• Jhex@lemmy.world
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      Just making sure the ENTIRE world hates the US.

      Bush Jr took you to the brink of that (after marching towards that cliff hard with other previous admins)… the US only needed a nudge to get there and electing a child rapist was like taking the off ramp into the void

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        There’s a big difference from “we’re going to rename French fries” to “we’re going to invade Greenland”.

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          Bush did a ton of evil shit… let’s not pretend he was just a silly goose

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            What in the enhanced interrogations could you be talking about? The man just wants to paint puppies, why are you being so mean to him?

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            What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies) to hate the US?

            Before you answer, let me remind you that most people don’t care about anything that happens to anyone more than 100 km from them.

            Bombing Iraq and Afghanistan? Those are far away and there’s always a war in the middle east.

            Torturing people? Par for the course in America.

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              So you want me to list evil stuff but exclude wars that killed hundreds of thousand civilians because you don’t care about those people and torturing humans because the USA does that too often to count?

              I think when you say “most people don’t care” you are still just referring to the USA population

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                The question was about “the world abandoning the US”. What I think is irrelevant, look at the opinion polls in 2005 and 2025.

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              What evil shit did he do for the world (specifically US allies)

              So, you think that the world begins and ends with the invaders of Iraq and Afghanistan?

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                I’d love to be proven wrong, but bombing weddings and torturing people doesn’t make people abandon the US. Tariffs on the other hand…

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            The comment thread you are replying to was about actions that made America hate its enemies. Not anyone’s personal opinion on the justifiability of these actions. I think you are confusing their suggestion that the verbal attacks against France/Greenland made the entire world hate the US more than the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan for a comment on whether these invasions were justified, perhaps in a knee-jerk, strawman-like fashion.

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              The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions of past US administrations, in a way that reduces the illegal invasions of the current administration into an exceptional, idiosyncratic, and one-off behavior. The reality is the US has been hated worldwide for far too long, at least since the end of WW2. I hope I was informative and pertinent enough according to your standards.

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                The comment above that I replied to had the effect, regardless of intentions, of dismissing and whitewashing the actions

                No, it didn’t, that’s the “knee-jerk” thing I was talking about earlier. See also: Israelis and “anti-semitism”.

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            Doesn’t matter “to me”, I was about public opinion, and it barely moved the needle, because at the end of the day, it didn’t affect the average Joe.

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          It’s the same high-control, unhealthy policies though, that includes all the hate on LGBTQ+ people too. That was big in his terms, anti-gay ballot initiatives based on lies that hurt people, that turned out the prejudiced base to elect him and others that caused damage here and abroad. It’s always regress and ruin progress, and, yes, the latest maga version of the party is even worse.

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            Well, on lemmy downvotes mean even less than on reddit, so honestly who cares. Everyone needs a hobby…

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        Obama has been maligned for it too. Trump deserves the same ridicule.

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          These types of comments never elaborate or talk about other relevant things like how Obama didn’t take us into a full blown war with Iran

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            Why don’t you use the same internet you’re using to look it up? You’ll remember longer.

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      i really, really wanted to argue with your point, but i just heard a car backfire outside my house and i knew it was a very loud car backfire and not a gunshot because there bang didn’t boom just so. also because at my old place, my neighbor is a mechanic and still has the 60’s mustang he drove in high school (i think. maybe 70’s. SHE’S BLUE OKAY) in show condition and he’d never stand for a backfire like that, president of the car club would take away his keys.

      anyways this town has gotten a hell of a lot safer (it’s not an out and out gang war like it was in the 90s) so i’m about as worried about gun violence as i am nuclear war (thanks mr turnip!) but, like also my wife teaches elementary so i follow those godsdamned statistics.

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    Voting Trump in once was a horrendous mistake. Voting Trump in twice is unforgivable.

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      That’s part of the strategy.

      Often, the innocent civilians, particularly the children targeted, are children or immediate family of high ranking military personnel.

      They want the people making important decisions to be in a compromised state of mind.

      Not only is it not an accident, it’s the fucking strategy.

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    Ah, the good old Epstein class. Fightin’ wars to cover up their “tween” business. American soldiers should not be forced to defend a pedophile cabal who are somehow the most powerful people on earth. We need to shake the globe like an etch-a-sketch as the Epstein class will kill anybody or do anything to protect themselves.

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      are thy actualy ‘forced’ to defend them or did they conciously choose to join in this needless war?!

      If all of them conscientiously objected this war would be over in like a day or two.

      Iran has the right to defend itself against class traitors and terrorists

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      Let’s be 100% honest, it’s about oil and US will continue wars for oil just like any empire in history, we’re going after other countries resources. Hate it, love it, it’s just what empires do

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      The US loves to blow up weddings murdering civilians and of course most importantly killing children.

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    Sounds like Israel tactics as they continue the Palestinian genocide.