well i sometimes use ai (sorry i hope i will stop using it sometime soon) but because nobody wants a machine to do everything if it did everything humans wont have a productive way to spend their time (not accurate since i am not 100 percent against ai)

and also it justifies big tech control (nothing in this post was written by AI)

and a lot more

They claim to automate the work so we have more time to focus on imporant things. Has this ever happened? We got computers, productivity went up, and we still work 40 hours and are poorer than previous generations. In a time of climate crises, they take our dwindling resources so people can create stupid images and videos. I want to see creativity being shared.

Besides, everything AI learned is stolen from people who put the work in. I want people to visit my website, that I worked hard on. I don’t want some LLM telling you what it “learned” from my work. I know search engines purposely make their results crap so the only way to get information is to use an LLM nowadays and I admit I use LLMs for that reason. I can’t just google what I need anymore most of the time.

The Fediverse is generally-to-strongly anti-corporate. 98% of LLM AI is owned/controlled by corporations.

Decades it pro, working on central stuff.

The current ai aka LLM is based on an illegal foundation, has high training and running resource cost and produces results that everyone in their field has to at least rework. This is while there are comparatively lightweight solutions that produce good results.

Not even mentioning the environmental and financial impact.

So yeah it’s a tool and can be trained and used for useful things but it’s sold as the solution for everything (especially them milking money) by the tech bros which it is absolutely not, leaving a wake of destruction and massive brain drain.

The worst part is that superficially it looks the part and higher ups in the business ate the most gullible people.

This is just a starting point, but the insane amount of pollution and constant disregard for a better way of doing things was the first reason I dropped it. Even if it was a good, reliable product, the way it’s produced is egregious and wasteful: https://youtu.be/t-8TDOFqkQA

Same reason that Luddites hated the textile factories. Its a tool but its the kind of tool that distances us from our work in a way that undermines our collective humanity.

It doesn’t seem to have much use. Supposedly we’re all going to have AI do our work for us and we’ll have more free time, which is the biggest load of bullshit I’ve ever seen.

It’s not nearly everyone. Possibly not even the majority. It’s just the ones who do tend to be very vocal about it.

My understanding is that it stems from the opposition against big tech in general. The reasons for being against AI are not dissimilar to the reasons why they oppose Facebook, Google, Twitter and such.

If you make slop you have to prove that it’s not slop, not the other way around

Locally hosted models are less egregious than corporate cloud models that actively harvest and monitor your data.

Corporate AI feeds the surveillance machine, that in turn is used to suppress dissent.

That and GenAI output in anything creative or market-based gets very same-y and gives the end user an impression of the creator not caring to put in effort. Perceived low effort = spam.

Lastly, genAI gets pushed into everything. It’s a matter of simple oversaturation and it gets exhausting to have it seemingly everywhere. Not having the option to turn it off becomes, well, a turnoff. 🤷🏻

almost everybody here agrees that all AI is bad

If your eyes look only in black and white, then you believe that all people were actually only black and white as well. Even when they are colorful, you don’t recognize that.

I’d say that it’s mostly people worried about job loss from technological change.

I don’t have a problem with generative AI, but a number of the people who don’t like it are very vocal. I’m not going to run around making a big deal out of my position on each post the way some of them do.

I mean I disagree on the premise. There is an extreme ai is great side and an extreme ai is crap side. Both sides take the middle takes as being the other extreme. Many many memebers of the federation have nuanced takes and they evolve. I initially was disapointed with llms and was worried about their energy usage. Since then they have improved and like all technology they are likely to continue to improve. For what they do I no longer think they necessarily use to much energy. The issue is they make it to easy to do energy intensive things. Non artists are throwing up crap because they can and non coders are throwing up crap because they can. Much of it has no real value to society. I mean even when professionals who spent a long time learing did these things very often the majority of output had little real value. Now its overwelmingly so. Part of the reason for this is the subsidizing of the whole thing. To make matters worse business practices are integrating such that they are losing quality and efficiency. Don’t get me wrong this has been going on at a slower pace before the llms. Given global warming this massive use of energy and the fast rate of expansion is not good. Anyway a super pro ai person only sees the negative from my view and would look at it as anti ai and super anti ai folks only see the positive and would look at it as pro ai. It really reflects the extreme right/left in politics where you see something similar. Its all tribalism really.