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      I used to be a fan of kid Rock…

      It was the early 2000’s.

      I’m still down with a lot of music from that time, I’ll still rock Smash mouth, I sympathize with what happened to their lead singer, but kid Rock is entirely self inflicted and instead of the world moving on from him (like smash mouth) they have him on a pedestal. Why should anyone from my generation be on a political tour because of music they made? It pretty much all sucked. They didn’t write any of it themselves… Barely any of them even performed it live. I respect Nickelback “Rockstar” for calling this out.

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      I honestly think Jesus would be a little embarrassed to have people hanging on his every word and ascribing meanings to it in the form of a book report on them every Sunday that he probably didn’t mean. It’s nice to teach us how to treat others and so on, but people loudly assuring others that Jesus loves them; well I have trouble believing Jesus thinks a lot of child predators and rapists myself. And I like what Jesus taught, but I don’t think everyone in the world is salvageable.

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        I’d be curious AF what he thought about all these depictions of him as a white dude with straight, light brown hair

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          I suppose it’s fair to say that some of the early artists who painted him probably never saw a brown Jew, and were handed down the stories of the Bible same as anyone, and just painted what they know. I can’t fault anyone for that, but the fact that the world very much knows better now and continues with this is obnoxious.

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            Close to the truth. The original use for a white Jesus was to express purity and divinity. From there, it just kind of snowballed…

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    Seriously Jesus. You’re a cool guy, and I know your thing is you take in the broken, but your other thing was suppose to be love. Like you said one commandment, love, and that shit is severely lacking.

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      I think the person Jesus actually was loved everyone, but the trouble is conservative people hate gay people and rewrote the texts to say that.

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        Yeah, Jesus, the historical figure was trying to reshape Judaism. He wanted to reform things and he wanted the focus to be on loving your brother. He got killed for it and he knew it would kill him because he was hanging out with the religious leaders.

        Then by a miracle he succeeded because he didnt have any transgressions against the temple and he followed Jewish teachings but was still setup to be crucified in the worst way imaginable.

        Then after that he was co-op’d for other purposes but his message is still true. Believing in christ is believing a man named Jesus lived and he was killed by no fault of his own but for the benefit of others.

        Being a Christian means you understand Christ’s message. Its real easy, love your brother, and you live in a way that reflects that.

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          And for God’s sake stop hating queer people. It’s absolutely against everything Christ teaches and is a made up bit of nonsense.

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              Here is a beautiful poem about that:

              THAT’S what Jesus is, not some holy slobbering uneducated filth yelling about groomers.

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                Another beautiful poem about it, more specifically against everything that religious Karens conservatives stand for:

                If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

                If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

                If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

                Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

                It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

                Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

                1 Corinthians 13

                Looking at the hate and anger that they spew… how can anyone remain convinced that they are about “Christianity” aka love?

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        Well… A lot of their biblical evidence is less a rewrite and more of a translation issue. Take the whole Sodom and Gehmorra story about tje two angels that everyone is so keen to turn into a condemnation of the gays.

        In the OG text the words used to describe the angels were analog to genderless forms of the word “master” and because there were two of them they were always referred to by genderless they/them plural… Which is probably why there were two of them. We are probably supposed to imply the perceived gender of the angels was irrelevant to the tale.

        The first Latin and English translations off of Hebrew however used gendered terms for the two angels that coded them as male. Stuff like “Masters” “Lords” that kind of thing in large part because those societies were respectively fairly misogynistic and not primed to interpret either of the two genderless entities as possibility female coded. Then you see the anti same sex interpretation gain popularity in the case of England and France at the time they were going through a population crash via plague which caused amoung other things criminalization of same sex unions as a threat to sexual replacement of a sharply diminished population. So really we can trace this story being interpreted as God’s condemnation of the gays rather then just regular old rapists around the same time the word “sodomy” came into the lexicon in the 1300’s and the first waves of plague.

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    Why catholics hate queers so much if Jesus was into drag?
    Some questions history can’t answer.

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      Fun fact. Joseph’s coat of many colors is more accurately translated as a coat with long sleeves. That likely references an outfit made from a mother’s bridal gown and passed to the daughter.

      That is: Joseph was an effiminate youngest child who didn’t do men’s work and wore women’s clothing. He was also persecuted by his brothers for it.

      He also ended up being the de facto ruler of Egypt and savior of the Jewish people.

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        As fun as that fanfiction is, there is no textual evidence for the Joseph’s kitonet pasim being made from his mother’s bridal gown (especially as first marriage bridalwear was plain white cloth, something Joseph’s cloak was famous for not being.) Additionally, Joseph’s story is chronologically VERY VERY early in what wasn’t yet even Hebrew culture, so would likely bear zero resemblance to post-Canaan Hebrew culture.

        The reference to ‘long sleeves’ has to do with his brother’s jealousy at the quality and material excess of the garment. Not the source the garment was made from.

        It’s kind of bigoted of you to assume that he was gay just because his brothers picked on him.

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          “Pasim” probably doesn’t mean multicolored. It can also mean long-sleeved or fine-quality, and the only other place it occurs in Hebrew scripture is when it’s referring to Tamar’s robe, where it’s described as the type of clothing worn by virgin daughters.

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            I can see you’re emotionally invested in this because it probably empowers some aspect of your identity, so there’s really no point in continuing.

            Some day you may understand the value of seeing clearly, I encourage you to pursue that.

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              Dude, it’s literally what’s written in the text.

              Just because Donny Osmund wore a multicolored robe and danced on stage doesn’t mean his portrayal was accurate to the text. The New Testament also doesn’t include Charlton Heston trying to give water to Jesus at the crucifiction.

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      It’s easy, gays don’t make babies and the catholic church has run out of countries to convert. The only major growth for their faction is to force more people to have kids.

      So the Catholic Church and the GOP are on the same page of that playbook.

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      Why catholics hate queers so much

      Once you explain to a Catholic that their son/daughter can still deliver grandkids despite being queer, they come around.

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    Does Musk still have a fan base? I haven’t seen anyone speak favourably of him for a very long time.

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    I like how the Amazing Apartheid Boy is trying to do a Trump scowl - and it manages to look just as characteristically fake as Trump’s does.

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    Don’t agree. I’m not Christian, but I would replace Jesus with Steve Jobs. Or just the apple logo.

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      Jobs is a bit too dated a reference. I’d probably replace what’s his face on the top left with someone more relevant, though (or Apple as you suggest, they are indeed annoying).

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        The first three go into the same bag. So the fourth should also fit. Maybe an American flag? Or better yet, an AR15!

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      Kinda felt the same way, but I found a middle ground solution

      spoiler

      From the movie Dogma, Buddy Christ

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    I mean, as a high schooler I enjoyed ba with da bah and whatever else was on that album. I still find some enjoyment in those songs, but I think it’s mostly nostalgia.

    Not sure what my point is. Shame he’s a conservative piece of shit. As an adult I’m not exactly surprised.