• Shadow@lemmy.caEnglish
    80·
    3 months ago

    We’ve definitely noticed an increase in signups at lemmy.ca when that news was announced. Not all active users yet, but a lot of signups

    • Lojcs@lemm.eeEnglish
      803·
      3 months ago

      It’s not the size, it’s the content. Lemmyverse is a lot more serious and honestly, gloomy. Average age seems to be quite higher too. If all you used reddit for was news, politics, technical discussion and porn lemmy might be perfectly fine but there’s way less meme or entertainment content here

      • AstralPath@lemmy.caEnglish
        26·
        3 months ago

        The way I see it is that when I’ve run out of content on Lemmy, that’s my indication to put down my phone and do something else. My buddy framed it in that way during a discussion we had the other day and I think he hit the nail on the head.

        • Lojcs@lemm.eeEnglish
          6·
          3 months ago

          If I only browsed my subscribed feed that’d maybe amount to to 5-10 minutes of stuff a day. On the other hand if I open the all feed there’s an endless steam of the stuff I mentioned above. As I said, what’s lacking isn’t volume it’s the content of the volume

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        17·
        3 months ago

        I imagine this is controversial, but I appreciate that there’s less entertainment here. I’ve already had more decent discussions here in the last 6 months, even if I disagreed strongly with the other person, than I have on Reddit since the 3rd party app debacle.

        The constant churn of what some people consider entertaining, or the never-ending effort in attempts to be the entertaining and flippant comment that gets upvotes even on serious subjects really just gets old. I don’t mean to say people shouldn’t have a sense of humor, but when everything starts to revolve around cheap quips and retreads of the same old comments, that’s stagnation. Any serious sub big enough to damp that behavior also tends to be more exclusive of outside opinion.

        So I guess I’m happy with news, politics, tech, and porn - though I have to admit I blocked out a crapton of the porn when Lemmy was new because it was overwhelming so I don’t see much of that in /all anymore.

        • subtext@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          3 months ago

          Tbh it definitely helps with my phone addiction. The content starts to run out and I can just put down my phone.

      • madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        121·
        3 months ago

        The gloomyness is definitely a problem. Progressives are usually better at empathy so they feel everyone’s pain. And if you are looking for it you’ll find shit and pain all day long.

        We need more positive posts on here.

        • Lojcs@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          I don’t mean discussion about entertainment, I mean communities that entertain you like damnthatsinteresting, unexpected, nextfuckinglevel etc. And considering how much of their content is in video form, I don’t think they can viably exist in lemmy.

          memes are everywhere

          Maybe generic and reposted memes are, but nothing of the sort of niche meme communities that constantly popped up in reddit

        • cheddar@programming.devEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          If anything, this only proves their point: there is less of everything. Compare this amount of content a similar sub on reddit.

          • Blaze (he/him)@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
            11·
            3 months ago

            Be the change you want to see. Also I noticed that Lemmy is less active on weekends, which is probably healthier

      • whoareu@lemmy.caEnglish
        18·
        3 months ago

        I hope you are doing a good job of converting more Redditors to Lemmy :D

        • MelonYellow@lemmy.caEnglish
          10·
          3 months ago

          He totally is! I’ve noticed Blaze’s posts a bunch -well assuming he goes by the same name lol. He’s doing a great job at shepherding and getting the info out there. @Blaze@sopuli.xyz

          Also I took a peek at some of threads discussing the paywalls and noticed there seems to be increased awareness about Lemmy, dare I say interest😆

        • Beaver@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Spez is a funny enemy as he is slowly breaking furniture while demanding loyalty in the fortress.

  • Sesudesu@lemmy.worldEnglish
    46·
    3 months ago

    I’m now here due to the Reddit news. I’m still browsing both, but I look forward to changing over.

  • pyre@lemmy.worldEnglish
    24·
    3 months ago

    every time spez opens his mouth a bunch of people go “hmm let me see if there’s something else”

  • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
    274·
    3 months ago

    Every time reddit announces something dumb I open Lemmy again. I’d rather be here on principle but the content/users just aren’t here yet. Where are the cross post bots?

    • Elevator7009@kbin.run
      35·
      3 months ago

      The content/users aren’t here so I’m stubbornly trying to post content and comment whenever I can.

      Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.

      Although I understand it’s not for everyone, I encourage you to help out with that ;-;

      • Ashtear@lemm.eeEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        I was never much of an /r/all user, it’s always been niche communities for me. I feel like almost all of my niches have content here now (if not quite as much engagement as I’d like). !retrogaming@lemmy.world in particular has exploded with activity lately and arguably can now serve as a full replacement for its subreddit counterpart.

        Thing is, when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it’s always “why?” and if I make it that far, “how?” With the how, I’ve been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it’s still not as smooth as it could be. Eyes glaze over when anyone starts asking me about how the Fediverse in general works.

        The why is harder. I don’t know how much user bleed-over niche Reddit got from /r/all users but I’m guessing it wasn’t a trivial amount. I’m sure a lot of Reddit’s growth was owed to AMAs, so it’s possible Lemmy might need something flashy to draw in users who will then filter into communities waiting for them. Some sort of content unique to the platform. I do think before we get there we need a friendlier way to help new people find communities they may have interest in.

        • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it’s always “why?” and if I make it that far, “how?” With the how, I’ve been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it’s still not as smooth as it could be.

          You don’t have to bother with that. Just send them to a single instance to sign up. Stable, general-purpose instances like lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, or lemmy.zip are good recommendations. You don’t really need to understand the details of how federation works to start using Lemmy. They can learn as they go.

      • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        Thanks for your service. I’m more of a lurker, though I tend to comment more here than on Reddit, and I have so many other things filling my life that I have to tend to. This is just a distraction before bed or filling a dull moment.

      • CMLVI@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        That’s what I’m doing. I got 2 subs that I frequented on Reddit I’m running, one is a sports one with discussions for the events, and it’s literally just me putting commentary into it. But that’s what I loved about the Reddit sports subs, so I’ll at least have it for when people come here.

        • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          Thank you for your service. I have little interest in sports, but love to see Lemmy growth in general. We need a diversity of communities here, not just Linux memes :)

    • CMahaff@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      3 months ago

      Out of curiosity, what content are you looking for? Discovery on Lemmy can be a problem, but sometimes the communities are there and even active, just buried.

      But may I also suggest searching by Top Day/12-hour/6-hour to see the most active posts. Lemmy’s scaled algorithm still doesn’t get it quite right IMO.

      • ericjmorey@discuss.onlineEnglish
        6·
        3 months ago

        Scaled is intentionally promoting communities with fewer subscribers. It’s intentionally demoting the most active posts bt demoting any posts from the communities with more subscribers.

        • Die4Ever@programming.devEnglish
          7·
          3 months ago

          Scaled is amazing for the Subscribed feed, because I’m (obviously) interested in the small communities that I’m subscribed to. But it’s not quite the same when browsing All or Local. Usually I do stick to Subscribed though.

            • Die4Ever@programming.devEnglish
              3·
              3 months ago

              I also like the New Comments sort (forums style), I have a widget on my phone’s home screen showing Subscribed - New Comments

      • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Just… content. I open my Lemmy app once and I’ve seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days. I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.

        • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          3 months ago

          Just… content.

          I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.

          If all you want is “content” you can browse Lemmy by /all, sort by new, and also scroll for hours. That isn’t how I use Lemmy (or Reddit) though, and it’s not how I would recommend using it.

          I open my Lemmy app once and I’ve seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days.

          I almost exclusively browse by subscribed. When I first came to Lemmy, I kept subscribing to communities until I had too much content in my subscribed feed to keep up with. Over time, I’ve gradually unsubscribed to communities I’m only tangentially interested in, as communities for my main interests have grown.

          Do you think an approach like this would work for you?

          • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            No. I already sort by all, and new is generally too low quality and frankly still too slow. I also switch to all on Reddit once I’ve skimmed over the first couple pages of my feed

      • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
        51·
        3 months ago

        I don’t have the time. This just fills the empty gaps in my day, before bed winding down

        • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
          42·
          3 months ago

          Isn’t that how it always goes. Everyone wants the end result, but nobody wants to do the work.

          • tehmics@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            3 months ago

            Yep. Weirdly, I didn’t do any work to populate reddit either. It’s almost like that would be impractical and unrealistic for an end user to do.

            • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              21·
              3 months ago

              It’s only impractical for a small userbase. As the userbase grows, the amount of posts each user needs to contribute in order to maintain an active community drops to a realistic level.

  • wiki_me@lemmy.mlEnglish
    232·
    3 months ago

    It is lower from where it was in june (48.472) and the data seem to indicate a negative trajectory , also lemmy donations seem to be the lowest i remember them to be.

    So i would not get too confident, the project IMO needs to focus on highly requested killer features. My impression they focusing too much on technical issues that don’t seem to be really important in a way that reminds me of the infamous The CADT Model rant of Jamie Zawinski. Do we really need to do a UI rewrite?

    • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      3 months ago

      The CADT model…that was a short but fun read. I have definitely encountered that model many times in the various jobs.

      Years ago, when I was a developer, I loved fixing bugs in other people’s code. I felt like I learned a lot from that, and I got a sense of accomplishment out of it. It made users happy, it made my boss happy, and the puzzle solving aspect of it was fun. I was what they called a “maintenance programmer” which was something of an insult, but I didn’t mind.

      Unfortunately most developers I know hate everyone else’s code, think others’ code is “garbage” (every single time) and they definitely have a lot more fun building something from scratch than doing bug fixes. They even hate their own code once it’s a few months old. Always chasing for the perfect architecture, etc. Which is unfortunate, there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.

      • uis@lemm.eeEnglish
        7·
        3 months ago

        TF2 community greatly values efforts of The Janitor - sole full-time developer, fixing old bugs in TF2.

      • ericjmorey@discuss.onlineEnglish
        6·
        3 months ago

        there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.

        Value created doesn’t translate to value extracted and VCs and managers and marketers and the general public fork over more money in exchange for new shiny than old, reliable, maintained. There are few exceptions.

        • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          3 months ago

          True, but I’ve also worked at many places where they hang on to old software systems for years or even decades (think banking, mainframes). Because they “it works, and if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”.

      • wiki_me@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        3 months ago

        probably the best (or least worst) indication of that is sorting issues by “thumbs up” on github, see lemmy and lemmy-ui. I think having a survey among donors (like godot had on patreon) is a better indicator.

    • Die4Ever@programming.devEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      I was so confused when I heard about lemmy-ui-leptos, it really sounds like a waste of time to me 🤷‍♂️

      I’m sure everyone has a different opinion, but I think the most important new feature should be the plugin system. It seems like the only way to scale up the number of contributors and support a variety of languages.

      https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4695

  • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2611·
    3 months ago

    Probably due to Reddit fuckary. Between power-hungry, ban-happy mods and Reddit talking about possibly charging for select subs, I definitely bailed and came here.

    Two days old today, baaabbby!!

    Doing my part tho! I’ve created 5 communities and have posted over 100 times in the last two days. :)

  • Yambu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    151·
    3 months ago

    I got banned from reddit for criticizing the mods of a popular subreddit. Perm-ban on a white vest account for saying the mods are crybabies as they once again complained about having to mod the sub.

    Fuck reddit. Fuck spez.

    • Asudox@lemmings.worldEnglish
      9·
      3 months ago

      I agree. I came here for two reasons:

      • Reddit is proprietary
      • Shit mods
      • API paid
      • Karma system

      Though I still do crave the niche communities from Reddit and I might occassionally visit Reddit once in a while on my browser for them, otherwise the ads are pretty unbearable for me. The UI is also so fucking bloated. Fuck spez

    • biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      I pretty much got permabanned for ban evasion, even though I was on an alt that has no reference to the others other than being on the same IP, my other accounts got banned simultaneously.

      • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Same thing happened to me. 7-day ban evasion suspension instantly into a perma on three accounts at once all because a single subreddit mod threw a fit when I accidentally posted there again off r/all on an alt.

        They were all made with the same email address so I could have easily made another alt by now and kept posting but I’ve taken it as an opportunity to do a Reddit detox

  • ericjmorey@discuss.onlineEnglish
    123·
    3 months ago

    Active accounts is not active users. We shouldn’t lie to ourselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if the number of active users is half of the active account number.

      • ericjmorey@discuss.onlineEnglish
        52·
        3 months ago

        No. I think that there are enough users with multiple accounts including bots that it wouldn’t surprise me if the ratio of active users to active accounts is 1:2.

    • iso@lemy.lolEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      More realistic than mainstream social media platforms. On Lemmy, the number of active users is measured by posts, comments and votes.

      • ericjmorey@discuss.onlineEnglish
        6·
        3 months ago

        I think that’s a mistake, but also the point is that saying users when you mean accounts is lying to yourself. Users here have multiple accounts, I have 7.

        • iso@lemy.lolEnglish
          4·
          3 months ago

          Yes, almost almost all of us have more than one account, but not everyone uses more than one account at the same time. I think these numbers are correct. There should be a margin of deviation of at most 10%.

          • ericjmorey@discuss.onlineEnglish
            4·
            3 months ago

            Over 6 months and over a month, I think most users with multiple accounts use their accounts at least once to post, comment, or vote. So it wouldn’t surprise me if active users to active accounts was 1:2