A Ukrainian soldier named Serhiy, returning from Russian captivity, has reportedly been found mutilated with swastikas carved into his forehead, as disclosed by Dr. Olexandr Turkevich, who is treating him.

The soldier, blindfolded during the ordeal, claimed Russian soldiers threatened to dismember him, citing accusations of fascism.

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      Keep in mind, the IDF has killed more civilians in 2 months than Russia has killed in 2 years.

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        Not a fair comparison. The Ukrainian military is actively moving civilians out of combat areas and not choosing to wage guerilla war from densely populated urban centers.

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          This exactly. One can absolutely debate the methods of IDF, but literally no one could wage war in Gaza with few civilian casualties. Gaza is almost one huge city while Ukraine have massive rural areas around every city. Had Russia waged war in Gaza, they’d have killed at least as many civilians, and in my opinion probably a lot more as well.

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            Maybe don’t wage war in Gaza then? It is not truly needed, there are ways to combat terrorism without leveling a city. And let’s not forget Netanyahu funded Hamas because they benefit of the war.

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              This is not the point. The point is that comparing civilian casualties between a war in Gaza and a war in Ukraine is an apples and pears comparison.

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                So you think Israel is justified in killing more civilians in 2 months than Russia has killed in 2 years?

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                  This thread is about Russia. I was not the one bringing Israel up.

                  But no, I don’t think that is a good thing. But it has nothing to do with Israel being “more evil” than Russia. Russia cares zero about civilians and would have killed at least as many had Ukraine been a mostly urban warzone with Russian air superiority. But Ukraine isn’t, so therefore less civilian deaths.

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              Out of curiosity, what would have been your recommended response to the 7 October attack? I’m not saying Israel is handling this the right way whatsoever, but I see a lot of people make statements like yours without any specifics.

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                Leave Israel. They’re surrounded by enemies and the only way there will be peace is if one side genocides the other.

                They never should have been there. They are only there because of the religious nationalist movement known as Zionism.

                Nobody is entitled to live anywhere because of their religion.

                The world would be a better, more peaceful place if Israelis just relocated to the USA.

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                  So why not move Palestinians if migration is your solution to this problem? Both, Jews and Arabs, have lived in this area for thousands of years.

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                    Because Israel will still be “surrounded by enemies and the only way there will be peace is if one side genocides the other.”

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            It’s not about having few civilian casualties, it’s about having fewER casualties. Gaza is extremely densely populated and civilian casualties are pretty much unavoidable, but it doesn’t mean you have to level entire city blocks or bomb the exact places you tell civilians to go. There’s plenty Isreal could do to reduce casualties, they simply won’t.

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              Again, one can absolutely discuss the methods of the IDF. The point here is simply that you can’t compare Gaza with Ukraine when it comes to civilian casualties.

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                You can’t compare the actual numbers but you can compare the actions sides take to prevent casualties. Your comment came across as “there’s nothing IDF could do to reduce casualties” when the reality is that they could and they just don’t.

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                  “Came across”? Right. Then I could say bringing up an unrelated conflict, no matter how terrible, in a discussion about what Russia does comes across as a putinist move.

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                    Sure. The other guy is also an ass for bringing up an unrelated topic, and if you had originally said what you just said we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But you chose to continue that unrelated discussion in a way that I’ve taken as defense of IDF actions. So maybe address what I said instead of deflecting.

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                You absolutely can and I will.

                Try to say the numbers don’t matter is just willful ignorance.

                Do you think Israel is justified in killing more civilians in 2 months than Russia has killed in 2 years?

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          You’re right. Israel is justified in killing more civilians than Russia.

          My bad.

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        We’re doing whataboutism? In that case, keep in mind that Stalin killed more people than Israel ever did.

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          I’m pretty sure most people who have a problem with Stalin have a problem with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

          The problem is that there are people who think Russians are subhuman invaders while Israelis are heroic defenders.

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        And Dschingis Khan killed so many more people. How does one genocide exonerate another?

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          They don’t. People should be as critical of Israel as they are of Russia, if not moreso.

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            Any Zionist is now also openly supporting genocide. That very much makes them the bad guys. The fact you’re being downvoted demonstrates too many people are too fucking stupid to even apply their own morals, because I KNOW they’d all bitch to no end if the “wrong” civilians were killed.

            Also it’s a dumb point to push. One terrible regime being bad doesn’t say ANYTHING about a different regime.

            It points at American hypocrisy, but you’d have to introduce that topic, not just slam it on the table and declare victory.

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          Are Russians the only ones responsible for the thousands of species humanity has driven to extinction? The climate collapse?

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            I think climate change is one of the biggest issues we are facing today and we need immediate action.

            And yet, I think this is such a shit take in this thread.

            Yes, all humans are causing climate change, but the Russian government and military are insanely evil and are on a path of genocidal destruction.

            Arguments like yours only hurt the climate change cause as you alienate people.

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              I think climate change is one of the biggest issues we are facing today

              It doesn’t matter what you think. It doesn’t matter what I think. We are way past the point of no return. As far as I can tell, humanity is the villain. I’m hoping the climate apocalypse is enough to wipe us all out for good, to limit the damage we can cause to the natural world. Worst case scenario, we become space faring and spread our plague to other solar systems.