I’ve recently played Resident Evil 6 for the 1st time after playing Resident Evil 4 (an absolute masterpiece) & Resident 5 (a pretty good game). I was already aware of the hate this game got over the years. But after experiencing it, it’s only bad in an artificial way. Like yeah, it’s nothing like the classic games and it’s too much in the action category.
Otherwise, as someone who loves action games, it’s a pretty fun game. Especially in Mercenaries Mode, where it’s fun to mow down body-horror themed enemies. As a Resident Evil game, it’s pretty bad. But…as an action third person shooter with splatter punks, it’s quite well executed
I was fine with Waterworld.
Iirc most of the press was just “this cost waaaaay too much to make” rather than “its a bad movie”
Thanks for reminding me I still need to actually watch it, though. And ive got a few hours to kill.
Just watched it for the second time last month educating the youth of today. Deserves a sequel more than Moana did.
I was recently shown this hilarious Simpsons skit, but someone had to explain it to me haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qause0z-9tM
Context
The arcade game is desperately trying to make back the movie’s budget, so it’s an extortionate quarter-muncher. Lol
And The Postman.
But I tend to like post-apocalyptic movies anyway.
I’ve always liked the Postman. With the exception of
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The scene at the end where society is totally back to normal in a totally unrealistic amount of time and they’re unveiling a statue of him. They should have just skipped that and had it end with him riding by the kid and grabbing the envelope.
The idea of The Postman was really neat. I remember it was a very slow paced epic though. A lot of Costner movies are kinda…contemplative that way. Kinda chill I guess? Haha his Robin Hood was like that too.
Waterworld, Sahara, and John Carter are all amazing movies that BOMBED… but by what metric? Tons of money in production and/or inept expensive marketing and it didn’t make it back.
That’s all. It wasn’t a “market success.” But I’m glad they’re a part of culture.
Sahara is the Uncharted movie we deserved. I wish we got more Clive Cussler movies. One of my favorite films.
John Carter is the reason I will never properly pronounce “Virginia” again.
Waterworld’s stunt show is incredible and the world building was awesome.
Especially back in the day. It was a major action movie event.
I kind of feel the same way about Cutthroat Island. It was a massive failure, but the production value was great and I thought it was a fun action flick.
Side Note: Waterworld is one of the few movies I recommend NOT watching the extended cut. The scenes are very low quality and feel like a TV production compared to the rest of the theatrical cut scenes.
Yes, which reminds me of another hated movie I love: The Cable Guy aka Cabo Goobla:
“Dry land is not a myth. I’ve seen it.” Kevin Costner. Waterworld. I don’t know what the big fuss is about. I saw that movie nine times. It rules!
- Chip Douglas
So much so that I’m always surprised when they get the quote wrong in Waterworld itself! 😅
The Stunt show at Universal Studios was really cool tho
It’s mad max on the water, what’s not to love? Now postman on the other hand…
Hey now, I actually liked Postman.
I watched that movie when I was a kid and genuinely liked it. (I do still have really broad taste, the question can be answered for me with “most media, apparently”)
It has a special place in my heart as one of a few dozen vhs we had that I could watch with no restrictions. (One of the banned movies was A clear and Present Danger, and I still don’t know why because I can’t stay awake through it because its boring. Another was Pulp Fiction. Maybe the first was a ruse!)
Is it a good movie? Idk. But smeat is still funny to me in ways that probably would have hit the same if I’d watched it today for the first time, so…
Kraven the Hunter. I was entertained by it and it was beautifully filmed.
I really like the 90s Romeo and Juliet, set in present day with the lines unchanged (mostly). I’m alone in this, I think.
It’s sick.
“Fetch me my sword” grabs a gun named sword. Plus it has the best Mercutio.
I’m alone in this
Alone with every single girl coming of age in the 90s who swooned over it cuz of Leo “Heartthrob” DiCaprio.
I skipped it back in the day but my gf made me watch it last year and I liked it. Very stylish.
He was actually annoying in it I felt.
Weirdly, I think that is a strength of his performance. Romeo is a misunderstood character: people associate him with romance and chivalry when the Romeo from the play is obsessive, fickle, and impulsive. Kind of a dweeb, really. Juliet fails to see through his bullshit because she is so, so young.
Romeo is annoying as a character, in all fairness.
They’re both annoying af I think that’s half the joke. I’m a big fan of Shakespeare’s sense of humor.
That was huge when it came out. Pretty much everyone I knew loved it. I think it only started getting shit on recently.
I got so much shit for liking it, maybe it was just my school though.
I’m sure there were people who didn’t enjoy it (as can be seen in this thread haha), but even though we didn’t have wikipedia to check at the time I think it was generally known to be big. And checking the stats it opened to box office #1 and then made 10x its budget, and the critics mostly liked it.
Anyway, it fortunately endures as a triumph for basically anyone who appreciates lit.
I remember someone saying it’s like the Rockstar Games’ version of Romeo & Juliet. I liked it in general, but that 90-second or so prologue always gives me goosebumps.
That’s actually a great way to frame it
It was alright but the fact that they didn’t modernize the language is what ruined the film for me. Who the hell spoke like that in the 90s? It made no sense.
That’s… that’s the point. It’s Shakespeare’s words given modern visual elements to make it more comprehensible by a modern audience. It’s the prose of Romeo And Juliet that make it Shakespeare, not the swords and doublets.
Yeah and as someone who hated Shakespeare back in my grade school days (and still does), I couldn’t care less about that. I simply want to see a modern take on his plays with the script translated to a prose that I can actually understand.
As someone with ADHD, it’s difficult enough as-is to focus on words on a page written in a modern dialect, let alone an ancient one! Canterbury Tales was an even worse time for me because of this. I have to be fully invested in the story, or I can’t understand a damn thing in these old manuscripts because my brain refuses to pay attention to anything that isn’t urgent, interesting, or novel to me.
Are you aware you’re asking for something that cannot exist? If you don’t have the Shakespearean prose, it’s not Shakespeare. It’s the identifying element of the thing. You can bend and stretch many aspects of a work, but you can’t remove the identifying elements. For poets, like Shakespeare, their word choice is core to the identity of the work. The ‘story’ is almost meaningless.
e.g. Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening and Loveliest of Trees have the same ‘story,’ a man takes a moment to appreciate the aesthetic qualities of a treed landscape in winter, but one would never say they were the same thing.
Why not? If religious people can update the Bible translations to use modern English, why can’t we do the same with non-religious texts?
Because the goals are different. They aren’t trying to share the poetry of the various original authors of the bible. They are trying to share the stories of the christian mythos to enable/convince people to be christians. We can create things like a movie from a book or translate a book/movie and somewhat call it the same thing (though, even then, it also somewhat isn’t) because the story/plot is the identity of the thing and word choice is considered secondary, but in poetry, so much of what makes a poem itself comes down to individual words and punctuation marks, changing one can be significant, let alone changing the entire text.
As someone with ADHD, it’s difficult enough as-is to focus on words on a page written in a modern dialect
This kinda comes off as someone with red-green color blindness wondering why more paintings aren’t done with primarily blues and yellows.
I guess if you want modern language you could always watch West Side Story.
Different entertainment genre, but Nickelback.
Although I’m reasonably certain that 99% of people who hate on NB would sing along if it came on the radio.
The big problem, at least to me, is that they were massively overplayed on the radio and I grew tired of hearing the same song over and over again.
Now hearing them again after a long break, I can recognize that they made some decent - not great, but still decent songs.
That’s how I feel about Adele. Rolling in the Deep might even be objectively good but it GRATES on me because you’d hear it EVERYWHERE. ALL THE TIME.
I think a lot of decent artists are foisted upon the public so forcefully they become loathed.
For me it’s sweet child o mine. It’s a classic song, but I’ve heard and played it myself so many times that I can’t stand it anymore. I always skip it when I can
We sing along because it was forced on us 😭 a few songs are ok I guess, they’re like the junk food of music, small doses.
I have a friend, whom I typically respect, who surprised me with that hot take one day. He had similar things to say about Creed and Taylor Swift.
Hes also been known to cheat at DnD, though. I love the guy but…
This makes D&D very unfun. You don’t win DnD. You enjoy DnD with friends.
Yeah, as the DM i was very much tempted to call him on it a few times, but i figured it would do more harm than good. So I tried to get creative, which mostly worked.
You’re a good DM
Aww thanks <3
We’re all here to have fun after all.
How do you even cheat at that game?
He fudged die rolls. Claimed he hit or rolled a crit waaaaaay more often than statistically likely. I 100% saw him roll low and claim a hit anyway multiple times.
I can’t bring myself to hate Nickelback because they gave us one of the greatest meme templates in meme history.
I don’t mind their one song. But that’s the thing, they only have one song. (They all sound the same.)
But that’s the thing, they only have one song. (They all sound the same.)
Mumford & Sons, Hootie & the Blowfish, and Live all say “Hi!” and want to know if they can join the party.
Nickelback, Daughtry, i don’t get what the hate tbh.
I am not ashamed to admit that I have their first album, and it’s a solid one with quite a few solid tracks on it. However, I always hated that song, which by far became the most popular one.
I don’t know much about their later stuff, though.
I really enjoy the original live action Super Mario Bros movie from the early 90s. The production was an absolute mess from beginning to end, but somehow, an actually watchable movie came out of it, and the story is actually somewhat entertaining, even if it has nothing to do with the actual games.
Lol the “deevolution” ray that turns a dude into a monke. 😂
That movie was bizarre and wild. I like it too. I firmly file it under “Task failed successfully.” Lol
I have to say I enjoy that movie a lot too. I’m not denying that it’s a terrible movie, but it’s terrible in a very watchable and enjoyable way.
It’s just a fun movie. I don’t know if I only think that because I grew up with it though.
I like the Super Mario Bros movie, I don’t care how loosely connected it is to the games.
I’d watch Bob Hoskins read the phone book.
The old Super Mario Bros movie is a fantastic B scifi movie, it’s just a terrible Mario Bros movie. I still love it!
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There was actually a deleted scene originally in the movie where an executive from Nintendo met with Mario and Luigi to buy the rights to their story and that the movie was actually what happened and the games are the ones that changed things, which I’ve always thought was a fun tongue in cheek nod at the source material (or lack thereof).
I know a lot of films and TV pilots start as a writers original idea, sometimes even a great idea, but for one reason or another never get picked up. Or even worse it does get picked up. But in both cases someone says, “This won’t sell, can you make it Super Mario themed?”
The writer, creative as they are and just happy to get work, then mashes the two together.
I think a film featuring a parallel New York ruled by evolved dinosaurs and deevolution guns is a wild but potentially interesting film. What it has to do with Mario… I have no idea.
There’s so many movies / shows that feel like “They just pulled a generic plot off the shelf and branded it with this popular franchise.”
I think that’s why Paramount Halo was painful. :(
The Last Jedi. It took me a while to even process the hate, and I still don’t really respect it, but I think I understand it. TLJ is flawed but by far the best sequel, and an Ep9 where Kylo is beyond redemption and rebels and force users are bubbling up from everywhere could have been really interesting.
Even if they’d backtracked thematically, The Rise of Skywalker made a huge mistake in overtly shitting on it, literally fucking over its own story (such as it was) and pacing to do so, and thereby pleasing no one. Even if you don’t like what your partner did, you have to “Yes, and…,” not go full “Michael Scott in improv class.”
I thought that most of the movie was somewhere between fine and fun, but that casino planet sequence was so unbearably bad that it soured the entire movie for me. I thought it was poorly-done, ham-handed social commentary awkwardly shoehorned into a strangely long sequence. And then at the end of it, they were in the exact same position they were at the beginning. It took a huge chunk of the second act, and it basically amounted to nothing.
It took a huge chunk of the second act, and it basically amounted to nothing.
Love it or hate it, and the fact that some people will decide they hate it is what I had to come to terms with, this was very intentional and played into the theme of Poe’s arc while letting Finn get the small amount of character growth they layered on in TLJ. It also made it clear that Rose is not so much a fully fleshed-out character as she is a stand-in for the entire Resistance, so she gets a chance to make its case and show its impact. Fighting the good fight is worth it even if, in the short term, it seems doomed. Narratively, I thought Canto Bight did a lot.
The biggest issue with TLJ that I don’t see brought up a lot is that it left no where for the story to go.
We enter the movie with the First Order the only force in the galaxy after only destroying a few planets in the last movie, and somehow the resistance is even smaller than it was before.
We end the movie without really anything changing (except the resistance is even smaller - like 20 people).
Unless it was going to be four movies, TLJ doesn’t leave a lot of directions for the story. It basically has to be Rey trying to decapitate the head of the First Order by killing Ben. Rise of Skywalker fails because TLJ didn’t do anything to move the plot, forcing two movies worth of plot into one.
Yeah, that’s the part that bugged me too. There was so much “subverting expectations” to be clever and huff ones’ own farts…But no satisfying storytelling in place.
It was written like an on-the-fly television show like “Ah HAH this will be unexpected and get eyeballs and maybe we’ll explain it in season 6!” . . .but it was a movie, and it was just over…and a bunch of empty threads kinda went nowhere for ~2 hours straight.
It was entertaining! I watched it and first said “WOW. That was like the BEST Star Wars in a WHILE.” Then we thought about it…and realized nothing actually made any sense. Kinda like when you look at Ai stuff, weirdly enough. Lots of flash but it’s clear there was no actual intent behind it.
Also Finn was supposed to be a force-sensitive Stormtrooper who grows a conscience and turns Jedi. Finn was robbed. That bothers me so much that he just got relegated to backseat supporting sidekick to a cardboard cutout who should’ve had some depth.
Yeah it’s the best of the 3, but it’s also just about the worst middle part of a trilogy they could do. It rejects the setup and doesn’t really set up well for the finale, while going off and doing its own thing. The trilogy was pretty doomed before it, but it was the killing blow
You see, i don’t think so. I think it is definitely redirecting the setup, but apart from sheer number of remaining rebels, I think it tracks really well with ESB. The great victory from the opening movie reveals vulnerability and removes the threat of clean and instant apocalypse, but doesn’t truly alter the new balance of power (sigh… JJ could have given us a functioning New Republic dealing with an insurgency of its own, but no…). Our chosen one meets a reluctant mentor who eventually acquiesces to train her. She has a troubling but cryptic dark side experience and leaves after learning some but not enough. Hero confronts a dark truth about her history but ultimately can’t truly defeat the villain. Through pluck and sacrifice, our heroes live to fight another day and we are left only with the implication of useful resources (“the fleet” in ESB, the allies who hadn’t yet answered in TLJ).
Now, I’ll concede the time jump would have needed to be more like ANH->ESB than ESB->ROTJ for it to work, but I also think the set up for an Episode 9 where the call is answered/being answered could work. In Canto Bight we’re made aware that the Alliance/Resistance’s iconography is inspirational, and we learn that the Force is out there, and there are people who want to believe in the cause of both. Additionally, we have a villain who is struggling between the light and the dark, but ultimately rejects both, as he understands them, to make his own path and pursue his own goals, motivated by emotional torment and a tragic sense of abandonment. There’s good bones there, much better than “here’s a hatful of fan theories. Pick one and let’s chase some mcguffins.”
My take away was that the protagonists were too caught up in being the protagonists and the outcome would have been better if they had just done nothing.
Which just isn’t a very good adventure story.
It’s the GOTCHA! (well that’s a good part of it.)
TLJ is just about the best movie in the whole series. The hatred is 85% pissed-off fans who thought the franchise belonged to them. And the rest is just anti-woke hysterics.
In time, TLJ will get the respect it deserves.
I do think the movie was weak on the handwavium when a few lines could have turned the siege/chase into something a little more compelling. Some of the dialogue skewed a bit Marvel-y, and Finn’s TLJ arc was way too similar to his TFA arc, only nudging forward his circle of empathy a bit. I also wish wish wish somebody had simply said the Holdo maneuver worked because she locked onto the hyperspace tracker: BOOM, two birds with one battlecruiser. Casino planet dragged a bit, but I didn’t mind it nearly as much as others. Maz was wasted, and in some ways, the whole movie actually mapped too closely to ESB (subversion indeed).
However, Luke’s arc hit me exactly right given that they were forced to revisit a Hero’s-Journey hero whose journey was done, because JJ Abrams set up the galaxy in possibly the least compelling way possible. Luke’s return from backsliding into his own old habits, accepting his failure, and using the energy he had left to secure a future for the next generation… that’s good stuff, and a lot of the boomers and older X’s who idolized him would do well to heed the lesson.
The initial tone poem with Rose’s sister was beautiful. DJ absolutely fit as a tweak on Lando and commentary on what all this is supposed to mean. The Poe arc that he can’t simply Maverick his way into leadership, the idea that Rey was no one and yet everything, that Force users and resistance could come from anywhere, and that Ren was on a path apart from Snoke’s but equally irredeemable, all these things were HUGE improvements from TFA and were setting things up for a very compelling finale.
Instead, JJ crammed in his own Episode 8 into the first 45 minutes, left no time to have his own movie make any sense, just channelled Harry Potter and the Avengers for its conclusion, and repeatedly reminded people that TLJ was being undone (“come with us, Rose!” “Can’t! Leia gave me homework!”… We picked “Yer a Palpatine, Rey!” from the hat full of fan theories!), thereby reminding TLJ’s fans that it was being undone, and its haters that it existed. Just a piece of shit movie all around, and to top it off, with my “ACKSHULLY” cap on, it still didn’t connect the tracker with the Holdo maneuver!!!
Finally, for what it’s worth, TLJ is the only ST movie to engage in good faith with the PT, which is something you need to do, even if (like me) they’re far from your favorites.
(2002) Time Machine with Guy Pierce and Jeremy Irons
Wasn’t a big hit when it came out and it’ll never be as iconic as the George Pal Time Machine from the 60’s. But the 2003 adaptation has the coolest looking time machine to come around in a while (at the time it was the most expensive prop ever built, might still be but I’m not sure.)
Critics shit on it for not having the cataclysmic event that destroys humanity be global warming. While I’m all for talking about global warming I can kind of understand why they didn’t use that and why they didn’t reuse the 60’s disaster of nuclear war.
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In the 2002 film humans destroy the moon while nuking underground living spaces to build a low gravity retirement community for the elderly.
But to be fair to the writers their choice to destroying humanity was original, kind of a tongue-in-cheek joke about the elderly crisis we’re currently entering into and the plan is in fact an idea that has been discussed before.
Aside from that the film is pretty solid. In the book by HG Wells and the 60’s film the Time Traveller (doesn’t even have a name) has zero motivation aside from achieving a new scientific advancement. Thats cool and all but modern audiences, having had several successful time travel stories since Wells time, do need a better eureka moment than that. The 2002 film provides a good and believable motivation.
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His girlfriend is killed while he proposes to her. His first time traveling event is going back in time to save her, only to have fate killed her in some other cruel way. So instead of repeating the event he goes forward in hopes someone in the future will figure out how he can change the past.
The film also features a believable super-distant future where the human species splits, just like in the original stories. Samantha Mumba is a member of the tribe of humans that live above ground and are technologically ignorant, thought not exactly like the child-like race we see in the 60’s version. They do maintain that there are no old people and why that is.
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Morlocks are eating them up before they get old and the meat gets all tough and stringy.
Samantha Mumba did a great job in her role and while I don’t normally discuss a persons race the fact her father was Zambian and her mother Irish did kind of lean into what a future race of people could look like. She has a distinct look which played to the role.
Orlando Jones makes a couple appearances as a sort of AI librarian. It’s nice to see him in the odd movie role.
Jeremy Irons is the head morlock, the race of humans that stayed underground, and doesn’t disappoint, although his character is more of a cameo.
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He is the one who eventually explains that the issue with changing the past is a temporal paradox since Guy Pierce wouldn’t have built the machine if his lover hadn’t die, thus she must die because without the machine he couldn’t have went back to save her. Then to save his new future girlfriend the 2 fight to the death and he uses the time machine to sort of blow up all the other morlocks.
The film also had a good soundtrack and special effects that features the classic “years passing in seconds” stuff that was iconic from the 60’s film.
But ultimately the film is mostly forgotten to audiences.
This is one of my favorite popcorn flicks. The first half of the movie is amazing (up to the part where the moon gets destroyed), but I feel like they could have done more to make the second half more entertaining. I don’t know what, but it feels like it’s missing something. I also like how the film predicted the concept of LLMs and giving them an avatar, even though they predicted it happening about decade too soon IIRC.
The core problem is the source material is also boring. Aside from the motivation issues and the fact Wells never even bothers to name the Time Traveller, the whole plot is a bit slow. Sure, the morlocks eating people is creepy but it never manages to get to the horror level like how Jurassic Park or Jaws was able to achieve. You never really felt like they were going to sneak up behind you and slash you or tear you limb from limb.
The changes they made to the story helped: named the character, moved him to New York instead of London, gave him a deep motivation, even the morlocks had a more organized system that was more believable (hunted the Eloi and were controlled telepathically by Jeremy Irons.)
Maybe having more Irons in it would’ve helped but with the plot elements they had to work with it would’ve been tricky. The good thing is they didn’t drag it out, 90 minutes is the proper length. Nowadays they’d try to make it 2 1/2 and it’d be bogged down.
I still like watching the time traveling sequence.
That and the machine itself are the real star of the film. I came across some behind the scenes of the build years ago and it was impressive. The wood deck is all steel painted to look like wood. Since the spinning bits weighed a ton, acrylic and brass, they had to have it be secure. Even the geared computer (forget what it’s called… a baggage computer?) worked. Really impressive prop that doesn’t get enough love. Makes the Pal time machine look like a joke.
I was a young man when this came out and I certainly remember Samantha Mumba’s performance.
Yeah she was fun. Shame she didn’t do more stuff. I’d probably blow up my time machine and live with her instead of going back too.
Definitely!
David Lynch’s Dune. I understood the hate it got. It is a horribly difficult book to put on film. I thought the style and feel of it was great and so over the top at times. I read the book so I knew what was going on but I understood the criticisms. Sting in a speedo though, wtf? lol
Edit: Almost forgot, a great lineup of actors too.
Best Dune movie ever and I’ll die on that hill. Never read the books and I had no problem following it.
I’ll join you on that hill.
“I did not say this. I am not here.” Goes so damn hard. Too bad only the guild decided to act in that scene.
I loved that scene. So otherworldly. The guild gave that machinations behind the scenes combined with alien feel. The imperial look is like a combination of the Shah of Iran mixed with 1600s royal Spain mixed with WW1 royal navy.
The hallucinatory scenes on Giedi Prime horrified and fascinated me (I was way too young when I watched it).
“Some body once told me, the world was gonna roll me, I ainʻt the sharpest tool in the shed…”
All Star is on my hate list because I’ve heard it too many times at this point. It joins
- Don’t Stop Believing by Journey
- Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen
- Nevermind by Nirvana
- A few Red Hot Chili Peppers songs
You forgot the killers - Mr brightside
You forgot something that you’re going to start remembering very soon
you sonofabitch
I meant Mariah Carey, not The Game.
Oh right, that song I heard too much Last Christmas
You’ll probably hate this then
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Scrubs s9 and the Star Wars prequels.
Sucker Punch
The internet has been shitting on it for years. I don’t even remember why. Maybe something along the lines of sexualizing female hero figures. I think a lot of people don’t like Zack Snyder. I don’t care. It’s stylish as hell, looks awesome, has fantastic action sequences, and a killer soundtrack. And it has a whole inception vibe. I love watching it.
Man, this movie is such a trip! Definitely not great, but I don’t think it’s that bad.
Sucker Punch
This was a movie that was like “hey! wouldn’t it be awesome if there was a world where the nazis brought back dinosaurs to fight with- Wait! wouldn’t it be cool if there was like, a world where space travel was affordable and we had a moonbase an-wait! wouldn’t it be cool if there was a world where-”
And each time I’d be like “hey, there will be cool lore and world-building I’d love to see aaaand they already shifted into a different thing.” That movie pissed me off so much. Shoulda just been either a softcore porn, or leaned more heavily into the idea of a real-life “Heavy Metal” remake.
I love that movie and I think it is a lot better than most give it credit for. Snyder is either overhyped or over shat on in most cases depending on whho you talk to. But sucker punch is pretty good no matter what.
Reversed but I think french is a horrible sounding language and the only reason people think it’s sexy or romantic is because popular culture tells them it is. It sounds like a coughing fit. Likewise I think german sounds cute, and again I think most people don’t because popular culture tells them german sounds like an angry man yelling. “Hallo, viele dank, bitteschön” it’s always so light and cautious.
The only exception is somebody moaning “oui” and “ja” respectively.Can’t think of anything on top of my head, so instead I’ll ask: What makes you say that Resident Evil 4 is a “masterpiece”? For me it completely ruined the series. It went from survival horror to action shooter when RE4 was released, and every game since has been an iteration of that.
To me that’s not Resident Evil. The fun of these games comes from the horror of not knowing what’s lurking behind the next corner, and the fact that even one zombie can ruin your night. RE4 removed all of that by placing the camera behind the player, and then turning zombies into cannon fodder that swarm you by the masses. That’s not Resident Evil for me, and for that reason I consider RE:0 to be the last good game in the series. (Not including the remakes of course; I’m only counting new entries.)
The thing is, your opinion is the majority. I’m the odd one out here, and I can’t for the life of me figure out why. One theory I’ve been told is that for a lot of people, RE4 was their first Resident Evil game, in which case I can understand liking it if you never knew how good the old games were. I also understand that the tank controls can be off-putting, but that can be bypassed by mapping forward to a button other than up, that way you can move and turn at the same time (also the remakes give you an option to turn off the tank controls). So I really can’t think of any other reasons why one might prefer RE4 to past titles.
I feel you. My first game was Resident Evil 2 on my N64. I LOVED that game as a kid, and then I moved on to all the other ones. I think Code: Veronica is my favorite though. RE4 absolutely ruined the series. The enemies using weapons and having complex thoughts was just such a departure from the original BOW enemies. I still played all the rest, and enjoyed them, but I had to kind of pretend it wasn’t Resident Evil.
On a separate note, why the hell can’t they make ONE FUCKING MOVIE that is even in the same ballpark as the games?? I have yet to see the most recent one, but I already know it can’t be set in the same timeline as the early games, based on the weird enemies that clearly aren’t from the T-virus.
“what makes you say that Resident Evil 4 is ‘masterpiece’”
Mainly the gameplay. Ya, it feels dated, but it also feels intentionally as it makes you think strategically about your approach. It also allows a variety of gameplay styles
As for why the statement I made is a unpopular opinion, is because people praise RE4 (rightfully so), but are mixed on how action heavy 5 & 6 are. I’m just someone who likes action and dislikes horror (the opposite of most RE fans)
Well like I said, my problem isn’t that it’s dated, but instead that they modernized it too much by turning it into an action game with puzzle elements, rather than a puzzle game with suspenseful elements.
It seems to me that you like RE4 for all the reasons why I hate it. So is it safe to say that I was right when I guessed that RE4 was probably your first Resident Evil game? I think my opinion is so much different because I started off with the original.
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Rosamund Pike, Karl Urban, and The Rock all in one movie? I know what I’m going this weekend now
And a ridiculously haunted-house-like FPS sequence that was pretty freaking rad. It was a nice homage to the source material.
