‘Our long-term objective is to make printing a subscription’ says HP CEO gunning for 2024’s Worst Person of the Year award | Not satisfied with merely bricking printers, HP now wants to own them al…::It was only the other day we reported how HP has been slapped with a lawsuit in response to measures that disable its printers when fitted with a third-party ink cartridge. Now the company’s CEO,
I will thank him for his honesty and straight forward communication. I now know never to buy an HP printer.
I have a Brother laserjet I got on Amazon for $70 10 years ago. I print on it occasionally, and it always works. That thing has never needed new toner. It never jams. It just keeps going. Highly recommend finding a basic laserjet model from that brand.
I, too, love my old Brother laser printer. Their website is absolute garbage though. I don’t know what they did to it, but it is just slow as hell.
Definitely spend the extra $10 for duplex printing or regret it for the rest of your life.
(Seriously, why even make non-diplex printers?)
My guess would be someone who doesn’t know React well made it. I don’t know React well and I’ve made some atrocities. You forget to wrap one statement in useEffect and it’s all over.
Companies can change. I have a HP LaserJet 6P that I use with a LPT-to-USB adapter. That thing still works fine. From that anecdote I could also highly recommend HP. But that printer is now 25 years old or so and the company changed a lot since then.
Brother could have changed in those 10 years. Or it could change in 10 more years.
I’ll go one step further and never buy another HP product of any kind!
Just happened today:
Employee asks for toner for an aging HP Laserjet printer since it’s out. I look it up and it’s $198 for black (it’s not a color laser). I immediately looked up a Brother laser with an ADF scanner/copier and it was $199. High Yield Toner is $15 without a chip from a reputable 3rd party. Office is getting a new Brother printer delivered tomorrow and it’ll work 100x better.
HP, this is how you kill your printer division. Short sighted idiots.
Legit question like I bought an Epson tank printer. I don’t use cartridges. I don’t use anything with HP on it right? So if they decide that they want to screw you over but they’re not a monopoly, wouldn’t we just go elsewhere? How is this a win for them? I just feel like they’re digging a hole for themselves
No?
Epson is only marginally better with the Ecotank, the components are dated to fail within 2 years after the warranty. That being said, they’re second best to Brother because they actually price ink fairly.
What do you mean by dated to fail?
I’m guessing he’s leaning on brand power and the exec thinks he can convince the shareholders because subscription is guaranteed income. He’s probably assuming the other big printer companies will follow suit and offer the same kind of service. In the end it won’t last and it will kill their printer business once everyone wises up to the fact that there is, at least, one better alternative. My office staff now won’t buy anything else they’ve been so impressed with the reliability and ease of use of the Brother I got a month ago to start replacing their old equipment. Word of mouth and shared experiences are still very much alive, and that’s his misstep.
Of course, he probably doesn’t care since he has a golden parachute and this will keep making him money in the short term.
High Yield Toner is $15 without a chip from a reputable 3rd party.
What are some reputable toner companies? I just ordered some E-Z Ink brand toner for my Brother printer, and I’d like to know if I should cancel it and go with a different brand instead.
EZ Ink is who we use at home and it works exactly like the OEM stuff.
My inkjet hp started to throw error codes at me last month.
I bought a refurbished brother laser printer and that thing is awesome
You can do even better buying plain old used instead of refurbished.
I got a pair of MFC-9340CDWs – with duplex and color – off Craigslist for like $50 each a couple of years ago (one to use, and one as a spare). Even if I have to buy a new fuser relatively soon because the ones in both of them are almost worn out, it’s still an incredible deal.
Damn for a color one at that… That’s amazing
Yeah, their refurbs are great if you can get one before they sell out. That’s how I scored my first Brother for $99. Thing is a champ at home.
Yeah I acted quick, instead of 249 new it was $179 refurbished
How much I would love if EU pulled a USB-C on printer ink/toner.
“All printers must be compatible with one of these X possible formats of ink/toner. Lockdown is forbidden too”
Sure the printers would be more expensive but I am sure we would see an incredible improvement in quality and decrease in ink/toner cost
Sure the printers would be more expensive but I am sure we would see an incredible improvement in quality and decrease in ink/toner cost
Probably because everyone but Brother would step out of the market.
Win?
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Oh no step brother printer, don’t leave the market.
How much I would love for America to stop letting it’s corporations get away with these things so we won’t have to wait for the EU
“This is the ink we use. Everyone use the same ink. Cheaper, easier, better for everyone.”
“But sir, that sounds a lot like something Communists would do!”
The famous Marxist customer protection
Customer protection sound super communist.
Long time Brother Laser Gang member here, and toner cost is not an issue. Averaged over the last decade it’s cost me like a couple bucks per year.
fuck these goddamn late stage capitalist monsters, they’re fucking living caricatures.
Shame this won’t pass: https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-and-colleagues-introduce-legislation-to-combat-corporate-greed-and-end-outrageous-ceo-pay-2/
I wouldn’t ever count a Bernie bill out, no matter how unlikely it seems. He has a reputation for getting things passed. His nickname in the Senate is “the amendment king”
The “late stage” part is unnecessary. This is just capitalism working as intended.
Right? This is just deregulated capitalism being really good at extracting wealth from us peons.
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Buy Brother, better printers without all this subscription garbage.
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How long before an ‘open source’ printer hots the market and terrifies this idiot CEO?
If he hasn’t been scared by Xerox, Brother, and Epson, he won’t be scared by a FLOSS printer. At this point, the only people who buy HP printers are those who don’t even google it and remember hearing the laserjets were good circa 1995.
Maybe so, but there are people who aren’t scared of bears and get mauled to death. If he really is that dumb he won’t hear the impending doom.
i am desperately praying for a pineprinter
OkiData makes good business class printers too. The upfront cost is high, but the cost per page is low, so if you’re printing high volume then it’s cheaper overall.
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And since the CEO said this I will literally never buy an HP product again period
Very happy with my Brother laser printer so far. It just works. Hasn’t held my prints hostage for any online ink subscription renewals… yet…
They also just have famously shoddy build quality, with everything they make.
Greedy rent-seeking garbage humans would make breathing a subscription if they could. And the sad and scary part is that for some reason there are people ready and willing to pay for the Premium Oxygen Subscription Plus with unlimited breaths per day and the Gold Blinking Packaage added for free for the first month ($99.95 after that)…
The irony is that even that satire didn’t envision something so cartoonishly evil as a subscription business model.
Just so long as they don’t have to think about it, subscriptions are just fine with such people. 🤦♂️
It’s simple actually. Don’t buy HP products. Even their laptops have huge quality issues and flawed motherboard designs. Their firmware updates are known to brick motherboards. Even if you are under warranty, they won’t give you a new board, instead they’ll give you a refurbished board. FUCK YOU HP.
My company is an HP partner. I use a Lenovo.
That is quite funny, my objective since 20 years ago is to not buy anything with the HP logo.
This really doesn’t seem like a very good long-term investment. Over time people are printing less, not more.
If you make it difficult to print they’ll make the active effort to move away from your product, which is especially bad given the people are moving away from printing in general anyway.
Which is why they have to extract a much as possible from their dimishing customer base that are essentially forced to still use them and this have no real choice.
Except other companies are still in the printer game.
Got a new brother color laser for under 200 a few weeks back.
Sure. One sets precedent the others follow as always.
With each new HP news article I grow more pleased with last year’s decision to ditch HP once and for all and get a Brother.
The Brother just works. Even surprises me in some scenarios where I anticipate lack of support and it comes through anyway. Great printer!
what a literal fucking psychopath. i mean literally imagine waking up and thinking these things. imagine trying to actively make the world worse like this.
oh yeah i’m trying to make bathrooms a subscription
i’m trying to make food a subscription
i’m trying to make tv a subscription
i’m trying to make clothes a subscription
i cannot wait to live in paradise
i’m trying to make food a subscription
Hello Fresh, Blue Apron, and a few others have entered the chat.
This is what every MBA lives and breathes. He’s just saying it out loud. Which up until now was a faux paw.
This is why for the one or two times I need to print something a year I just go to the library and pay them $0.10 a page to print something out.
I bought a refurbished laser printer at a garage sale for $30 8 years ago. Still printing off the original toner
My printing has become so incredibly rare that even paying $0.50 per page st a ups/fed ex store is a better deal than having a printer. I’m not even sure the printer my wife insists on keeping is compatible with windows 11, which is basically all our PCs now.
Because of a single printer manufacturer?
Because of basically ALL printer manufacturers. I know people like Brother printers, generally, but why pay something like $60-100 for a printer when you only need to use one a few times a year?
For me the cost savings are pretty huge.
The big difference is convenience. I’ve got an inexpensive Brother laser printer. It is probably 12 years old now and is as good as the day I bought it. I’ve only replaced the toner cartridge once or twice. I set it up on my home server so it’s available on all of our family devices (well, not the phones). When the kids wake up in the morning and suddenly realize they have to print off their homework for school, it’s no problem at all.
At least in the Netherlands, there’s a bunch of places you can print including your own school for free.
I don’t own a printer because the cost to constantly refill cartrages feels like a subscription already. I just go to the UPS store for the 3 times a year I actually need to print something, on a for-realsies printer that someone else maintains. usually costs less than a dollar every time I go.
I print whole books from the printer at work.
I work at a Starbucks.
Why does Starbucks have a printer?
Because there are administrative tasks to be done in the back office.
Yeah they print us all the time in the back office.
Staples by my house has my printing business. Maybe 20 pages a year?
The moral of the story is don’t buy HP anything. Already trying to replace our large format latex printer from HP over this. Fuck that guy.
