong, murder and violence isn’t the answer in a democracy. They work on LLMs, not on skinning children to the bone.
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants alike. These fuckwits are most certainly tyrants per my cultures definition using bribery, intimidation, and legal bullfuckery to build their stupid AI data centers. Oh also quite a few of them want to set up a tachno fascist dictatorship. So in summary hang em high and let the ravens feast apon their gallow corpses.
Wrong. Read the Epstein files.
This argument is obviously in bad faith. I’m for prosecuting criminals and rapists in the Epstein files. But generalizing all Tech CEOs to rape kids is bit of a stretch
When its over half of them, and the other half are literal natzis from south Africa or have some other kind of weird racist origin I think its pretty safe to say all of them.
Not to mention ALL of the major tech and ai companies have installed someone from unit 8200.
Its not in bad faith when the list of “good” tech ceos is under a handful.
But we’re in a plutocracy, not a democracy.
isnt a part of the epstein files basically about skinning children to the bone
Violence is a useful tool. What Luigi did was just. When reason, negotiation, a plea for empathy or sympathy fails and exploitation continues, violence is the answer.
The LLMS convinced maybe 15+ kids to kill themselves. Claude told the us goverment to bomb a kids school.
I mean you’re kind of splitting hairs on what kind of child murder the LLMs are enabling.
I can use a hammer to kill a person. A suicidal person can buy a rope to hang themselves. Of course an AI is different in that it almost seems conscious and like its talking to you when its not. I’m not a lawyer or the company in question. But I don’t think this warrants banning the entire technology
First show me where I said we should ban them.
Second:
If you where to leave a loaded gun out on the table, and someone where to steal it off your table you would also be held liable for the crime because it wasn’t locked away in a gun safe unloaded.
LLMs are the equivalent of handing out a loaded gun to everyone for free, even if they adamantly don’t want one. People like Sam Altmann and elon musk who keep pushing for this garbage to be your therapist and the only way to interact with life should face serious consequences like life in prison, and the companies they run should get a fine that’s impossibly large to pay off just like how infowars got a 500billion dollar fine. Info wars and chatgpt are pretty much the same product.
I doubt it’s possible to reach a democracy without violence.
The state has a monopoly on violence which it should use within accordance to law to uphold the law and democracy. Self-justice is a huge problem in that regard
Wrong, murder and violence isn’t the answer in a democracy.
You think you’re in a democracy?
Cute…
This has actually been happening since Luigi. Especially tech CEOs. The companies actually started paying for them.
I first ran into it in a class a couple years ago, the dude running was talking about how our group was the first group of normies he’d seen. It was all silicon Valley C staff before, every one had a dude standing directly behind them who wouldn’t talk. We’re only hearing about it now, but they’ve been creating a new personal guard industry since the united Healthcare ceo got it.
What’s the matter colonel Sanders, chicken?
How “brilliant” do you have to be to think this is a better alternative than to stop doing things that make you think people are going to Luigi you?
Stopping doing those things would mean stopping doing capitalism, and these people would rather we all die than that.
Yeah but they would have to give up ruling the world and ruining your life for fun. And by spending a peanut negligible amount of money, they can still shield themselves from consequences? What would you do if you too were an overrich narcissist sadistic sociopath??
What is the answer when the wealthy murder countless people but hide it by doing it indirectly?
How are people supposed to make them stop?
Because the murder that the wealthy are doing needs to stop.
Everyone who is not them needs it to stop.
murder
You answered your own question.
When does it stop being murder and become social justice? One does not become a billionaire without exploiting others in some way unfairly
when you get enough people to agree to actually pack up their squeamishness concerning homicide to go through with calling it “manslaughter in self defence.” At that point it becomes one of three things depending on who leads the charge: A civil war if the sycophants to the system have enough firepower to empower “loyalists” to fight for them, A Revolt if the people elevate one of their own, (most likely a leader in some grassroots org) or a Revolution if there are enough people already in power to rally the troops so-to-speak. It can morph to one of others others at any point though. Of the three, Revolutions tend to be the fastest if conducted surgically with some sort of Coup-d’etat scenario.
Idk, I’m personally not too concerned with what we call it as long as it happens.
This is a well understood phenomenon well explored in many books with both nuanced and obvious answers, please ask your local librarian to direct you. In the mean time I’ve heard the new movie I Love Boosters is really good…
Armed bodyguards for billionaires are now pariahs. If you know one, isolate them, tell everyone who they are, and the boot they lick. More hated than the glassholes.
Or persuade them…
Remember what the Praetorian Guards would do when they demanded a pay raise and didn’t get one.
Yet they aren’t going to stop. If threats to their lives isn’t enough to slow them down, how much would it actually take for them to stop?
I think the answer is already in the question.
I mean killing them off works look at Luigi. That was just one of them
This murder is no saint. Self-judicial actions don’t deserve praise.
Self-judicial actions don’t deserve praise.
Depends on the context. Use of deadly force in defense of self/others can be acceptable and legal.
Yes but only if the threat is urgent and there are no other ways to protect your life. I would argue there are ways and self-defense is explicitly not self-judicial. If you are cornered and fighting for your life while someone is trying to kill you thats a whole different circumstance.
Yes but only if the threat is urgent
The ongoing and systematic denial of life-saving and necessary care to people in favor of profit, especially since those who are contracted to provide care just
politically donatebribe their way into setting things up so care is denied isn’t urgent? Seems like fighting the systematic early-extermination of workers has some similarities to the resistance networks that fought the Nazis. Not a 1:1 overlap, but there seem to be similarities.I believe your representatives could do something if people started voting in their best interest. And class action lawsuits also have existed for a while. Justice is tedious. Not everyone has equal resources I acknowledge that. A basic social safety net in a first world country should be the standard. Even if you can’t pay insurance the public hand should help you when you’re down. Many first-world countries already do this. A CEO is just one cog in a machine. Kill him which hurts his family and friends, and they will be replaced. The issue is systematic. CEOs aren’t the one to blame, the laws and political system are. People need to organize and not wait for one individual with vengeance to take out CEOs. If a CEO doesn’t perform shareholders replace them. Pure capitalism is fucked which is why many Scandinavian and western European countries combine it with social policies. Demonizing anything so called “communistic” because it improves peoples lives just because it takes the best aspects of socialism and combines it with capitalism is the problem. The general populous in the US is too conservative and resistant to change. And the example I was giving is legal for situations where you fight against an aggressor for your life. Even if I had cancer and UHC denied to give me healthcare treatment killing the CEO wouldn’t immediately resolve my issues with denials. The policies applied are horrible but that doesn’t justify murder. You can argue with systematic mass-murder and I understand the concern but the whole system is the problem. I hope bad publicity deters anyone from going with their healthcare plans plans now. My point also wasn’t meant to discuss Luigi Magione and the murder of UHC CEO Bryan Thompson but more related to AI CEOs
I believe your representatives could do something if people started voting in their best interest.
Both parties are bought and paid for by the same plutocrats.
A basic social safety net in a first world country should be the standard
The United States is a third world shithole that mascarades as first world (see bribes as previously mentioned).
The general populous in the US is too conservative and resistant to change.
Mandami shows that to be untrue. The Epstein class has merely kept the political system from ensuring the wellbeing of the population (see bribes above).
Even if I had cancer and UHC denied to give me healthcare treatment killing the CEO wouldn’t immediately resolve my issues with denials.
Maybe. Maybe it’ll change the calculation to make it too expensive to deny people care/living wages (See Paper Mario).
The policies applied are horrible but that doesn’t justify murder.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” -Kennedy
Soap box(See, e.g., Colbert and the like)Ballot box (watch the games that are already kicking off about this, especially with support from the bribes as previously mentioned)
Jury boxAmmo box
I would agree if the judicial system was doing their job and being fair. That is not even remotely the case, is it?
So United stopped denying care?
Studies show that not only did the justifiably executed Corporate Serial Killer’s health care company ease up on their denials, so did all the OTHER health care companies. I’ve read numerous reports by people who were struggling to get serious care for years, who were suddenly approved after justice was served.
Eventually, they went back to business as normal. That only demonstrates that we have to randomly execute a CEO every few months, just to keep them in line.
For a little bit. They figured it’s a one-off… And so far they e been correct.
But every bullshit denial could mean another.
And so far they e been correct.
Paper Mario disagrees.
They better build their walls high
And waterproof. Makes it easier to flood.
Diggy diggy hole.
Everybody hates me. Am I really so out of touch?
No. It’s the
childrengeneral populace who are wrong.I’ve ignored an unspoken social contract to help my communities and actively try to get all the wealth.
Must be those damn commies who made me do it.
