A federal appeals court has agreed to halt the reinstatement of net neutrality rules until August 5th, while the court considers whether more permanent action is justified.

It’s the latest setback in a long back and forth on net neutrality — the principle that internet service providers (ISPs) should not be able to block or throttle internet traffic in a discriminatory manner.

The current FCC, which has three Democratic and two Republican commissioners, voted in April to bring back net neutrality. The 3–2 vote was divided along party lines.

Broadband providers have since challenged the FCC’s action, which is potentially more vulnerable after the Supreme Court’s recent decision to strike down Chevron deference — a legal doctrine that instructed courts to defer to an agency’s expert decisions except in a very narrow range of circumstances.

Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Matt Schettenhelm said in a report prior to the court’s ruling that he doesn’t expect the FCC to prevail in court, in large part due to the demise of Chevron.

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    From the outside it really seems that a large amount of the USA administration is actively working against the USA’s interests. Which sounds weird.

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      It depends on how you define “the USA”. If you mean the people of this country, then absolutely they are working against us. If you mean the people with loads and loads of money, then no, they are working as hard as they fucking can for them.

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      “The administration “ usually means the Executive Branch, the FCC, which in this case is trying to do a good thing. Net neutrality has long been supported by a majority of voters, and has been active on party lines: Democrat majority is trying to do the right thing for their constituents

      In this case corporations affected sued to overturn and the court, the Judicial Branch, issued a stay of enforcement until the final ruling.

      This is very much a problem of corporations having too much say, and one of the parties protecting corporations over citizens

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      It’s absolutely true, the republikkkan party is all about licking the boots of the corporations and shitting on the poor. The only helpful things they do is to make the ultra rich richer. It’s too bad their base is brainwashed and too stupid to see it. I work with a clown and he keeps bringing up all the bad shit the republicans do and blames the democrats for it. It’s wild. I said to him you do realize that it’s the republicans that did that, not the democrats right? He looked at me and said I’m an idiot for believing that. I showed him the proof and he said I was making it up. You can’t even talk to these people anymore.

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    I’m more of a free market guy than most of y’all, but the internet should clearly be treated as a utility.

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        18 hours later: Crickets

        They aren’t going to answer this question. Nobody reveals their stupidity on purpose.

        Besides, we already know what all the Capitalist propaganda says. We know what the answer would be.

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        Yeah random guy on the internet, justify yourself

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          That’s not what I asked them to do. I disagree with free markets, but that doesn’t mean I’m resistant to learning from other people’s perspectives.

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            I didn’t mean you were, that just sounded strangely judgemental for a question asked to a random person on the internet who you probably never saw before and will most likely ignore it

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              I get it, but maybe they won’t. They definitely will ignore my question if I never ask!

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      Telecos hate the idea of free market on the internet when they are providing the service.

      From their perspective, they are entitled to that cut… Why should Google get it all?

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        Maybe because we’ve been paying them a tax since the early 2000’s to provide fiber broadband to the majority of Americans, which they have pocketed and refused to actually build any infrastructure to support this?

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          Critical thinking has been spotted!

          Telcos are the worst of corporate parasites, at least telsa built a car and SpaceX built a rocket, and Boeing can build a plane

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      I feel like everyone within developed countries should offer everyone a bare minimum free internet access. Like, even if it’s as slow as dialup, at least it would still be access.

      Then, if you want high speed internet, which I’m sure most people would want, then you pay monthly for that of course.

      But this whole thing they’re doing now, where they can throttle or even block sites at their own discretion for paying customers, well that’s just totally back-asswards…

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    you know… I don’t think I could pick many better ways to remind a population that they are nothing more than chattel.

    superior quality rulling there, supreme court.

    /s on that last sentence, cuz you never know.

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    I find it absolutely astounding that the president appoints the judges for the highest courts in the land.

    Which fucking morons thought that would be a good idea? That’s obviously going to be abused.

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      A bunch of slavermasters invented this system for exactly this purpose.

      And yes, they were disgusting morons.

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      A bunch of idealistic revolutionaries ove 300 years ago. We just haven’t fixed the problems because people now worship said revolutionaries.

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        Their system is a natural result of their “ideals”: racism, slavery, classism, privilege, patriarchy, theft, genocide, etc.

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          We are talking about people who were somewhat contemporary with the utopian movement, who are considered to be the an ideological ancestor to socialism. Some utopians had slavery backed in. Them being flawed doesnt make them not idealists, name a revolutionary movement that didnt pull shit like early American government or whatever schizo shit the French revolution devolved into before Napoleon.

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        I don’t know that I’d call them idealistic. They were landed nobles who didn’t want to pay the increased taxes levied on them. Which in turn were to pay for the war their government had fought on their behalf to protect them from the native people whose land they had stolen. By exterminating those native people.

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          They were idealistic in that a lot of them subscribed to the ideals of the enlightenment which as a reminder was not a working class movement. Most of the compromises they made were innate issues of their era, but there is still that massive throughline within a lot of it that assumes that those in power are statesmen not demagogues. The problem is that I doubt they would expect the very checks and balances to be used by the demagogues they feared.

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    T mobile already shaping the hell out of my internet. If I download a Netflix episode of a show without my vpn on, it could take like 15 minutes. With my vpn on it takes like 1 minute.

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    The day that Chevron was struck down, a bunch of people here on Lemmy told me it was a good idea to leave these things up to the courts from now on.

    And now here we are.

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      Those people are fucking morons.

      What the fuck does a judge, especially a supreme court judge who doesn’t need to have ANY experience, know about literally anything?

      This shit is absolutely criminal… As it stands now my monopoly ISP REMOVED the 300mbps service and forced me into a 500mbps without my knowledge and increased the price by $40

      Absolutely fucking criminal… All they are doing is throttling speed to give you that 300 so why the fuck can’t it still exist? Oh yeah… Money. They want more money. It’s so fucking gross…

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        The funny thing was that SCOTUS decided that Trump could commit any crimes he wanted if they were an “official presidential act” a few days later. I wish I could remember the usernames of the people who were arguing that with me so I could have asked them what they thought about Chevron after that happened. And now this.

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    Net Neutrality was always strongly supported across both parties from a voter perspective.

    Yet the voters on the republican side continue to vote for people who outright oppose their interests in exchange for those politicians receiving bribes and payments.

    This is a real thing, and it’s very well documented with regards to net neutrality.

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    The supremes are debating if green lights are legal. For now drive anyway you’d like guys and gals. Also you may rape each other while running red lights. The supremes haven’t discussed if they will report you to Cuba or not for that.

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      Ya know now that you mention it, I don’t recall Congress ever explicitly delegating the selection of the “go” and “stop” colors to any government entity. Wonder if you could now use this as a defense against running a red light…

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The current FCC, which has three Democratic and two Republican commissioners, voted in April to bring back net neutrality.

    Broadband providers have since challenged the FCC’s action, which is potentially more vulnerable after the Supreme Court’s recent decision to strike down Chevron deference — a legal doctrine that instructed courts to defer to an agency’s expert decisions except in a very narrow range of circumstances.

    Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Matt Schettenhelm said in a report prior to the court’s ruling that he doesn’t expect the FCC to prevail in court, in large part due to the demise of Chevron.

    A panel of judges for the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals said in an order that a temporary “administrative stay is warranted” while it considers the merits of the broadband providers’ request for a permanent stay.

    In the meantime, the court requested the parties provide additional briefs about the application of National Cable & Telecommunications Association v. Brand X Internet Services to this lawsuit.

    Brand X is a 2005 case in which the Supreme Court ruled that the FCC had lawfully interpreted the Communications Act to exclude cable broadband providers from the definition of “telecommunications services.” At the time, SCOTUS said the lower court should have followed Chevron and deferred to the agency’s interpretation.


    The original article contains 341 words, the summary contains 211 words. Saved 38%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    To use a cooking metaphor:

    Recipe:

    Turn stove to high heat.

    Bring to boil.

    After 4 years reduce to simmer

    Allow to simmer for 3 ½ years.

    Increase heat gradually for 6 months.

    Return to high heat.

    Burn to a crisp.

    Creme brulé

    It’s a fucking coup.

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    Somebody needs to put Sarah McLachlan’s Angel over the American flag and start posting it every time Anti-Chevron is used to break the government.