Imagine trying to shit on someone’s faith, then the person calls down Jesus himself to put your fingers in their nail wounds and then he makes his dad hurt you for good measure.
Point is how’d that guy not believe in the force before that? No “parlor trick” is that good…
I took it that they disagreed on the usefulness of his power. Vader said nothing compares to the force and the guy disagreed. I don’t think he was swayed into thinking the force would crush the rebellion because he, an individual, got choked.
I could see it, but even in the original trilogy, Vader was not demonstrated to ever be particularly restrained in his use of the force. He would have at least known that Vader had a habit of casually force choking to death anyone that pissed him off a little with zero repurcussions. Even if he thought that wasn’t powerful enough he would have kept his mouth shut.
I don’t think he wasn’t believing in the force, he just wasn’t buying the mysticism surrounding it and didn’t think it’s such a big deal. He knew Vader is a powerful force user, but the Death Star is literally one shotting entire planets, so the force didn’t feel that significant to him in the grand scheme of things.
Imagine trying to shit on someone’s faith, then the person calls down Jesus himself to put your fingers in their nail wounds and then he makes his dad hurt you for good measure.
Point is how’d that guy not believe in the force before that? No “parlor trick” is that good…
I took it that they disagreed on the usefulness of his power. Vader said nothing compares to the force and the guy disagreed. I don’t think he was swayed into thinking the force would crush the rebellion because he, an individual, got choked.
I could see it, but even in the original trilogy, Vader was not demonstrated to ever be particularly restrained in his use of the force. He would have at least known that Vader had a habit of casually force choking to death anyone that pissed him off a little with zero repurcussions. Even if he thought that wasn’t powerful enough he would have kept his mouth shut.
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Or more precisely, George Lucas didn’t think it out that much.
Maybe he just wanted to be chocked. He was definitely asking for it.
Poor guy was drowning in debt and terminally ill, and this was the best way to secure his kids education.
Now they talk of him as a fool.
I know. The prequels maybe weren’t well thought out. That shit talker would have served among the Jedi and during the purge.
I don’t think he wasn’t believing in the force, he just wasn’t buying the mysticism surrounding it and didn’t think it’s such a big deal. He knew Vader is a powerful force user, but the Death Star is literally one shotting entire planets, so the force didn’t feel that significant to him in the grand scheme of things.
Very fair point.