• YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca
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    28 days ago

    It’s the old “why should I pay for someone else’s healthcare???”.

    They’re too dumb to realize everyone else helps pay for their healthcare.

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      28 days ago

      “Why should I pay for someone else’s healthcare?”

      Because one day, someone will pay your healthcare you absolutely rotten piece of shit.

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        28 days ago

        Because one day, someone will pay your healthcare you absolutely rotten piece of shit.

        Like their children that for some reason won’t visit or call during the holidays.

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          26 days ago

          My wife works in long term care and I can say this: the more “conservative” inmates get visited significantly less than your “liberal” ones…

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        27 days ago

        I know no one on Lemmy likes Jubilee and I don’t either, but I still watch it every now and again.

        Last month there was a Gen Z politician vs Boomers and one of the old guys was talking about how student loan forgiveness shouldn’t be done. The politician says you won’t feel it. The Boomer said, they would because of the numbers of the ledger, politician says you’ll feel it due to the all the people being able to contribute to the economy properly and giving it a huge boost. Boomer says him or his wife had their loans forgiven and it was a huge help, but that not everyone should get it.

        Man, these fucking people.

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          27 days ago

          Jubilee is a conservative channel, that pretends to be on “both sides” they showed thier true colors when they host conservatives, magats , and even charlie kirk, to debate “woke” people, usually its 20 people vs the left all the time.

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              24 days ago

              The BBC, perhaps. Still conservative, but compared to some US networks they’re practically three Lenin’s in a trenchcoat

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        27 days ago

        Hell, we all pay for other people’s healthcare now! When people go to the emergency room and can’t afford to pay, the hospitals crank up the cost of everyone else’s healthcare to make up for it. We have literally the least cost effective system possible.

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      27 days ago

      I sometimes wonder if my MAGA Dad has had a change of heart. He used to be against universal healthcare because he “doesn’t want to pay for some homeless addicts healthcare”.

      But now he’s been laid off and 6 months unemployed as a tech worker. I’m sure he wouldn’t appreciate it being pointed out that he’s living the stereotype he stigmatized for so many years. Or how slippery the slope is to homelessness.

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        27 days ago

        These people NEED this pointed out to them. It’s the only way they ever change their perspectives. It must affect them, otherwise they never change.

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        27 days ago

        hes going to do mental gymnasitcs,“im not one of those people, i worked 100k+/year job for decades, and i deserved it”. if he was a diehard magat.

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      28 days ago

      You’re already paying for everyone else’s healthcare. Medicare for all would just make it cheaper and simpler.

      What do you think happens when somebody walks into a hospital with no insurance? Do they just turn them away? No. Who do you think pays for that? You do. It’s paid for in the markup of your hospital bill.

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        28 days ago

        there’s usually a ‘process’ and qualifications to get the bill covered by whatever ‘community care’ program the facility has.

        they will absolutely produce an invoice and expect payment or ‘arrangements’ upon discharge (which could include application for community care benefit).

        they will also absolutely send that billing to a collections agency as well. one of the hospitals near me sends a lot of their uninsured or underinsured billing that would never qualify for assistance to collections without making more than a token effort to get paid first… my boss even had a message on their home voice mail waiting for her when she got home from having an outpatient procedure done.

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          27 days ago

          i like how the christian “health/dental” plans are exactly like actual insurance from like companies like cigna,aetna,delta-care,etc.

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            27 days ago

            As evil as for-profit health insurance is, it’s actually heavily regulated. These Christian coop schemes are not and can absolutely scam people and not pay out at all for reasons like not having evidence of adhering to a strict moral code (skipped church too many Sundays? Yeah that’s a violation, coverage voided). And when they retroactively decide the person isn’t Christlike enough there’s little recourse for the patient.

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      27 days ago

      It’s even more stupid than that. They’re not even paying for their own healthcare. If you arrive in hospital and need several million pounds worth of medical treatment, there’s no quibbling about whether or not you paid that much in they just get on with it.

      The vast majority of people who suddenly require major surgery you actually pay considerably less over the course of a life paying via taxes then you ever would pay for private healthcare, also because it’s the government just funding itself they don’t make random numbers up when it comes to billing, it costs what it cost.

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        27 days ago

        Pound like a pound of fat, if so can it come from the belly area, they have tons over there. /S

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      28 days ago

      everyone else helps pay for their healthcare.

      Everyone else minus a select few parasites who instead make their healthcare vastly more expensive to balance it out – the American way. 🇵🇷🦅⛪🗽🔫🎆

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      27 days ago

      I don’t think it’s that. Or at least not always that. I’ve met plenty of boomers that think they worked hard and earned their healthcare and it’s unfair that others would get it for “free”. They’re so brainwashed into tying healthcare to their jobs instead of it just being a human right.

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      27 days ago

      Especially because it’s the backwards hicks who tend to be the least healthy

      There’s a part of me that would happily let them die as a result of their stupidity, but I believe even more strongly that universal health care should be universal

      Let them opt out if they want to once it’s explained to them that it’s “socialised medicine” and is a leftist idea

      They won’t, because they’re filthy hypocrites