• Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    2 days ago

    And this at a time where neither Congress nor the Supreme Court seem willing to provide checks and balances on the executive.

  • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    To those that didn’t see that coming, I’m sorry. To those that did, I know you have the supplies to ride the storm, and I’ll see you on the other end of this. Hopefully it’s over reasonably soon and we can rebuild better.

    • orbitz@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      2 days ago

      Better just do a general strike, if everyone (not realistic but a good chunk) stopped doing their thing it’d make those in charge get it. I don’t meant the Trump administration, whoever is really in charge and giving orders. Like anyone in the administration besides heritage foundation and project 2025 writer (to be fair not sole author) Russel Vought, he may have some real pull for sure.

      • wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 days ago

        Been promoting the idea of exercising 1st and 2nd amendments to build villages and be harder to oppress.

        People have been wholly uninterested. I have no idea what people expect to do when the gestapo comes for them, but now I’m just looking out for myself. This country is fucked.

  • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    Feds are already crawling all over the place, no more free press, supreme court is pocketed, congress has fucked off.

    What would martial law do? Make a cerfuw or something?

  • tangeli@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    85
    ·
    3 days ago

    If they truly care about voter fraud, they should override Trump and ensure external election observers are present at all polling stations and throughout the counting.

    If they truly want martial law until the election is confirmed, to ensure the election wasn’t ‘rigged’, they should invite a UN peace keeping force to administer it.

    But, somehow, I suspect their motivations aren’t based on any concern for legality, justice or democracy.

    • Taldan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      2 days ago

      This is Steve Bannon calling for it. He’s a true fascist through and through. He’s also a criminal

      Of everyone in this administration, he is most likely to go to prison after Trump’s term. He deserves it, and he’s an easy target for the admin to scapegoat for everything

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      3 days ago

      They should just skip the whole walk around the park and just give their supporters brown shirts, arm bands and some kind of blunt force weapon (with no restrictions) … and to keep them motivated in the evenings, get them to parade around with torches at night

  • acargitz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    3 days ago

    It’s become a meme to ask Americans at what point they will use their supposed 2nd amendment rights to start shooting at magas. And it has become similarly a bit of a meme to laugh at the ignorant non-americans for suggesting it.

    But let’s be real. When the magas are threatening to abolish your democracy, you yanks need to make a counter-threat of violence to keep it. It doesn’t even need to be “serious”. That drunk “we have guns too” lady is actually a fantastic start. But it needs to be followed up by more senior Democrats and I’m not talking about chuck schumer, just someone above “drunk candidate in Fayette county”. Someone needs to say that if the Republicans enact martial law there will be blood. Say it jokingly. Say it in wacky wink wink way. But fucking say it. Get your wackiest weirdo politician to actually put the gun on the table.

    If you don’t, then at some point it becomes a matter whether you actually care about your democracy. Like, fuck, maybe you don’t.

    • skippy@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      If actual political office-holders were saying this, opposing office-holders should certainly respond. No need for office-holders to respond to every looney spouting nonsense on a street corner.

    • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      I’m against this nazi shit, and as an avid marksman and gun collector, I have a small arsenal at my disposal

    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Just takes a few conscientious people. Foreclose on soldiers homes. Kick their kids out of school. Refuse to insure their vehicles.

  • switcheroo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    2 days ago

    And since that’s absolute bullshit, we can expect our police and maybe even the military to step up and do the right thing, yeah? They’ll be on our side, right???

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    48
    ·
    3 days ago

    Trump isn’t running in the midterms; he’s supposed to not have a horse in the race.

    Congress though? THEY could lose the midterms. Congess isn’t supposed to be a bunch of presidential yes men. Trump isn’t supposed to be the party leader.

    • in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 days ago

      “Supposed to” is how the US got into this mess in the first place. He and the GOP have broken so many norms that it doesn’t apply anymore.

  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    3 days ago

    Last time Martial Law was declared across the entirety of the US was 1862, when Lincoln enacted it, but applied it to specified categories of people (rebels, and those aiding them). But this is straight up Nazi shit.

    Who oversees the National Guard if (when) they declare the Democrats cheated (because that will be the orders they’ll be given, in no uncertain terms, on the quiet)?

    Trump is no doubt sprouting a chubby little mushroom stalk at the idea.

    What legal preventatives are available for the Democrats to stop this shitfuckery before it starts? It’s a grey area whether or not Trump needs Congress or the Senate’s approval to enact Martial Law, but it’s not really been taken to court, AFAIK, to test. Plus, he ignores them as if he’s forgotten they exist, anyway, pulling Executive Orders out of his arse as if they were on a roll of toilet paper he lost up there during a particularly energetic ‘Truth’ Social rant.

    Australian here, BTW. So there’s a lot I don’t know about US politics. But I do know Martial Law wouldn’t be good for free and open elections.

      • ɔiƚoxɘup@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        I’ve heard this, but it loads completely fine, with no-script and no exceptions.

        Is it just the capcha that does it?

        • ohulancutash@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          No. The “service” alters pages (so not much of an archive) to include code that launches a DDoS attack against a blogger. As such it has been banned from Wikipedia.

          • rumba@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            Gyrovague doxed them years ago and they held a grudge.

            It’s not right, but it’s also not entirely unexpected. I try not to use them, but all the alternatives seem to be dog shit slow.