“We do sweeps for spam/scam accounts and sometimes real accounts get caught up in them,” Elon Musk wrote on X, responding to the temporary ban of at least 8 accounts, including those of a handful of journalists.

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    10 months ago

    The problem is that we’re scattering. A handful to Bluesky. A smattering to Mastodon. A pittance to Lemmy. Building a unified community on a single platform again will take years.

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      10 months ago

      Most clued-in people have moved to Mastodon as the Twitter replacement; it just hasn’t been fully noticed by the mainstream as the new platform. But a lot of the journalists etc are there. Unifying the Lemmy platform with the Mastodon platform to make them interoperable for real seems like it’d be a really good thing.

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        So, kbin? It can interact with both Lemmy and Mastodon at the same time. If you boost a lemmy post on kbin, you essentially retweet (retoot?) it to mastodon under the hashtags associated with the community.

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        10 months ago

        Don’t get me wrong it’s great the number of accounts that have moved there, but we’re not even close to where we need to be to make one platform the go-to place like Twitter was.

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      Hopefully what emerges will be harder to dismantle at least. Especially since it seems there’s a vested interest in killing these unified communities.

      Our best bet right now is the EU at this point.

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        That’s how Linux happened. Microsoft got so good at eliminating competition, and so lazy about making a product that was more than barely-passable, that it created a unique combination of “we want something good” and “something good cannot be constructed” that drove a whole generation of techies to get familiar with Linux simply because there was no good alternative for certain types of serious computing. The selection pressure of “any competitor company will get destroyed” eventually produced a competitor that wasn’t a company.

        I think that’s what’s happening right now in social media. For a long time ActivityPub went nowhere, and then the big players all got so godawful that you couldn’t ignore the godawfulness, and now look what’s happening. It’s not because Mastodon and Lemmy are great “products” as such; mostly, people just want something that’s not shit. Then in the longer run the selection pressure will create something that’ll be a lot harder to kill or control.

        It would have been easier for Facebook and Twitter not to be shit, but apparently that’s too much to ask. I think the ultimate outcome will be way for the better this way.

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          Linux also only has a 15% market share if you include servers, while Twitter was the place for journalists to give up-to-the-minute updates. It’s going to be difficult to get people to get away from that, just as it’s difficult to get people to stop using Windows.

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            That’s not exactly what I was saying… Linux powers 70% of the cell phones in the world, 96% of the top 1,000,000 web sites, and literally all of the world’s supercomputers.

            I’m not saying your 15% number is wrong, just that including end-user desktops in the “market share” misses the mark of what I meant when I was talking about serious computing. I wasn’t talking about trying to replace Windows as an end-user system of choice. Windows arguably still does a better job than Linux does at that, just as fediverse may never replace Tiktok. I was talking about suppressing competition within a different badly-needed niche creating a more resistant competitor in the long run.

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        Yes. Because people go where other people are. Until people start coalescing on a specific site, Twitter is still going to be relevant.

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      It’s about a unified message and unified ideology; it’s not about having everyone on one website.

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        It’s about being able to effectively spread that unified message, which having disjointed platforms impedes.

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      That’s really the beauty of decentralized federated platforms though. People can be scattered to multiple platforms that do their thing but can interoperate with other platforms still. Granted, we’re still in sort of the infancy and ugly part of development and growth but so long as momentum doesn’t die out, it could be the new norm sometime in this decade.

      However, I fear, much like the world-wide web, something who’s potential for humanity is so great can be ruined by business strategists and marketeers after all the hard work is done by people that genuinely care and sacrificed so much effort for the benefit of everyone else.