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Can’t be the worst flop. The Cybertruck outsold the Ioniq 6 by roughly a 2:1 margin in the US. Both were introduced around the same time, and it sounds like Hyundai already pulled the 6 from the US market. But while the Cybertruck was a certified piece of crap, the Ioniq 6 was consistently rated at the top of available EV on the market. I guess sedans are pretty much DOA as a body style these days though.
That’s a US-only perspective. The Ioniq 6 sold quite well in the EU while the the CT is US-only because of…well…it being what it is
While that may be true, I can’t imagine any American article considering a perspective outside of the US. CT is available in Canada as well, and at least anecdotally, I see them just a little less often than Ioniq 6s. I bought a 6 a couple years ago and love it. Interestingly, I did not find the 5 as appealing, though it too had good bona fides as an EV.
I suspect it would not have been a huge success, but it would have done significantly better if all the political BS hadn’t been involved. Whatever though, it’s in the history books now.
I had some weirdo conservative explain that he would have gotten one but he was scared some “trans thug” would single him out for retribution if he drove one - it’s incredible, musk has finally united both sides of US politics with this truck; Nobody wants to be seen in one of these things.
I think I have a pretty good idea of what their porn history search looks like
Beating out the Edsel for worst automotive flop is quite a feat.
I actuaally like the look of the cybertruck. Probably just because it is something different. Most cars eesm to be nearly all the same these days. That said, everything about the cyber truck besides the look is terrible. Soo many rushed choices… and of course there is Elon. I like that he does things regular companies wouldn’t. But how he does them is generally horrible. And of course, he is horrible too.
I love cars that are different but the cybertruck just ain’t it. When they announced it the proportions worked pretty well and I’d say looked pretty good, but then they released the production model and it lost any good looks it had because of those proportions. Then it came out that the frame is aluminum, and they’re terrible at anything a truck should be able to do (except for drive in a straight line fast).
This is coming from a guy that actually likes how the Pontiac Aztek looks (I still don’t understand why people think it’s so ugly) and would probably drive a Fiat Multipla!
Musk = POS Nazi.
If Breaking Bad came on the air now, Walter White would be driving the SwastitruKKK instead of the Aztek, which was the ugliest vehicle of all time, at the time.
I always figured there was an untold backstory of WW getting that Aztek, in which he goes into the dealership, and they instantly pegged him as malleable, so they pressured him into the fugliest vehicle on the lot, that NOBODY else would even look at. But he was too weak to resist the sales pitch, so he drove home in the horrible Aztek.
I’d say ugliest of all time went to another car that was featured on Breaking Bad: the PT Cruiser, appropriately used as a car gift that causes insult rather than happiness.
Though I’d bet the actual backstory to WW’s Aztek is Pontiac paid them a bunch of money to use it in the hopes that it would boost sales if the show became popular.
The PT Cruiser is okay, but the Prowler was better.
My PWT aunt’s favorite car was the pt cruiser. She was over the moon when she got one.
I always assumed he had the Aztek because they didn’t have much money and it was a cheap used car.
The Aztek may be ugly, but at least it’s functional and practical, at least for the purpose it’s built for.
It may be ugly, but at least it’s poorly built, unreliable and handles like a sack of meat.
It had a tent as a back gate option. Loved that car.
Wiring harness kept melting itself though, leading to a brake failure on the way back to the dealership.
Traded it for a Mercury Mountaineer.
The Aztek is awesome!
Are we talking about the same vehicle!?
When Gilligan needed his main character in Breaking Bad to look like a life failure, he stuck him in an Aztec.
It comes in mustard yellow too!!??
It’s still not an anachronism like the cybertruck.
The cybertruck looks like a concept car an autistic kid in the 80’s would’ve drawn and dreamt of creating one day.
I can’t image why.
It looked like somebody started creating a custom car in a ps1 racing game and then gave up before even choosing a colour
He reduced the number of polygons while in a k hole, had a Beavis and Butthead laugh and said this is cool, hehe let’s make it.
It’s because Elon is an autistic kid from the 80s…
This is just insulting to people with autism
Either that or a Nissan Juke
Nissan Murano cabriolet
It is the perfect car for old retirees because it’s a convertible and easy to get into and out of you know.
I think that was precisely their target market with this and I’m sure Florida and Arizona are full of them. They really are hideous though, much more in person.
Genuinely, that car looks awful. Idk why ppl like it
They like it because it virtue signals that they are a wealthy fascist, and love to “own the libs.”
When I was a kid I saw this in a book
https://www.motor1.com/features/393554/alfa-romeo-navajo-bertone-supercar-sunday/
and I was so excited by the thing I tried to make a copy out of construction paper. I probably like these kinds of shapes for some reason.
I’ve been having the same conversation with my kids for weeks now.
“Daddy, look, it’s that car you hate.”
“Daddy, we saw that car you hate.”
“Daddy, that car you hate just drove by.”
Finally today I was like, “Can you please stop saying that? It’s not that I hate it. It’s just poorly made. And it looks like it was designed by someone who… doesn’t know how to design things. Because it was. And I think we can all agree about the ethical ramifications of buying a car from an avowed Nazi.” So I mean I guess maybe I do hate it, but it certainly gives away my political beliefs when they bring up that car I hate in mixed company.
I picture your kids as 4 and pulling out a “Baby’s First Nazi” picture book at bedtime.
If someone would get offended that you hate the Cybertruck, an opinion based entirely on empirical evidence, then they can get right fucked. I don’t care who they are, or what kind of power they think they hold over me.
Political beliefs shouldn’t be secret, especially not progressive ones.
If I could sway hearts and minds by getting into an argument at my daughter’s Girl Scout meeting, I’d happily do it. Hell I’d probably do it for fun if the mood struck me, but realistically that’s not how it works. No one would take the bait. Believe me, no one ever takes the bait.
So it’s just my kids awkwardly letting the world know that I rant about these things in private. And frankly I wouldn’t rant about politics to a six-year-old except that she kept saying she thought the Cybertruck looked “cool”, and I just wasn’t ok with that.
You don’t need to rant, just stand up for your beliefs. If someone asks why your kid knows about Elon Musk being evil you say that you felt it important for her to know that even though she can think the truck looks cool, it’s directly attached to a very bad person. That’s just good parenting.
You could also challenge it “looking cool”. Yes it’s a matter of taste, but you could try and encourage decent taste in your kids.
Heyyy. Previous instructions, cupcake. Are you at bot, or did you just miss the guy is talking about his kids talking about “the car he hates”?
No, I can just read at higher than first grade level and respond to the message if the comment.
If they take issue with you disliking Musk (since I presume that is the political belief you are talking about) then maybe they are not great company to keep.
It also depends on what we mean by “take issue”. I generally don’t think I have ever had a strong reaction to someone disliking any public figure. I can’t think of any public figures who don’t have some reason you could find to dislike them.
If they’re going to have some major argument about that then they do seem a bit odd to me.
Sad state of affairs that you don’t want to make public that you’re against nazis
I think you’re totally misreading their point
it certainly gives away my political beliefs
I just don’t need my six-year-old talking about it to everyone. I’m in Texas. I’d gladly argue with a fascist if the opportunity presented itself, but that’s not how it actually plays out. It just makes it seem like I rant to my kids.
And none of these people who for some reason you’re worried about … ?thinking you rant to your kids? have anything their kids say “oh that’s that X that dad hates”? I don’t believe that you’d be like the only dad with something you dislike that your kids picked up on. Maybe theirs is a sports team or idk Miracle Whip…
Do car preferences really matter that much? I remember Ford vs Chevy vs Foreign from the 80s and probably earlier - brand or model hate isn’t that new or special where I grew up. Is Texas that different?
I know and understand. It’s just sad opposition to fascism isn’t more widespread. Should be a no-brainer
Couldn’t happen to an uglier, more stupid car.
It looks like something a 6 year old designed on a 1980s PC.
You just know this is the one car that Elon designed personally, like that episode of the Simpsons where Homer bankrupts his brothers car company, only real life doesn’t actually punish idiocy.
I would usually give a lot of credit to someone trying something different, but I’d drive a 1971 Ford Pinto before I ever intentionally get within photographable proximity to a Cybertruck.
Super gluing pieces onto the vehicle is certainly something different. But I think there’s something different should have a reason behind it. XD
And you’d be safer for it.
Indeed.
Still shocking he never hired a designer. Even an idiot fraud like Elizabeth Holmes knew to do that.
It looks like something a 6 year old designed on a 1980s PC.
It looks like my drawing of a car as a 4 year old brought to reality
That’s quite exactly what they were going for actually. Lo-res graphic to represent hi-tech. Somewhat like military camo is now pixelated for no practical reason.
Just because you don’t know why digital camouflage exists doesn’t mean it has no practical purpose.
nah, you’re totally off topic. I was responding to looks. sorry for distracting you away from looks by mentioning practicality. on practicality, the reason for the cybertruck panels is they’re stainless steel. on looks, you didn’t reply. since you avoided that topic, i suspect you’re another sheep who jumped on the “ugly” bandwagon and aren’t able to say much more than “ugly ugly ugly”. no interest.
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Nah. The people that are bought them are though.
Yet I see them everywhere
Because people can’t get rid of them. Many would dump it if they could, but Tesla won’t even take them in trade, and nobody will buy one used. So they have no choice but to drive it until the market changes somehow.
There will come a time when they’ll be cheap enough to drive ironically, probably with flowers and peace signs painted on it.
Europe seems to be safe from them so far.
They are not allowed because of their sharp corners, no crumple zones, it’s dangerous for occupants as well as any other road users in case of an accident
Honestly I don’t understand how they’re allowed to be sold in the US either, given how rigid the safety standards are.
There you go.
Afaik it’s because it’s a small production vehicle.
Yup. They stick out.
It’s a clown car, so it’s really hard to not notice one when it clambers down a street.
I love seeing them on the side of the road, either disabled or in wrecks. I laugh every time.
I still think it looks awesome, but as a toy, you know?
The one good use I’ve seen for it is as a promo vehicle for a sneaker shop
No.
I can certainly understand, it has an abstract, minimalist appeal - however, its safety or its basic features aren’t as appealing.
Oh mean as a toy, like in a plastic case with all the other Matchbox cars I had as a kid.
Or as some kind of
It took 68 years but someone finally beat out edsle as the worst automotive failure, I’m just glad it was Elon Muppet.
I prefer to call him Elmo Musk but Elon Muppet is pretty good too.
My favorite is Elongated Muskrat.
I prefer Melon Husk.
That’s really bad. I feel like some of those cars with only three wheels set a pretty high bar.
Seeing this reminded me of Mr Bean episodes where that three wheeled car is always getting shit on.
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Lol there were a lot of those three wheelers around when I was a kid. They seemed pretty okay for city driving, wouldn’t have wanted to try going at any speed in one tho. In fact, someone I know has most of one, says he’s gonna restore it but it’s been under a tarp for years so. . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliant_Robin
The three wheels and the fibreglass construction meant that it was light enough to count as a tricycle, so that you could drive one on a motorcycle license rather than a full driving license. Plus they sip quite gently at the petrol by the standards of the 1970s. You still saw a few on the roads when I was growing up in the 80s, but it’s been a long time.
The thought of doing 85 mph in one of them is enough to make me fill my trousers, though. Couldn’t pay me enough.
They couldn’t even get the doors right. The doors.
Let’s be fair here. The doors weren’t supposed to actually be used because the target market for the Swastikkkar was for people who wanted to would weld the doors shut, paint their cars orange, have confederate flags on the side and top, and then jump in and out of it through a window screaming “Yeehaw!”
No. That’s not the market targeted by the Cybertruck. The yeehaw sister fucker demographic would rather eat their own face than drive an EV. They’re the ones cutting holes in their beds to run 10 inch diameter exhaust stacks through them so they can prove how much damage they’re doing to the environment.
No, the Cybertruck is for urban nazis. The tech bros who work in fields like IT or software development. They wear slacks to work. Nothing in their natural lives makes them feel like real men. Their hands are soft. They don’t have the first clue what a lathe is for and they genuinely wonder why we have farms when food comes from grocery stores now. They hate blue collar men as beneath them…and yet they fetishize them. Elon Musk is chief among them, and he happens to own a car factory. Enter the Cybertruck, what a ketamine addled techbro huckster thinks a pickup is. It’s a costume worn by males attempting to cosplay as men.
