• Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network
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    10 months ago

    Knowing Rockstar put off development of this game for as long as they did just so they could milk GTAO for every last penny makes me hesitant at best.

    I have never been let down by a GTA campaign, but they know where the money is, I’m hesitant to believe they will give this one the attention it deserves after seeing the profits from GTAO. Or maybe I’m just pessimistic

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      GTA5’s campaign was fairly good, but it sucks they abandoned the planned additions and shoved the assets into GTAO only. I do not care to play GTAO, but I would have liked more things to do in single player. Knowing that this is likely going to have single player solely as a pipeline into GTAO though, yeah I’m sceptical too.

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      10 months ago

      I just wonder if they can actually figure out a way to make GTA online actually fun. Because It really isn’t a good game mode.

      All of the online modes that are actually fun are all modded servers. The mental servers are awful you spawn in and get blown up instantly, how’s that fun?

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        10 months ago

        GTAOnline has suffered from feature pile-on. I think there’s an official software development term for it, but I can’t remember it. It’s fun, aside from the astronomical grind and push for shark cards (but there are ways around that wink wink) Even considering that, getting into it as a new player is wild.

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          10 months ago

          there’s an official software development term for it

          Scope creep I think.

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            10 months ago

            That’s probably the wrong term. Scope creep is when you’re working on a project and you keep adding new requirements to the design before you finish the existing ones. Your scope creeps further and further into the future. GTAO is a project that is available, and increasing scope hasn’t seemed to delay new content.

            That said, I don’t know what the “correct” term would be either.

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              I usually think of scope creep as adding more and more work items, like this: you’re building a bridge between two buildings. During design, you find out one of the buildings has terrible foundations that should really just be replaced. Scope creep would be deciding to replace the building foundations as part of the bridge project.

              It’s possible I’m not using the term correctly either though. Maybe what I’ve described instead is design creep, or something.

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      10 months ago

      RDR2 was still phenomenal after getting the GTAO money. Rockstar can still make great single-player content when they want to.

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        10 months ago

        I agree. It’s just that this is the same series… Idk maybe it will kick ass, I’m just overly cynical I guess lol

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          10 months ago

          My expectation is that it will be very good, but will have no single player DLC whatsoever in lieu of GTAO2 or whatever they call it. And no, I’ve never forgiven them for doing that with V. At least this time I won’t be expecting it.

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            What if it doesn’t need DLC? When the concept of DLC first came out, everyone complained that devs were just releasing unfinished games and that you were obligated to buy DLC to enjoy a full experience. Now people only buy games because they’re expecting DLC?

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              Because Rockstar did some good DLC for GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I agree that DLC isn’t a good thing if it’s carved out of the base game, but Rockstar had a good track record of making good DLC for already feature-complete games.

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          10 months ago

          Unnecessarily cynical. The same series? Are Vice City, SA, and 4 considered bad games?

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            10 months ago

            Did you even read my initial comment?

            I explicitly said that I have never been let down by a GTA campaign. What I was saying was that RDR2 is a different series that plays by different rules. For that reason I don’t feel like it’s necessarily fair to use RDR2 as an example of how they will treat GTA with the respect the series deserves.

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      They finished GTA V release in 2015, released Red Dead Redemption II in 2018, and this will be 2025

      Sounds like continuous development to me?

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        It’s 10 fucking years. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all less than a couple years apart. They need to reuse that strategy of working in parallel and reusing the game engine for a few sequels before moving to the next generation.

        I’m confident they would’ve released more games if GTA Online wasn’t such a money printer for them. For those of us that liked the single player though and didn’t touch online, it’s been a while!

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          Games were way lower fidelity and quicker to make back then, bro. It’s nowhere near the same thing.

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            10 months ago

            It took billions of years to make pacman and 14 years to make pacman 2. They should be able able to make GTA 6 in a week. GTA 7 should come out before Christmas.

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          It’s 10 years since last GTA. In the middle there is a little game known as Red Dead Redemption 2, which is massive and took the whole studio to make.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah I played that one. Also pretty great. Hope they build another one soon. It’s already been 5 years.

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      10 months ago

      They’re not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing a new game only to focus on GTAV online.