• lennybird@lemmy.world
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        Well you see the proliferation of firearms always benefits the violent criminal over the heroic defender. Always. It’s a losing race.

        Even back to the Wild West, places like Tombstone and Dodge City would come to implement gun control laws because, surprise, being mutually armed doesn’t help when the other guy has both the element of surprise and willingness to fire first.

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        On average, the rate of a vigilante saving the day is one in 7,000. There’s no record of the number of shootings caused by bad vigilantes, though, so we don’t know if that 1:7000 is a net-positive.

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        You may have to wait 'til Tuesday* for the next TV-publicized mass shooting, but it wasn’t twelve hours before the next actual mass-shooting event occured:

        • 1 death and 7 surviving victims of a shooter on 2523 W Broadway, Louisville KY USA 40211, with no arrest shown

        Note that the mass shooting in Arkansas is almost a Mass Killing, as a 3rd victim has now died.

        In general, there are on average more than one mass shooting every day in America, and often a high number in a day. On the 15th of June, barely a week ago, there were SIX mass shootings - Cincinatti, Southfield MI, Rochester MI, Detroit, RoundRock, Tuskegee - and 4 of the 51 total victims died. SIX MASS SHOOTINGS reported by newsmedia IN A DAY, but the record I think is 8.

        Anyway, I just came to say you may not need to wait four days for the next one, that 4 hours is usually plenty. 'Murica.

        *Voices carry.

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        Many of these criminals used to be a “good guy with a gun” until, one day, it snapped.

        There’s a reason why the US stands out of gun violence, and it’s the easy access to weapons.

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      No, we’re not banning guns because that requires a Constitutional amendment, not going to happen. We couldn’t pass an amendment making 06/21 Chocolate Chip Cookie Day.

      But to those of you with this facile “BAN” argument, I have a couple of questions. Why wasn’t this shit happening when I was a kid? EDIT: By “this shit”, I meant mass shootings.

      You could order whatever the hell you liked from the Sears catalog. LOL, I have a pump shotgun that was sold in Western Auto stores. You could ride around with long guns mounted in your truck window. And yes, you could get an AR-15 in the 70s.

      Only way I’ve seen laws become more permissive is regarding conceal carry. (I can argue both for and against this.) On every other front, more restrictions.

      So what’s up? Not an easy question, I know. It would take a shelf full of books. We don’t know what happened here, but does it really matter to attack this issue case-by-case? It’s happening. It didn’t used to happen.

      I’ll say it 100 times more, America doesn’t have a gun problem, America has a culture problem.

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    I used to be anti-gun, until I found out that Canadians own guns at the same rate as TEXANS. We Americans are losing our fucking minds. We’re kept at each other’s throats to distract us from the fact that the 1% are fucking us all over.

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      Look at the regs surrounding gun ownership in Canada.

      Not the same animal at all.

      Plenty of countries allow guns, but the rules for their use and ownership are far more restrictive than the relative free for all we have in the US.

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      We didn’t use to … until the NRA and America’s 2nd Amendment defenders started pushing across our border. Source

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      I don’t understand. Are you assuming every person in California is a Democrat and every person in Texas is a Republican? Those are the most populous states in the country. You are looking at a huge chunk of the country, of course they both have tons of guns. Every state has tons of guns.

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        The stat that I had read was that on average Texans own guns at a rate of 4 per person, so for every person that doesn’t own any, there has to be someone taking up the slack. The joke is that Texans are a distillation of what America is to the rest of the world: loud, obnoxious, and absolutely sure they’re right.

        The point I was trying to make is that even though Canadians own a shitload more guns per capita, they have far less gun violence than us.

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    The ONLY way to this could have been Prevented was if the Officer SHOT the gunman First before he could KILL anyone! And the only way the Officer could have known there was a Crazy Murderous Gunman afoot was if he simply SHOT everyone in the store! Therefore Police should be able to Murder people without cause.

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    One law enforcement officer was among those wounded, Arkansas State Police said.

    Maybe if enough of their heroic boys in blue that they salute with their special flag are wounded, we’ll start being able to talk about guns like adults.

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      Or politicians. And let me be clear to the mods and admins I am not advocating for this I am simply stating a fact.

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    “What gun problem are you talking about? I only see a freedom problem, and that’s the best type of problem to have!”