My insurance bill is higher per month than my monthly payment on my car is. This is after shopping around for insurance.
What’s unusual about that? My insurance is infinitely higher (I own my cars outright).
Because I live in a shit no fault state. 0 accidents, 1 ticket in 20 years. (Fuck Ohio.) My insurance should be cheap. It’s not though because they scale what I pay off everyone else.
Yeah I’m in Ohio also - 0 accidents, 1 ticket in 20 years. And I’ll be adding a 2nd teenager to our coverage this year. Ugh.
My partner broke down into tears when I told them how much adding one was going to be.
And everyone clapped
lt’s not a flex; it’s because my cars are old and cheap.
I can’t hear what you’re saying because I’m transfixed by your big muscles.
Hmm, it’s almost like we should focus considerably more on simple vehicles instead of complex subscription shit boxes that we have, to cut down cost of manufacturing/materials/parts/labour and now insurance…no big money in that though.
Or you know …public transport is also pretty damn good option over any of this. Something drastic would have to change for trains/buses/etc to become commonplace in NA though, at least in some EU countries and a few other countries in the world there’s a bit of hope.
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My rates jumped quite a bit too and I’m 36 years old. Two vehicles and a house. Zero tickets and accidents on top of that.
Last few years we were paying ~ 2k a year for home and auto with two cars. We’re both in the 40-50 age range with perfectly clean driving records.
Last year it jumped to 3600 (we use a broker) and we shopped around and it was still the cheapest plan. Our agent said it’s because all the COVID relief/incentives expired. Funny how that never came up in conversation or was ever reflected in a bill.
TL;DR: A bunch of dumbasses forgot how to drive during the pandemic, so now accidents are up and so is insurance.
Also we have to drive massive and super expensive cars so accidents are worse and more expensive.
Bought a house in 2021, registering my insurance at the new address DOUBLED my rate. $220 a month for 2 cars. No accidents, nothing, just bought a house and changed address.
Most people don’t realize that your address actually has a huge impact on insurance. Moving less than an hour’s drive for me caused a change of nearly $100/month.
I just moved ~30 minutes away and saved $100/mo as well. Insane difference.
Yeah, I moved 12 miles away once and it would have doubled my insurance. I just made a deal with the apartment owners that they would grab my insurance bills and I would keep my address there on insurance forms. I moved from that new place a couple years later into a new apartment, and the insurance was still much higher than my original zip code (though not doubled). I just kept my insurance at the first place for the next 6 years, because there was no impact on a daily basis.
It wasn’t until I bought a house and was forced to change my address for house insurance that I finally “moved” away from that first apartment.
I did the same and it more than halved it moving from a southern to a northern state.
Car manufacturers can’t secure their shit and insurance companies have to punish everyone because of their incompetence.
One manufacturer in particular that wanted to save a buck on immobilizers, namely Hyundai Motor.
But it’s the same with homeowners. People live in areas prone to hurricanes, tornadoes, and fires, only for the rest of our insurance to skyrocket right after another mass claim somewhere in the south or west.
Don’t forget KIA (Kia Boyz challenge) And people also like to build massive houses right next to the ocean and with them raising and engulfing the houses. These asshats always get paid out
Hyundai Motors owns a massive amount of Kia and was largely responsible for the decision.
Ah wasn’t aware of that
And yet, car insurance is too cheap in the U.S: https://thewaroncars.org/2024/03/19/122-car-insurance-is-too-cheap/
Cars are quite simply way too expensive, both on an individual and societal level.
My work had to change auto insurance providers after they increased their premium by 350% at renewal time. No specific explanation given of course - “rising costs through the industry”. Apparently the new provider is about double the original rate. Got us all worried it would happen to our cars too. No ones mentioned anything since though. Only a matter of time I suppose.
Also why people are driving less and not buying cars.
I just switched insurance companies and my vehicle insurance went from 360€/y to 320€/y and property insurance went from 570€/y to 430€/y
maybe giant death machines are hard to insure?
Interesting. I’m college age with a clean record and I have a motorcycle that I’m insuring for $210/year. Granted, it’s a 2006 Suzuki GZ250, not exactly a fast motorcycle, but I’ve looked at the rates for other bikes with my provider and even a new literbike is around $400/year.
A lot of work you could do on a car yourself prior to 2018 is now impossible because everything in the car has sensors that talk to the on board computer. Replacing a side mirror should not involved sensor hookups.
You say that, but vehicle and collision sensors on mirrors are legitimately an amazing safety feature that should be standard on all models. Those sensors have personally saved me a couple times when someone comes up next to me when I’m trying to change lanes.
I don’t drive, and because traveling is always a direct cost to me ($20 Uber each way to the mall just to watch a movie hurts), I’m not convinced when my friends tell me how much money I’m saving. But with stuff like this, maybe I am actually saving money…
Average annual cost of car ownership is something like $12000 depending on how you calculate it. That is enough money for you to take one of those $40 round trip Ubers to the mall almost every day, and any of those style trips you can replace with transit or active transportation is even more money in your pocket, if you can swing it with your locale (don’t want to assume)
Get a ebike
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Did we read the same article? The point is about more severe crashes.
If you have data to back your point up, I’d love to see it. I’m not aware of any major changes in vehicle purchases. I’m not sure how that matches with more overall crashes, as the article reports.
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Huh? It says 17.4%, where did 90 come from?
AI hallucination?
No, that’s not what is driving this at all. The replacement cost of a vehicle has increased significantly. That’s the root cause.