• BarqsHasBite@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    So is this how it starts? China pushes until Taiwan defends itself, the China blames Taiwan for aggression?

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      8 months ago

      It’s the kid on the bus who keeps shoving the quiet kid over and over and over, but it’s not big and flashy so nobody notices. Nobody listens. Nobody cares.

      Then the quiet kid punches the bully in his goddamn rat face and suddenly the quiet kid is the problem child.

      The problem existed long before the quiet kid fought back, and they knew, it was just ignored by the people who could do something about it until it was too late.

  • fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I just looked into the history of Taiwan and China and it looks to me like the previous government of China lost a civil war and then retreated to Taiwan.

    Really puts into perspective all the useful idiots saying “Taiwan is China.” They’re literally following the same logic as “the South will rise again.”

    Propaganda is real. Indoctrination is real. Tribalism is real. If you feel you’re immune to them, then you’re probably the most susceptible.

    Please get mad at anyone who calls it out.

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      8 months ago

      You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.

      The Republic of China retreated to Taiwan in the Chinese civil war when the communist party took control, yes. No, nobody expects the CCP to fall and the ROC and Kuomintang to return to the mainland.

      Also the KMT aren’t really good guys anyway, they’re a pretty nationalist right-wing party.

      But I don’t really see what that has to do with this story.

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Its not really like the US analogy. The confederates were completely beaten and surrendered. After the Chinese civil war, the CCP and Red/PLA didnt have the chops to cross the Strait to Formosa, so they just stopped, and Taiwan became its own country. Much like how North Korea and South Korea entered a stalemate and became seperate countries.

      Both Taiwan and South Korea were born as dictatorships, and gradually transitioned to liberal democracy, whereas North Korea and PRC never got the memo.

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      8 months ago

      I don’t understand your comment and it seems that nobody did. If you mean that CCP are tribalists for claiming Taiwan as theirs, I agree with you. Sorry for the downvotes. As they say, you are a little confused but you got the spirit!!