Put your money where your mouth is and open source the Tesla software. Do it. I fuckin’ dare ya.
Edit: we want Falcon 9’s landing guidance software too.
Open sourcing the falcon 9 software would almost definitely be a violation of ITAR… On second thought it would be fun to see him go to prison.
Nothing could possibly go wrong open sourcing a
misslerocket guidance system…Source code is protected under 1st amendment
That’s like saying state secrets are protected under the 1st lol
I don’t think it’s true
Source code is
While courts have ruled source code is first amendment protected. Your statement is still very very wrong. Just because it’s first amendment protected doesn’t mean it can’t be classified normally or made illegal to leak because of ITAR.
But go leak some of the source code from XKeyscore or a schematic of a pair of GPNVG if you’d like to test our code classification and ITAR systems.
I’m not taking about sealing some government secrets. I’m taking about building a fun hobby project with some sort of targeting system. Think a small rocket that drops a payload or a water balloon launcher.
Okay but that has no relevance at all to what the comment you were replying to was about. Companies contracted by the government and DOD specifically to create rockets are guaranteed to be covered by ITAR. Meaning open sourcing them would be impossible, regardless of the first amendment or anything else.
There’s a massive massive difference between the software for a DOD contracted rocket like SpaceX makes, and hobbyist rocketry.
In the U.S., you can build rockets all day long, they cannot be guided.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332g
You’d have to convince the feds it was never designed to be a weapon. Good luck with that.
I think there has always been and always will be exceptions for military technology.
Oh yeah I forgot about the first anyways the guy who really killed JFK is
No, not just open, free it entirely. License the code under a GPL license.
It’ll probably be MIT… just like the rest of the corps.
I want a world where anyone can go to space. It the thing I wanna do the most. But I’m not rich and I’m no super smart and I have awful health.
I know what you mean, but if it’s any consolation, you are in space.
I want to be in space by myself
Blanket fort?
How do you know you aren’t alone?
Because of all the noisy motherfuckers around me all the time.
My dog barks at walls and is constantly reminding me of the inevitability of our ultimate demise.
I’m sure she hears things.
I mean, you right lol
We gotta figure out a better way than strapping ourselves to a continuously exploding bomb and pulling some serious Gs for 8 minutes.
Wonder how some of those SSTO space plane projects are doing…there was a British one I can’t remember. Used hybrid air-breathing scramjets, switching to internal oxidizer once it was going fast and high enough.
Edit: here is is and I was mistaken it’s not a SCRAMjet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylon_(spacecraft)
Space planes carry along heavy-as-fuck wings, control surfaces and a lot of other bullshit that’s only useful inside the atmosphere, and which massively increase fuel consumption for every single maneuver while your space plane is actually where you want it to do stuff - in space. And the only benefit is that the atmosphere helps lift and fuel your vehicle to about 10% of orbital velocity. The other 90% it will have to accelerate just like any other rocket.
The SpaceX approach is much better: Land and reuse all parts of your rocket, but don’t carry them with you further than where they’re useful. Rockets leave the atmosphere where wings would work within a few minutes anyway.
Yeah but…most people’s grandparents aren’t going to be riding rockets. This isn’t sustainable for widespread access to space.
Do you really want countries like North Korea, Iran and China having access to software that would certainly be used for missile guidance?
Why not. If everyone has it, everyone will be afraid to use it, because they know everyone else has it, but what they don’t know is how many have developed a working prototype.
Ehh, mutually assured destruction has worked so far, but there are some crazy assholes out there who might not act rationally.
Yeah, that is true.
Yes like in America gun violence never happens because everyone has guns.
Hmmm
Careful Linus. This guy may start claiming he is a confounder of Linux any moment now.
Musk certainly is confounding.
What? You didn’t know he was Linus’s right hand man back the?
Please don’t fucking touch anything to do with Linux Musk. Please.
Crazy, rich South Africans is how we got Ubuntu
But would you like to upgrade to Ubuntu pro?
Ubuntu pro is not at all a bad thing. It’s free to consumers but you can also just ignore it if you don’t need it.
Can we disable the prompt?
The ssh prompt? I think you just need to mess with the files in /etc/update-motd.d
The prompt on the desktop that says there and pending updates that can only be installed with Pro.
I’ve been using Ubuntu for about 3, years now on the desktop and I don’t know what you’re talking about. Where exactly is that prompt? And they’re not hiding updates behind pro, it’s just extra on top of the updates you’d get on other distros.
It’s free?
It is for up to 5 devices, so small-scale homelab stuff can be covered without cost.
How tf does one do that
Does what? Sign up for ubuntu pro? For that you just need to go to their website and register. For the homelab stuff you could start small - maybe a linux nas with a few VMs for a pihole or something.
Ubuntu is a gateway drug to Arch.
And arch is a gateway drug to NixOS or gentoo
Select your drug now
I smoke my Linux with a filter.
Ah, a Zorin user
I have selected Fedora. Where did I go wrong?
Something something IBM something
I’m an Arch user flirting with the idea of NixOS. Is it too late to save me?
Hes to far gone SMH
I ran nix for awhile and it was super stable, i just kinda got bored of using it. I know its really powerful with nixpills and flakes.
It’s also how we got snap packages and apartheid, and I’m not even sure which of those is worse. (yes, I’m joking)
Par for the course
Linux Musk sounds like the evil counterpart to Mint. A fork of Red Star OS, etc.
Linux Musk Cinnamon. Yours for a modest subscription.
I mean Tesla cars are just x86 Linux machines
The nice thing about Linux is, he can’t buy it and fuck it up.
He can still fuck up the community.
How?
Let me put it to you this way.
Elon Musk fanboys, now running arch.
Just… Let that simmer for a minute.
Anyone smart enough to run Arch is smart enough to recognize Elon is an imbecile.
you literally have to run installation script or follow instructions from arch wiki. slap some de to it and you’re good. doesn’t take a smart person to do.
to properly maintain it for longer periods forever though, takes some more skill.
He’ll claim he invented it
Well, he at least invented X11…
Popularize among his follower base and make it cringe to use Linux
Just like chromium is safe from Google?
Chromium was, however, a Google product from the very beginning that Google open-sourced themselves. Linux is too big with too many non-profit and for-profit companies and tons of independent individuals participating in its development for one person or company to control it outright.
I mean, sure, for profit companies like Red Hat, SUSE, Canonical do have some influence but not so much that you can’t ignore their contributions if you don’t like them.
For example, some ubuntu based distros (i.e Mint) circumvent snap from being installed the ubuntu way (without asking) because it goes against their philosophy. And if that’s still too much Ubuntu for you, there’s a Debian Edition of mint. And if that’s still too same-y for you, there are dozens of other distros based on slackware, rhel/fedora, arch, Gentoo, etc. There even are Linux distros without GNU.
So, unless Muskiboy buys Linus Torvalds, I think the Linux community could easily ignore him building his own xOS.
Eww, we stepped in some Elon… 🤢
oh, so that’s why its so musky in here
Welp, off to macOS now. Sorry guys I can’t be a part of this community anymore.
Too expensive for me. FreeBSD it is!
Time to boot up the old windows 98 machine from the closet and start making my own modern app alternative.
I’d rather go for Win95, now that dotnet9x is out there and I can run modern software: https://youtu.be/CTUMNtKQLl8?si=zM7L49Y4wuDL_XYN
Plan 9, here I go!
There’s always BeOS.
Remember BeOS and how it was going to be the future?
Poor BeOS.
(Yes, yes, Haiku. But who uses it?)
I ran haiku on a laptop at one point, actually supported it really well
It’s probably a good OS, but I doubt it will ever become the dominant new OS was hoped BeOS would become.
He’ll realise his own distro and call it OS X.
LinuX
LinuS
LinuE
LinuX
LinuY
Lynx
(it’s the British name for Axe deodorant)
The lawsuits would be hilarious.
This is good work.
LinuseX
Realistically, he would call it ElonOS, hire a bunch of shitty systems programmers to cobble together a bullshit operating system mostly comprised of code stolen from other open source projects, insist that it be written in python because “python is critical to AI,” talk about how the OS integrates with AI seamlessly while having no actual AI in it at all, sell it with a tiered subscription that locked basic functionality, like being able to use the file system, behind a paywall, and then quickly abandon the project and fire everyone involved, having made no real money from the venture but still referring to it as a “triumph of engineering.”
All that, but he has said he loves the letter X maybe XlonOS.
If he wants to name it after something he loves, he could name it ApartheidOS, EmeraldMineOS, ApartheidEmeraldMineOS, etc. The possibilities are endless.
LinX
I really want him to do this. Could you imagine the fallout from the war between Musk’s lawyers and Apple’s lawyers?
a broken clock is right twice a day
No this dipshit just says whatever he thinks is going to be the most popular with the tech bros he is desperate to be in front of.
He could always learn it. Maybe go to his local community college and take a programming class. He could take an intro physics class as well. Might help him out.
If he had any part in Tesla productions, he already would. Or any part of SpaceX.
He’s a funny guy.
And, how does what you said cancel out what you responded to?
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Not sure what relevance a broken clock has to the discussion or the OP.
It’s an expression. In this context Elon is the broken clock and saying desktops should run Linux is one of the rare times he’s been right about something.
rare times he’s been right about something.
Started a space company, and an EV company. Both longshots, both wildly successful.
Bought Twitter. Laid of 80% of the employees. Still runs totally fine.
Your position is nakedly indefensible. I’d be curious what you think he’s actually wrong about.
I feel they are criticizing his actions morally rather than financially.
Quick, someone pretend to be “the Linux company” and convince him to buy it!
Noo, I don’t want Linux to be sold to Elon…
But they’re playing pretend
Broken clock.
He will release X-OS, a fork of Ubuntu, which is half broken, and has Grok integrated in it.
He’ll get sued by Apple for infringing on their OS X trademark, and he’ll invent laws claiming he’s in the right, and he’ll lose billions, and then he’ll claim he invented Linux and he’s a genius.
I kind of want to see this go down. There are a few companies you don’t fuck with. Apple is definitely one of them. I am sure their lawyers are just as smart and soulless as Disney’s
Musk has been using x.com since the Mac OS 8 days.
He’d easily have prior rights.
He sold it into PayPal, then bought it back from PayPal a couple years ago.
Not sure how trademarks work, but I think it gets stickier when it’s used for different purposes. like how there’s Starcraft trailers and the game.
Unfortunately, XOS has already been taken by Infinix, a budget phone brand that primarily sells in Africa, for its own ad-riddled bloated Android skin.
Is it going to be a Ubuntu from though? I can see his engineers coming to him saying we should fork Ubuntu for many very good reasons. Then he does to much ketamine and then tells them to use DistroX, because the X
(I can’t actually tell if DistroX is real. I could only find one reference to it. But hey is that going to stop Musk)
AntiX?
You would think but this is what LinuxInsider said about it.
AntiX Linux: Not Pretty but Highly Functional
So no way could he use it.
This is the one reference that I found. I assume that if DistroX ever existed it is long dead.
https://softiq.io/a-comprehensive-guide-to-linux-distros-the-good-the-bad-and-the-quirky/
Based off the Ubuntu 24.04 release, which already seems half broken, it’s perfect.
Is it purely because Linux has the letter “X” in it?
First thing he’ll do is write Torvalds and suggest a minor change to the naming.
given Linus’ flair for writing replies, I would love to see him rip into Elon.
LinuX: in honor of the LinuX Foundation’s new sponsor, X.
He’ll get very virulent in the X vs Wayland debate before he even learns what these mean.
Elon just tries to get approval by finding a dominate opinion among a group of people and parroting back what they say and want. Kinda obvious and pathetic.
But maybe this one correct take negates the 517 instances where he made it look like he was a grade-A asshole last week alone.
Nah, it’s just the 0.004% probability coming out.
Sorry Elon you, specifically, have to go to space before getting involved in Linux. It’s the Shuttleworth law.
The Space Shuttleworth law?
Fuck off Musk.
