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    I was happy for a second and then remembered that karma is a bad take and that he will be getting the absolute best available healthcare and even if he does die, he will be doing so having gotten to old age, in extreme luxury and in more comfort than any of us will ever experience.

    I worry that if he does die soon it will only embolden royalist sentiment in this country as the grieving masses will cling on to the “young king” which the media will spin as “progressive” or whatever, and we’ll just keep getting further and further away from abolishing this disgusting establishment.

    We seriously need a King Ralph type thing to happen, only the people take over, instead of a stereotypical American. Turn Buckingham palace in to a community centre with a kitchen and a shelter and childcare and a free mental health clinic, and put those gardens to actual use…

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      I can understand you wanting to abolish the royal family (I do too), but I can’t understand your hatred of him personally, to actually be happy he has cancer. He doesn’t seem like a bad/evil person to me

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        You don’t exterminate mosquitoes because they are evil, you get rid of them because they are parasites, unable to exist without feeding on you and your loved ones. They are disease vectors, it’s us or them.

        The royal family feeds into hierarchical structures. They benefit from our subjugation. They knowingly and intentionally contribute to death and misery worldwide for their own benefit. If Charles was a decent man he’d abdicate.

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          So petition for the monarchy to be dismantled. Write to your MP. If there’s enough support for it maybe we can get a referendum for it. Though unfortunately I don’t think there’s yet a significant majority of the public that do want that.

          I just don’t get being happy at him having cancer. That doesn’t even bring us any closer to dismantling the monarchy. But I guess you must have reasons for having more hatred for him that I’ve not been exposed to

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            When have you ever seen a petition change a single thing? You really think that signing names on a piece of paper would be sufficient to take down the Monarchy?

            You realize how naive that is at best, right?

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        If sitting on a gold throne, in a gold room, riding around in your gold carriage, covered in jewels, none of which were (or ever could be) “earned”, but rather pillaged, without even knowing what a days work feels like, while the people you’re parading your “god given right” to lord over, and whose wealth you hoard privately overseas, are having to choose between heating and eating as they work 3 zero hour jobs just to survive - isn’t considered evil in your mind, it is your moral compass that is the problem, not me feeling momentary joy when a cancer gets cancer.

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        He cheated on his wife, very publicly for years. Idk about your views but maintaining a mistress immediately excludes you from being a good person. Charles was a prick for a long time before he started committing to charity, conservation, social outreach programs, etc

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          No disagreements about about him being a prick, but wishing cancer and even death on another person seems pretty wild to me.

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            Please point to where anyone wished cancer on anyone?*

            Also, the fact that people don’t feel sorry for the filthy rich old man getting what is almost certainly an age related disease (because it’s not like he was exposed to the levels of shit food and air and stress that gives the rest of us cancer), is wild to you, but the existence of a “god appointed” ruler that leeches off of his people while they struggle to survive isn’t, says a lot more about you than me not giving much of a shit does about me…

            *E: you know what? Even if I had, wishing death on a person whose entire existence depends on the oppression (and death) of others on a mass, almost unimaginable scale, is still less morally repugnant than defending them. ¯\(ツ)
            Eat the fucking rich - they’ve brought it on themselves.

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            I don’t think that wishing death on someone is always bad but I don’t really get it for King Charles

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        But he was only happy for a second and since they believe in karma, now they aren’t happy. Nobody said no take backs so they’re probably good.

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      Karma is a lie white people tell themselves so they can continue to believe there’s justice in this world.

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      What exactly do you hate about him? Is it his stance on climate change or the Prince Trust maybe? The Royal family are an important source of culture, tourism, and soft power when the UK’s overseas influence is waning. What good to you think will come of getting rid of them?

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        The Royal family are an important source of culture, tourism, and soft power

        The Royal family isnt an important source of tourism.

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          Palaces like Versailles and Sanssouci get millions of visitors every year without a group of racists and pedophiles around and actively in power to give it some greater meaning.

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        What good to you think will come of getting rid of them?

        We’d become a proper modern country where the person who represents the nation is chosen by the nation? We’d move on from a system where who’s up front simply depends on who their mum or dad were? We’d rid ourselves of a system trained with centuries of imperial exploitation, racism and subjugation? We’d open up new tourism opportunities, with the palaces and castles being available for anyone to visit, a la Versailles?

        And that’s just off the top of my head.

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    It will be so funny if he takrs a sharp turn downhill and dies. Dude was famous for never getting a chance to be king and then to go out so quickly would be * chef’s kiss *

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        Do you think they have any compassion for the random proles like us? Like they could divest themselves of wealth to help people, and just live luxurious lives instead of gold flakes in food lives.

        I think any human being with enough compassion to deserve treatment as anything more than a hostile enemy would do that

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          I think they’d have compassion enough to not laugh at somebody’s cancer diagnosis, yes.

          I’m all for disliking the institution. Doesn’t mean I think he deserves to have cancer or it would be funny if he died.

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            He literally chooses every single day to actively ignore the plight of the people he claims to rule. He does nothing

            Every single day he actively chooses to ignore suffering, probably even cracks jokes about it, while actively working to preserve his enormous privilege and protect his kin from facing consequences for their heinous actions. He stands at the head of an institution of violence, racism, cruelty, and exploitation and every single moment of his life he chooses to side with that over any earnest attempt to redeem their reputation.

            The entire justification for their privilege is so insane it makes phrenology look respectable.

            He is horrible, he could help so many people with a few words and the equivalent of pocket change but he chooses not to for fear of starting a process that ends with him living as one of the ordinary citizens he claims to protect. It’s fucking bananas that you think there is some moral reasons to extend civility to such a monsterous person.

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                It’s not brave or noble to police expressions of anger at oppressors it’s just foolish. It won’t make society better, civility is just a tool the powerful use to enforce the status quo.

                He chooses to let someone starve over feeding them, this is fine a civil behavior. I call him a fucking cunt for doing that and wish death upon him and this is uncivil behaviour and I lack compassion? nonsense, it is compassion that fills me with rage.

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      Imagine anyone saying that about one of your family members.

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    The royal family, including Charles are big proponents of homeopathy. Let’s see how much homeopathy is going to help him now. I’m sure at least as much as those alternative methods Steve Jobs chose helped him, back then…

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      You’ve got to be kidding me. Is it corruption or stupidity? As in, are they selling vials of contaminated water as medicine or are they just known to trust pseudoscience?

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      Nah, he was doing his dream job the whole time, running a research farm and advocating for sustainable farming practices. Soon as he became king, he had to stop with the targeted advocacy.

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        he also advocated for homoeopathy…maybe that’s what he’ll treat his cancer with (i hope so)

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          I recently got the side-eye from a lot of people because I said that homeopathy is not the same as natural remedies.

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          Ah the Steve Jobs treatment method, maybe he’ll adopt the fruit diet. Shame Harry gave up his claim, he seemed like the one with Lizzie’s spirit

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    I love the people in here standing up for him lol. An absolute fuckton of people die every day. Basically every moment has human death in it. No one defending him cares a single wit about them, but they’ll get wound up over this old man dying of something many many people die of daily.

    Considering everything that’s come out about the royal family, I can’t find a single care in me for him. I feel more for the countless faceless strangers dying worse deaths. This old pampered fuck will die well in comparison. He doesn’t need any sympathy from me.

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    Prostate cancer is very common, very survivable, and very easily treatable. It’s a serious health problem, but he’s almost definitely gonna be fine

    Me fail reading comprehension. The article says it’s NOT prostate cancer

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      No, he’s completely out of the running unless all of King Charles children and grandchildren mysteriously die

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      I think it’s primogeniture monarchy, so it’s from parent to child. Next in line is Charles’ firstborn.

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    Would be weird for the longest serving monarch to be replaced by the shortest serving one.

    Which raises a good question… who was the shortest serving British monarch?

    Oh, of COURSE there’s a Wiki for that…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchy_records

    "The shortest-reigning monarch was Lady Jane Grey who ruled for 9 days from 6 July until 15 July 1553 (although she was only proclaimed queen by the Lords of the council on 10 July). Her husband Lord Guildford Dudley was her consort for the entire reign, making this the shortest tenure of the male consort of a female monarch. Note: Jane’s reign is disputed.

    The king with the shortest definitively known reign was Edgar the Ætheling who ruled for 2 months, 12 days in 1066 before submitting to William the Conqueror. Some records indicate that Sweyn Forkbeard reigned for only 40 days in 1013–4.[7]"

    Queen Elizabeth II died 9/8/2022, so Charles has already been in 514 days. He’s good…

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      And least he got to be king first :P

      I haven’t seen any new coins yet with his face on it. It may be the shortest run of coins with a new face. I’ve had the same face on my coins for my entire life, these will be the first with a new one.

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        Shortest run was probably Edward VIII. My dad found a coin with Charles’s face on it. I also bought a few commemoratives. I think it’ll probably start appearing on £1 coins soon as they are the newest

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      I dislike the royals, but ultimately any person suffering with cancer is deserving of sympathy.

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      Do you want a list of the atrocities committed by the English monarchy?

      Hate for this family is deserved

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      Please for the love of anything you love stop crying for monarchists and bring back the guillotine. For FUCKS SAKE YOU’RE LITERALLY THINKING LIKE A MIDDLE AGES SERF. GOD EMPEROR SHIT RIGHT HERE

      If any of you fucking liberals ever say ANYTHING about communist countries having cults of personality I’m going to haul ass and personally take shits inside your house that will leave you confused for years to come

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      Yeah the news and world news subs really took a tumble of late. I came for some modicum of intellectual debate, but it’s a shame how quickly that derails.

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      for this guy, who leeches off the work of real human beings and hides child rapists from justice? absolutely, my hate for him is a source of strength and pride, I’m glad to have it on display.

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          As an American, if I got cancer like this dude has, having a job there is a very high chance I’d be destitute IF I lived. World class medical treatment off the backs of his subjects… yeahno my dude, worlds smallest violen playing.jpeg

          He can wipe his cancer tears up with whatever the largest denomination of pounds you guys use is xD

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            And when a president gets COVID he gets drugged up and gets the best treatment on the taxpayers dime. While the people are left with life shattering medical debt.

            While these subjects can get medical treatment, for just a fraction, and no debts… Like the king…

            So what is your point?

            We have been playing the whole sad orchestra for you guys, seeing you push out this attitude like it is a win over something.

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              The president has an actual job tho??? Like wat lmao 🤣 and if you think the king is getting the same medical treatment as Mr jo British bong water, I have some EU membership to sell you.

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      So if he croaks and his brother and sister and niece and her fried Stacie all croak, who’s going to be kind? You guess it! Rufus the cat.

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    I just got my first Chucky Buck this weekend, we can’t switch to a new currency this quickly! Our economy is in shambles!

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      See mate, the mint make a profit on money, do you think it costs £50 to run off one of them little plastic things.

      Edit: just realised you were one of our dear Canadian brethren. See hoser, the Canadian mint make a profit on money, you think it costs a loonie to strike of them little metal things?

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        Sadly the Canadian mint takes a loss on every coin and bill. Every $50 note they create actually costs about $65 (with the tip).

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    oh no anyway

    but in all seriousness I hope he dies that guy is a piece of shit

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      When I signed up here, I genuinely thought this place was going to be better than Reddit. Seeing the difference in comments here and on Reddit for this exact same piece of news, just made me realise that this place is a piece of shit with absolutely zero empathy for anyone.

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        Nah its just a leftist echo chamber. They have sympathy for the working class, but are very prejudiced against the wealthy. Personally, I would guess Charles is a decent human being, like most people. Im sure hes done some shitty things over the course of a long and extremely public life, but pretty much everyone has. I disagree with the concept of royalty but that doesn’t mean I want all monarchs to drop dead. Not a lot of nuance on Lemmy.

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        I understand your frustration but I fail to understand why the need of empathy for a monarch of all people

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    Our royalty are really just diplomats with better PR and a lot less privacy. Poor guy just lost his mum, now he’s got cancer - I hope he recovers.

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      He will receive better healthcare than 99% of the population after living a life drenched in privilege.

      My sympathies lie elsewhere

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        You know sympathy isn’t rationed, right?

        Yes, he’s lined in unbelievable privilege. Yes, he’ll get the best care available. Yes, it is reasonable to believe and campaign for the monarchy to be abolished.

        But this is still a man who has been diagnosed with cancer. For anyone, that is a scary and upsetting diagnosis and, upon hearing about it, it is only reasonable to feel sympathy for that person.

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          Don’t even bother. No one here cares. They want him and his entire family to die horribly.

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        I mean, I also feel sympathy for you.

        There is a lot of hate there, and someone/something must have really hurt you to make you feel that someone deserves cancer because they’ve had money in their life.

        I hope whatever you’re going through gets better, that whatever has happened in the past becomes more distant, and that today is a lucky day for you.

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      I hope he makes a full recovery, but you know, the jokes write themselves.

      Now is the time for Scotland and Wales to declare independence and join the EU. It would be hilarious.